2016 Best & Fairest: Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Memorial Trophy (merged thread)

[old dee 23,592]

4 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I am a Melbourne supporter and went to school in Collingwood.  Not many of those around  I bet. 

Could you fight adc?

[Sir Why You Little 36,779]

24 minutes ago, Spirit of 26 said:

I consider it a badge of honour to be called a silver-tailed [censored].

Now before you [censored] off, pass me the port. And didn't that no. 7 young chappy do well at the B&F. Go Dees.

Yes who wants to sit with the unwashed swill...

Go Demons

[daisycutter 29,498]

1 hour ago, Grapeviney said:

 .. so you spend your days 'regularly' driving past an all-girls school?

... ummmm ...

you got me mr grape

still, where i live it is hard to avoid driving past there (that's my excuse anyway) 

[daisycutter 29,498]

15 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I am a Melbourne supporter and went to school in Collingwood.  Not many of those around  I bet. 

what, schools in collingwood? that would make sense.

[John Crow Batty 8,832]

8 minutes ago, old dee said:

Could you fight adc?

Yes and at least a minor scuffle a week and couple of bigger fights per month on average. 

[bjDee 1,249]

4 hours ago, btdemon said:

Being a product of the state school system I find this sort of comment on here to be very elitist....

Please don't talk about Collingwood supporters and your private school background in the same paragraph. Now wonder people label Demon supporters as silver-tailed wankers. You don't do us any favours.

I can see why you interpreted that but I didn't go to a private school mate, and I've sent my 3 kids to a mixture of private and public.

It was a cheap and admittedly unedifying comment about the typical Pies fans, not about the school system.

Nor did I mean to imply Dees fans have private school backgrounds.  Plenty of us don't, probably the great majority. But we can at least have a civil conversation about it. 

[DeeZone 9,257]

Just watched the Jayden Hunt interview again when receiving his "Best Young Player" award, he mentioned that Jack Grimes and several coaches got into his ear half way through 2015 and advised him that he better show them (FD) what he can produce if he wanted to stay on the List, a real wake up call also thanked BM for taking him under his wing and turning him into a student of the game. So thanks Jack, Coaches, BM and particularly Jayden for listening and taking it on board because we now have another young star on our list. He is a very confidant and capable young man. Go DEE's!!!

PS( I am another public school supporter who spent a lot of my working life taking every opportunity that I could to further educate myself)

[btdemon 482]

2 hours ago, bjDee said:

I can see why you interpreted that but I didn't go to a private school mate, and I've sent my 3 kids to a mixture of private and public.

It was a cheap and admittedly unedifying comment about the typical Pies fans, not about the school system.

Nor did I mean to imply Dees fans have private school backgrounds.  Plenty of us don't, probably the great majority. But we can at least have a civil conversation about it. 

I was probably a bit over sensitive but I do occasionally see some very snobbish attitudes on DL and it gets me going. It points to the class and wealth divides in this country and I come over all sanctimonious.

[Whispering_Jack 29,440]

The final result:-

2016 Melbourne best and fairest results 

1. Jack Viney (407 votes) – Keith ‘Bluey’ Truscott Memorial Trophy
2. Nathan Jones (399) – Sid Anderson Memorial Trophy
3. Max Gawn (374) – Ron Barassi Senior Memorial Trophy
4. Dom Tyson (357) – Ivor Warne Smith Memorial Trophy
5. Jack Watts (308) – Dick Taylor Memorial Trophy
6. Tom McDonald (306)
7. Bernie Vince (287)
8. Jesse Hogan (261)
9. Neville Jetta (260)
10. Dean Kent (235)
11. Jayden Hunt (230)
12. Christian Petracca (171)
13. Oscar McDonald (159)
14. Josh Wagner (158)
15. Jeff Garlett (152)
16. Billy Stretch (149)
17. Tomas Bugg (148)
18. Aaron vandenBerg (128)
19. James Harmes (127) Clayton Oliver (127)
21. Ben Kennedy (122)
22. Sam Frost (110)
23. Angus Brayshaw (101)
Matt Jones (80)
24. Christian Salem (77)
25. Heritier Lumumba (65)
26. Cam Pedersen (48)
27. Chris Dawes (30)
28. Viv Michie (23)
29. Colin Garland Alex Neal-Bullen (17)
30. Jack Grimes Sam Weideman (12)
31. Ben Newton Mitch White (11)
33. Lynden Dunn (7)
34. Jack Trengove (6)

Did not play in 2016: Liam Hulett Jay Kennedy-Harris Max King Mitchell King Joel Smith Jake Spencer Dean Terlich 

[Earl Hood 6,067]

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The final result:-

2016 Melbourne best and fairest results 

1. Jack Viney (407 votes) – Keith ‘Bluey’ Truscott Memorial Trophy
2. Nathan Jones (399) – Sid Anderson Memorial Trophy
3. Max Gawn (374) – Ron Barassi Senior Memorial Trophy
4. Dom Tyson (357) – Ivor Warne Smith Memorial Trophy
5. Jack Watts (308) – Dick Taylor Memorial Trophy
6. Tom McDonald (306)
7. Bernie Vince (287)
8. Jesse Hogan (261)
9. Neville Jetta (260)
10. Dean Kent (235)
11. Jayden Hunt (230)
12. Christian Petracca (171)
13. Oscar McDonald (159)
14. Josh Wagner (158)
15. Jeff Garlett (152)
16. Billy Stretch (149)
17. Tomas Bugg (148)
18. Aaron vandenBerg (128)
19. James Harmes (127) Clayton Oliver (127)
21. Ben Kennedy (122)
22. Sam Frost (110)
23. Angus Brayshaw (101)
Matt Jones (80)
24. Christian Salem (77)
25. Heritier Lumumba (65)
26. Cam Pedersen (48)
27. Chris Dawes (30)
28. Viv Michie (23)
29. Colin Garland Alex Neal-Bullen (17)
30. Jack Grimes Sam Weideman (12)
31. Ben Newton Mitch White (11)
33. Lynden Dunn (7)
34. Jack Trengove (6)

Did not play in 2016: Liam Hulett Jay Kennedy-Harris Max King Mitchell King Joel Smith Jake Spencer Dean Terlich 

It just struck me as odd that there is not a Norm Smith trophy for something! What more could an individual do for one club? 

Edited September 17, 2016 by Earl Hood

[Mickey 4,581]

32 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

It just struck me as odd that there is not a Norm Smith trophy for something! What more could an individual do for one club? 

The coaches award is I think

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,664]

18 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

It just struck me as odd that there is not a Norm Smith trophy for something! What more could an individual do for one club? 

Similarly, Ron Barassi junior. I appreciate that RDB is still with us, but that shouldn't prevent us being creative enough to identify an appropriate award in his honour. If there is already something awarded in his name, then I'd like to know what it is.

PS: Ditto Robert Flower

 

[Whispering_Jack 29,440]

On 17 September 2016 at 6:44 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

The final result:-

2016 Melbourne best and fairest results 

1. Jack Viney (407 votes) – Keith ‘Bluey’ Truscott Memorial Trophy
2. Nathan Jones (399) – Sid Anderson Memorial Trophy
3. Max Gawn (374) – Ron Barassi Senior Memorial Trophy
4. Dom Tyson (357) – Ivor Warne Smith Memorial Trophy
5. Jack Watts (308) – Dick Taylor Memorial Trophy
6. Tom McDonald (306)
7. Bernie Vince (287)
8. Jesse Hogan (261)
9. Neville Jetta (260)
10. Dean Kent (235)

I found these results from 2011 which, among other things, really brings home to me that our list at the time was quite ordinary, and how things have progressed since then. I hope that a further look back in five year's time doesn't reflect the same disappointment that I have in how things pan out:-

2011 Melbourne best and fairest results 

1 - Brent Moloney (252 votes)
2 - Jared Rivers (221)
3 - James Frawley (193)
4 - Nathan Jones (186)
5 - Jack Trengove (184)
6 - Colin Garland (171)
7 - Mark Jamar (158)
8 - Stefan Martin (153)
9 - Jordie McKenzie Jack Watts (145)
11 - Colin Sylvia (143)
12 - Brad Green (132)
13 - Liam Jurrah (121)
14 - Clint Bartram (119)
15 - Jordan Gysberts (103)
16 - Ricky Petterd (102)
17 - Jamie Bennell (91)
18 - Jeremy Howe (85)
19 - Rohan Bail (76)
20 - Tom Scully (66)
21 - Joel Macdonald (63)
22 - Jack Grimes (53)
23 - Austin Wonaeamirri (46)
24 - Lynden Dunn (45)
25 - James Strauss (44)
26 - Aaron Davey (43)
27 - Luke Tapscott (40)
28 - Neville Jetta (39)
29 - Matthew Warnock (34) Sam Blease (34)
31 - Addam Maric (32)
32 - Daniel Nicholson (31)
33 - Matthew Bate (28)
34 - Cale Morton (26)
35 - Tom McDonald (18)
36 - Michael Evans (16)
37 - Max Gawn (5)
38 - Michael Newton (4)
39 - Jack Fitzpatrick (0) Tom McNamara (0)

Did not play in 2011: Robert Campbell, Lucas Cook, Troy Davis, Cameron Johnston, Kelvin Lawrence, Jake Spencer 

[Gator 17,261]

23 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I found these results from 2011 which, among other things, really brings home to me that our list at the time was quite ordinary, and how things have progressed since then. I hope that a further look back in five year's time doesn't reflect the same disappointment that I have in how things pan out:-

2011 Melbourne best and fairest results 

1 - Brent Moloney (252 votes)
2 - Jared Rivers (221)
3 - James Frawley (193)
4 - Nathan Jones (186)
5 - Jack Trengove (184)
6 - Colin Garland (171)
7 - Mark Jamar (158)
8 - Stefan Martin (153)
9 - Jordie McKenzie Jack Watts (145)
11 - Colin Sylvia (143)
12 - Brad Green (132)
13 - Liam Jurrah (121)
14 - Clint Bartram (119)
15 - Jordan Gysberts (103)
16 - Ricky Petterd (102)
17 - Jamie Bennell (91)
18 - Jeremy Howe (85)
19 - Rohan Bail (76)
20 - Tom Scully (66)
21 - Joel Macdonald (63)
22 - Jack Grimes (53)
23 - Austin Wonaeamirri (46)
24 - Lynden Dunn (45)
25 - James Strauss (44)
26 - Aaron Davey (43)
27 - Luke Tapscott (40)
28 - Neville Jetta (39)
29 - Matthew Warnock (34) Sam Blease (34)
31 - Addam Maric (32)
32 - Daniel Nicholson (31)
33 - Matthew Bate (28)
34 - Cale Morton (26)
35 - Tom McDonald (18)
36 - Michael Evans (16)
37 - Max Gawn (5)
38 - Michael Newton (4)
39 - Jack Fitzpatrick (0) Tom McNamara (0)

Did not play in 2011: Robert Campbell, Lucas Cook, Troy Davis, Cameron Johnston, Kelvin Lawrence, Jake Spencer 

If Oliver, Brayshaw, Petracca, Tyson, Salem, Weideman, Hogan, McDonald (s), Viney, and Gawn are not (in the main) staples in our top 10 in 5 years time then the disappointment will match or exceed previous ones.

I don't expect it to be the case.

[Demon Jack 6,805]

On 20/09/2016 at 7:37 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

I found these results from 2011 which, among other things, really brings home to me that our list at the time was quite ordinary, and how things have progressed since then. I hope that a further look back in five year's time doesn't reflect the same disappointment that I have in how things pan out:-

2011 Melbourne best and fairest results 

1 - Brent Moloney (252 votes)
2 - Jared Rivers (221)
3 - James Frawley (193)
4 - Nathan Jones (186)
5 - Jack Trengove (184)
6 - Colin Garland (171)
7 - Mark Jamar (158)
8 - Stefan Martin (153)
9 - Jordie McKenzie Jack Watts (145)
11 - Colin Sylvia (143)
12 - Brad Green (132)
13 - Liam Jurrah (121)
14 - Clint Bartram (119)
15 - Jordan Gysberts (103)
16 - Ricky Petterd (102)
17 - Jamie Bennell (91)
18 - Jeremy Howe (85)
19 - Rohan Bail (76)
20 - Tom Scully (66)
21 - Joel Macdonald (63)
22 - Jack Grimes (53)
23 - Austin Wonaeamirri (46)
24 - Lynden Dunn (45)
25 - James Strauss (44)
26 - Aaron Davey (43)
27 - Luke Tapscott (40)
28 - Neville Jetta (39)
29 - Matthew Warnock (34) Sam Blease (34)
31 - Addam Maric (32)
32 - Daniel Nicholson (31)
33 - Matthew Bate (28)
34 - Cale Morton (26)
35 - Tom McDonald (18)
36 - Michael Evans (16)
37 - Max Gawn (5)
38 - Michael Newton (4)
39 - Jack Fitzpatrick (0) Tom McNamara (0)

Did not play in 2011: Robert Campbell, Lucas Cook, Troy Davis, Cameron Johnston, Kelvin Lawrence, Jake Spencer 

Only four players in the top twenty are still on our list today. Talk about a list turnover.