MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 22

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,826]

18 minutes ago, Tractor said:

Cannot wait to see Hogan, Weideman and Watts all in the same forward line. 

Will be a glimpse of hopefully an imposing, scary forward line that will be a powerhouse in the years to come.

Agreed, but whilst I was pretty impressed with what he did against Hawthorn, I'd rather see Weid put on a bit of meat after another good preseason before we throw him in the deep end.

I'm beginning to agree with some others on this forum that the Roos talk of making early draft picks earn their spot and bringing them in when they are ready has been almost just talk at times.

Edited August 20, 2016 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

12 hours ago, P-man said:

Pleasantly surprised by the changes. Michie is better than the no hoper he gets painted as on here, and ANB has smashed the door down. Good luck to both.

i would've kept Pedo personally but if Weed is fit then he has showed he's capable.

Ditto this post. 

 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,826]

12 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Only thing I can recall is where was running into an open goal and missed it. Maybe that was selfish coz he could have offloaded it? But if he'd kicked it, all would be forgiven.

I reckon it's got nothing to do with selfish acts, etc, and more to do with Pedo not being the future.

The coaches want to find out more about what is our best lineup and they're not going to be distracted by the sudden possibility of making the 8. They've done it all year and it's working. Weed's first game against the reigned champs on top of the ladder! Why change now and retreat into our shells?

If they'd stuck to a rigid idea of our "best 22" all year we'd still be playing Dunn and Garland and wouldn't have uncovered Hunt OMac or Frost.

I do recall that missed goal and agree it was more a clanger than selfish - most players should have gobbled that one up every day of the week.  I hardly think it is worth dropping a player over.

I get that there is a long term agenda at play too, but I wouldn't call the opportunity to play finals (whatever the slim chances) a distraction.  I'd call it what the team should be playing for.  With only two games remaining, I think the long term benefits of developing a few players is overshadowed by the developments available to the whole team of gaining finals experience and we should be picking our best/in form side to win both remaining games.

[sue 9,106]

2 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I do recall that missed goal and agree it was more a clanger than selfish - most players should have gobbled that one up every day of the week.  I hardly think it is worth dropping a player over.

I get that there is a long term agenda at play too, but I wouldn't call the opportunity to play finals (whatever the slim chances) a distraction.  I'd call it what the team should be playing for.  With only two games remaining, I think the long term benefits of developing a few players is overshadowed by the developments available to the whole team of gaining finals experience and we should be picking our best/in form side to win both remaining games.

While that might be true, the evidence is that they aren't focussed on finals. Especially when you consider that it is likely Roos would kill to get us into the finals to cement his place as a footy miracle worker. Whereas getting a bit more knowledge for 2017 does little for his reputation (public reputation at least).

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,826]

1 minute ago, sue said:

While that might be true, the evidence is that they aren't focussed on finals. Especially when you consider that it is likely Roos would kill to get us into the finals to cement his place as a footy miracle worker. Whereas getting a bit more knowledge for 2017 does little for his reputation (public reputation at least).

Not quite sure where you are going with this, as I don't see Roos as "killing" for the sake of his reputation - I think he has now done enough to establish that regardless, although finals would be nice icing on the cake for that.

Along similar lines though, one thing this year will do though is raise expectations put a lot of pressure on Goodwin and the players to continue the rise next year.  I am hoping that transition is as smooth as the club has been aiming for.

[Bells 155]

Maybe they are resting Pedo - thinking they will need him more vs Geelong

 

[sue 9,106]

51 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Not quite sure where you are going with this, as I don't see Roos as "killing" for the sake of his reputation - I think he has now done enough to establish that regardless, although finals would be nice icing on the cake for that.

Along similar lines though, one thing this year will do though is raise expectations put a lot of pressure on Goodwin and the players to continue the rise next year.  I am hoping that transition is as smooth as the club has been aiming for.

I'm implying that Roos may have put his own 'glory' second to building the team for the future.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Danger Danger Danger, this game has danger written all over it. We should smash them but lets hope they are not thinking more about the Geelong game. We saw today what happens when you are planning on playing the USA and forget about beating Serbia first.

[DemonOX 8,791]

Wish we were bloody playing today. 

Never thought I would be saying that tbh. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

1 minute ago, Mr Steve said:

Danger Danger Danger, this game has danger written all over it. We should smash them but lets hope they are not thinking more about the Geelong game. We saw today what happens when you are planning on playing the USA and forget about beating Serbia first.

Oh no ... please tell me Serbia don't play Aussie Rules!

[Satyriconhome 10,878]

3 hours ago, Mr Steve said:

Danger Danger Danger, this game has danger written all over it. We should smash them but lets hope they are not thinking more about the Geelong game. We saw today what happens when you are planning on playing the USA and forget about beating Serbia first.

Serbia were in the semis for a reason, they just outplayed the Boomers, with the new breed we have and after the Essendon game, I doubt we would have any mindset apart from having a real crack against Carlton

[Mr Steve 3,820]

2 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Serbia were in the semis for a reason, they just outplayed the Boomers, with the new breed we have and after the Essendon game, I doubt we would have any mindset apart from having a real crack against Carlton

Lost to both Essendon and carlton last year. I hope they have learnt a lesson.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

29 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Serbia were in the semis for a reason, they just outplayed the Boomers, with the new breed we have and after the Essendon game, I doubt we would have any mindset apart from having a real crack against Carlton

Its a cliche, but "We're just taking it one week at a time" is the only way to succeed ...

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

38 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

Lost to both Essendon and carlton last year. I hope they have learnt a lesson.

Serbia? They must be sh!t at AFL. Just as well they're good at basketball.

[Chook 15,013]

4 hours ago, Ted Fidge said:

Oh no ... please tell me Serbia don't play Aussie Rules!

Novak Djokovic would make a hell of a tall midfielder.

[The Sailing Demon 379]

After having a day or so to look at the changes and mull it over, I am happy with them.

Pedo out, I love Pedo, rated him for the last 2 years, but I think this could be a master stroke from the selection board...
Having Pedo out frees up CHF and a big body around the square therefore Hogan can go from FF to CHF and patrol the square enforcing himself around the ground.
To me this looks like it will leave Weideman and Watts free to use their clean hands and fluid kicking at FF/FP without over crowding the forward line.
Meanwhile as we will have Hogan up the grouns we will really be stretching their defence when we get on the reboud with the Carlton players struggling to figure out who to man up on.
Garlett out for injury and bringing ANB in as a quick FP will be good too, ANB has been playing good and sems to be playing with confidence which will be great coming into the game tomorrow.
Harmes (Love him) has been plagued by poor descisions and inefficiency along half back which is the worst place to be poor in your decision making so rewarding Michie with his rich vein of VFL form would be a good decision. (I am well aware that this is Michies last roll of the dice when it comes to playing in red and blue also)

If we can come out and attack the game as we did in the first half against the Power and the entire game against the Hawks we will run off as 10+ goal winners.
I saw what we were capable of doing when I travelled to the Gold Coast mid way through the year when we blew them away in a single quarter and I am comfortable with the fact that we are strong enough as a team to annihalate a team in 2 quarters of footy (Fremantle, Port, GCS) let alone a genuine 4 quarter effort.

I hope the coaching staff and the senior players step up this week and understand that complacency in a week like this will undo ALL the seasons work and will be absolutley humiliating.

The entire AFL is behind us, Good players are mentioning that their destination club is Melbourne, we are winning races for highly rated class B rookies, and talking about genuine finals chances in round 22, I have done nothing but read positive articles and read positive comments about the demons for the last fortnight.
Tomorrow is the most important game of the season to me and the playing group should know this too.

I am excited, I am scared, I am anxious, I am happy.
 

[old dee 23,791]

Dees will win this by 6+

we are seriously better than the Blues.

[jacey 333]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Dees will win this by 6+

we are seriously better than the Blues.

We need to go for the throat from the start and keep it there. 

No excuses. 

Blues are tired, not that strong and nothing to play for.

12 goal win minimum.

[Undeeterred 3,124]

On 8/19/2016 at 6:07 PM, faultydet said:

Reckon Pedo is stiff.

It's possible that its because I haven't seen anything other than the highlights though.

Did he do something wrong, or are we just keen to see more of Weeds?

Oops.

[faultydet 7,594]

Just now, Undeeterred said:

Oops.

haaaaaaaaaa.

 

Didn't even realise my own boo boo.

 

Well spotted Un

[Undeeterred 3,124]

On 8/19/2016 at 7:38 PM, ProDee said:

We have been quite good, but also had our worst loss for the year in the wet (Sydney).

Yep, fair cop.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,861]

We better beat Carlton tomorrow, I only know the names of four of their players. 

[Undeeterred 3,124]

13 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Pedersen was dropped for selfish acts and pulling out of contests.

My personal view only, after tearing my hair out multiple times over his efforts last week.

He adds value to the side, but I don't think he'll be around a lot longer because he doesn't play the "right way."

Are you serious? Sorry, were you watching?

You're usually ok, but this is complete rot.

[Vineytime 847]

9 hours ago, Bells said:

Maybe they are resting Pedo - thinking they will need him more vs Geelong

 

Pedo is not popular amongst the playing group, would be surprised if he is on the list next yr...

[Undeeterred 3,124]

11 minutes ago, faultydet said:

haaaaaaaaaa.

 

Didn't even realise my own boo boo.

 

Well spotted Un

Took me 5 or 6 beers. Why are we both on here at 9.30 on a Saturday night anyway?