Daw, Vickery or Holmes?

[Left-Field 71]

20 hours ago, Josh said:

Am I the only one who sees something in Vickery?

 

Maybe it's the Foward/Ruck (in that order) I'm in love with

My Dad does, says McCartney could turn any of those 3 into a decent footballer but sees the most in Vickery. Not that I agree with him though.

[Biffen 12,812]

We need pace and aerial ability .(with some disposal skill)

I'm not sure we will be recruiting anymore big clumsy dudes.

[thesleepinggiant 160]

It could be worse and add Jack Fitzpatrick to this list.

We have enough of these type players HOWEVER..... Tyrone Vickery isnt as bad as most people think including me sometimes. 

Hes the 1 out of the lot and he is a footballer. I can guarantee that by next season the way Goodwin will have the side he wants our our skill delivery into the 50 will be absolutely elite and hence this is where Tyrone comes into the equation. Fresh start and remember he can play, good contested mark but combined with Petracca bullets as just 1 example we could make him look good

But yes we dont need him aswelll 

[KingDingAling 3,737]

On 8/4/2016 at 3:10 AM, Petraccattack said:

Jake Spencer is better than all three of them.  In fact I reckon the Spencil is a bit underrated.

Without hesitation I would take Spencer ahead of the other three.

Daw is still just a raw athlete, and I would be surprised if it didn't stay that way.

Vickery - I would question whether he is mentally up to playing top level sport.

Holmes is largely unproven, but probably the most promising of the three. Still going to take another couple of years though.

Spencer on the other hand is a ready to go ruck man. Another pre-season under his belt against Gawn, and he will be a more than capable back up ruck man.

Ideally though, the club should be trying to land a forward/ruck, in the mould of Peter Wright, Rory Lobb, or even Nathan Vardy.

 

[Satyriconhome 10,339]

9 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Without hesitation I would take Spencer ahead of the other three.

Daw is still just a raw athlete, and I would be surprised if it didn't stay that way.

Vickery - I would question whether he is mentally up to playing top level sport.

Holmes is largely unproven, but probably the most promising of the three. Still going to take another couple of years though.

Spencer on the other hand is a ready to go ruck man. Another pre-season under his belt against Gawn, and he will be a more than capable back up ruck man.

Ideally though, the club should be trying to land a forward/ruck, in the mould of Peter Wright, Rory Lobb, or even Nathan Vardy.

 

We have one in Max King if he could just get his [censored] together, not sure whether he will survive this year though

 

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Quoting issues.....

[Return to Glory 8,213]

On ‎3‎/‎08‎/‎2016 at 9:15 PM, chook fowler said:

Are we talking Long John Holmes?

To his credit, Holmes is hard at it.

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3 hours ago, Dante said:

I'll give you a clue, Grimes has captained an AFL club and Daw is a reserve grade player at best.

 

Wow.

[Biffen 12,812]

3 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

To his credit, Holmes is hard at it.

He always has a few inches on the others.

I'm sure he can forge a long career.

[Josh 1,420]

13 minutes ago, Biffen said:

He always has a few inches on the others.

I'm sure he can forge a long career.

He'd be pretty stiff not to get picked up. 

[chook fowler 19,248]

1 hour ago, Return to Glory said:

To his credit, Holmes is hard at it.

Coming along well

[picket fence 16,649]

1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

Without hesitation I would take Spencer ahead of the other three.

Daw is still just a raw athlete, and I would be surprised if it didn't stay that way.

Vickery - I would question whether he is mentally up to playing top level sport.

Holmes is largely unproven, but probably the most promising of the three. Still going to take another couple of years though.

Spencer on the other hand is a ready to go ruck man. Another pre-season under his belt against Gawn, and he will be a more than capable back up ruck man.

Ideally though, the club should be trying to land a forward/ruck, in the mould of Peter Wright, Rory Lobb, or even Nathan Vardy.

 

SPENCER you are Kidding!??

Spencer has been on the list for Ages and has failed to make an impact ever!

Daw will take out the Mark of the year ( Spencer is lucky if he can get of the ground!)

Vickery has won games of his own boot for Tiges and can play ( Spencer has not)

Holmes is a raw untapped Talent. (Spencer struggles to coordinate putting boot to ball on occasions!)

Come on King, are you serious???

Edited August 5, 2016 by picket fence

[John Demonic 5,500]

Vickery playing well tonight, who would have thought that fast delivery into the forward line would suit him... Already had a game with more contribution than any of Dawes all year. I don't think ive seen him this year in space.

Edited August 5, 2016 by johndemons

[beelzebub 23,197]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

We have one in Max King if he could just get his [censored] together, not sure whether he will survive this year though

 

Big IF

More likely...not likely

Reality bites 

[KingDingAling 3,737]

16 hours ago, picket fence said:

SPENCER you are Kidding!??

Spencer has been on the list for Ages and has failed to make an impact ever!

Daw will take out the Mark of the year ( Spencer is lucky if he can get of the ground!)

Vickery has won games of his own boot for Tiges and can play ( Spencer has not)

Holmes is a raw untapped Talent. (Spencer struggles to coordinate putting boot to ball on occasions!)

Come on King, are you serious???

It is not so much that I rate Spencer. More so that I don't rate Daw or Vickery.

Daw isn't a footballer, he is just an athlete, I don't think he adds much at all. He is a fine looking specimen, but if you take the muscles away, would he be on an AFL list? I don't think he would. North have persisted for a long time. Longer than I would've.

Vickery has obvious mental issues for mine. Clearly he is capable. But for a guy who was recruited as a forward, he has only managed 156 goals in 118 games. If he wasn't a high draft pick he'd be playing country football. He might be able to win games off of his own boot, but that clearly doesn't happen very often. Mentally he isn't up to playing consistently good football IMO.

Holmes. I don't mind Holmes. I like him as a project player, and I think he is going to make it. But he isn't ready to ruck full time, and that is what a back up ruckman might have to do. They might have to ruck full time. He isn't ready yet. I am not against taking him, just that if Gawn did go down (god forbid), then Holmes still isn't ready.

Spencer is ready. He will be able to fill the role. That is all he needs to do. He doesn't need to set the world on fire, he just needs to provide a contest, and I think he can do that.

[Little Goffy 13,981]

"Vickery has won games off his own boot for the Tigers"

Now I've seen everything.

In 118 games, there's been maybe five where he was among the top-3 on the day.

 

Anyway, Spencer is a full-time ruck, and Vickery is a full-time forward.

Spencer has value to us only as a back-up to Gawn, not as a partner on the field.

Vickery has no value to us as we aren't in need of any more of that position.

[John Demonic 5,500]

Pedo

Edited August 6, 2016 by johndemons

[P-man 13,366]

Magic Door is playing like a man possessed against the Hawks. Still too inconsistent for mine but he can certainly turn it on.

[chook fowler 19,248]

Larry, Curly or Mo?

[Redleg 40,066]

On 8/5/2016 at 7:34 PM, Biffen said:

He always has a few inches on the others.

I'm sure he can forge a long career.

Showing your age Biff. 

[Redleg 40,066]

On 8/6/2016 at 2:04 PM, Little Goffy said:

"Vickery has won games off his own boot for the Tigers"

Now I've seen everything.

In 118 games, there's been maybe five where he was among the top-3 on the day.

 

Anyway, Spencer is a full-time ruck, and Vickery is a full-time forward.

Spencer has value to us only as a back-up to Gawn, not as a partner on the field.

Vickery has no value to us as we aren't in need of any more of that position.

I suppose, with Spencer signed until end of 2017 and happy to play the understudy role, it could be easier to just extend his contract yearly and hope the two Kings come on.

We can also rookie another ruckman if needed as insurance.

[MadAsHell 4,209]

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

I suppose, with Spencer signed until end of 2017 and happy to play the understudy role, it could be easier to just extend his contract yearly and hope the two Kings come on.

We can also rookie another ruckman if needed as insurance.

Think you'll find Max King will be delisted. 

[Redleg 40,066]

1 hour ago, AngryAtCasey said:

Think you'll find Max King will be delisted. 

Hope not, unless plan is to re rookie him.

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

1 hour ago, AngryAtCasey said:

Think you'll find Max King will be delisted. 

Did I read right that he kicked 5 on the weekend in the DL?

Although, that is the issue... It was in the DL!

I hope he makes it as for some strange reason he is my 7 yr old son's 2nd favourite player behind the #29 on his jumper 

[MadAsHell 4,209]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Hope not, unless plan is to re rookie him.

 

1 hour ago, KrazyJay said:

Did I read right that he kicked 5 on the weekend in the DL?

Although, that is the issue... It was in the DL!

I hope he makes it as for some strange reason he is my 7 yr old son's 2nd favourite player behind the #29 on his jumper 

Three years on the rookie list. Currently in the D League on form and couldn't get into the Casey seniors despite no Weideman,  Hulett or Tim Smith. Still gets pushed off the contest to easily also.

I know the key position players take time, but given he's been a rookie for 3 years now, they either need to promote him or delist him. I suspect it will be the later.