POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 7

[Kumamoto_Ken 1,531]

21 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

How good were Matt Grandland and Brett Phillips (both from SEN) at commentating today.

No ego, no nonsense, just good old-fashioned commentating.

Just watched the game again (it was just as enjoyable second time around) and thought the same thing when the commentry names flashed up.

No forcing nicknames, no catch-phrases, it was actually a pleasant reminder of what commentary can (should) be like.

Edited May 8, 2016 by Kumamoto_Ken

[Binmans PA 26,263]

Watching the replay again and note that Jetta has won about 5 freekicks. He either drew them cleverly or won them by going hard at the contest. Love him.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

5 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

Watching the replay again and note that Jetta has won about 5 freekicks. He either drew them cleverly or won them by going hard at the contest. Love him.

How was the zero respect he showed Martin after the free kick deep in the back pocket. Just played on and waltzed around him like he wasn't there. 

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

15 hours ago, praha said:

Bit rough. Was raised by Gablett Snt, who we all know what he's like, and who is considered the greatest of all time. Not surprising that amidst his dad's drug and social issues that Jnr found God and buckled down a bit. I certainly see that his personality and demeanour has a lot to do with that, not wanting to turn into Ablett Snr 2.0. They're chalk and cheese. Ablett Snr didn't even know his teammate's names.

Ablett Jr is a pretty massive introvert which makes him an odd choice for captain.  When faced with the media he tends to shut down and go into robot mode.  The real question is whether there is any personality hidden away in there that pokes it head out when he's not in public? 

Re the hit on Viney, was the guy reported? 

[spirit of norm smith 13,056]

1st quarter... horrible. 61 handballs. Garlands clanger was awwwful. Hogan being double teamed. We doninated the play but 2 goals down. 

2nd quarter. Gawn got on top. Forwards moving.  Jonesy leading the way. Lynch on top of Mcdonald.Kent puts us in front. 

3rd quarter. Viney Tyson Oliver Bugg Kennedy. Harmes. Vince. Hunt. Jones. Viney 2 ripping goals. We were destroying their mids. Pumping into our 50. Hogan and Watts held. Mids kicking goals. Wagner clanger was a downer.

4th quarter. Petraccccccccca goals. and again. Hunt running and tackling superb. Harmes on fire. Big Max almost BOG but misses goals. Mids dominant. Slack last 4 minutes gives Suns 2 late goals. 

[jackaub 1,402]

I haven't watched a replay

What happened to Jack Watts hardly saw him in the initial watching of the game. Was he well held or just had a down day?

He and Hoges will need to be up and about next week.

[Chris 2,892]

5 hours ago, jackaub said:

I haven't watched a replay

What happened to Jack Watts hardly saw him in the initial watching of the game. Was he well held or just had a down day?

He and Hoges will need to be up and about next week.

Watts played decoy most of the night. Both he and Hogan were well held/double teamed but both at times lead purely to create space. Was a good game from both for the team but not great for their stats. 

[jackaub 1,402]

10 minutes ago, Chris said:

Watts played decoy most of the night. Both he and Hogan were well held/double teamed but both at times lead purely to create space. Was a good game from both for the team but not great for their stats. 

Thanks  for that will watch replay tonight

[Spirit of 26 261]

Saint's performance yesterday puts last week's effort into perspective.

[Phadraig 760]

A nice 11 minute highlights reel of all the goals

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2016-05-09/rd-7-all-the-goals

[ArtificialWisdom 3,886]

9 minutes ago, Rafiki said:

A nice 11 minute highlights reel of all the goals

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2016-05-09/rd-7-all-the-goals

has that video ever been so long?? fantastic stuff

[binman 38,595]

19 minutes ago, Spirit of 26 said:

Saint's performance yesterday puts last week's effort into perspective.

Some interesting form lines evolving given we also pushed the roos and beat GWS, who thumped the saints.

[Generation dee 1,336]

On Saturday, May 07, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Miracle said:

Does anyone know the last time we had 75 inside 50's. 

Rounds 3-8 2012. Took 6 weeks though.

[ManDee 7,091]

I boarded a plan in Hanoi at half time. I had been watching the odds tumble in our favour and I mean tumble. Arrived in Ho Chi Minh  & couldn't believe the score. I then watched the highlights on AFL.com Happy days. Gawn is driving our renaissance, if we lose him we are in trouble. Go Deeeeees! 

[monoccular 16,190]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Watts played decoy most of the night. Both he and Hogan were well held/double teamed but both at times lead purely to create space. Was a good game from both for the team but not great for their stats. 

Both in a way sacrificed their attacking games for the team - well done both.  

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,177]

Two things that stood out for me in the match:

1) The amount of goals that were given-off / given away by players to their team mates.  Very often during the game players were taking possession of the ball in poitions where the goal was kick-able.  Instead they were giving off to team mates in better positions and making a certainty of it.  This is a sign of a team playing for each other and not for themselves.  

2) I don't mind our 'clash socks'

[John Crow Batty 8,266]

1 hour ago, Spirit of 26 said:

Saint's performance yesterday puts last week's effort into perspective.

Not really,  the way we lost to the Saint's was more about how we played rather than what they did. We did push North to the limit also but under difficult  conditions  in Tassie.  The  Saints also had the advantage of playing at Doom & Gloom Stadium.

Edited May 9, 2016 by america de cali

[binman 38,595]

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Not really,  the way we lost to the Saint's was more about how we played and also handled Doom and Gloom stadium rather than what they did. We did push North to the limit also under less favourable conditions  in Tassie.  

It's funny i took Spirits comments to mean our game against the saints wasn't too bad given they are a pretty good side as evidenced by them pushing the roos. 

[Spirit of 26 261]

20 minutes ago, binman said:

It's funny i took Spirits comments to mean our game against the saints wasn't too bad given they are a pretty good side as evidenced by them pushing the roos. 

Glad someone's on the ball.

[monoccular 16,190]

On 7 May 2016 at 11:20 PM, Petraccattack said:

I wish I was tech savvy enough to add Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries over this clip.

Maybe someone clever enough can do it.  I am playing it now in he background as I rewatch this amazing chase over and over again.

We could play it on the ground audio whenever Wagner gives chase - would haunt the opposition, and far better than that pathetic "music" played after every GCS goal up there.  

(I guess they need something fake to try to create an atmosphere for their faux team).

[monoccular 16,190]

On 7 May 2016 at 8:49 PM, Tingay82 said:

There was a period in that 3rd quarter we were just electric . Then applied great pressure after that. Great to see Petraccaro looking sweet Viney was epic max Gawn worth weight in gold. GO DEEZ

$55.87 per gram x 111 kgm = $6.2 million

About right?

[Undeeterred 2,865]

Interesting watching the highlights package - I know Hogan apparently had a fairly quiet game, but I did see at least 2 or 3 really strong tackles he laid in chains that led to our goals. Fantastic to see him impacting up on the flanks and the wings, even if that means he's perhaps not kicking as many goals one week and others are as a result. Good on him.

[Middymalt 244]

On 7 May 2016 at 8:20 PM, Demon Jack said:

Wasn't listed in our best in the AFL website. Was easily in our top four most important players today in my opinion.

Considering he worked his way of the rookie list he's the type of player you would like to see make some decent coin out of the club.

[CHF 2,607]

I have watched the replay a couple of times and each time i picked up on a few different things.

The games that Watts and Hogan played were significant and part of the reason we won so well. each of these players were targeted by the Suns and were double and sometimes tripled teamed to ensure they did not get ant chance of clean ball. To the credit of both of them they still managed to have a positive effect whenever the ball came into their sphere of influence. while Watts did not get a lot of the ball, when he did get it, his use of it was exceptional. His vision and the way he weights his kicks is lovely to watch. Hogan wants the ball and will move all over the ground to get a touch. his second and third efforts are great and a few of these lead to the ball staying in the forward 50.

In the midfield we have some real talent. Viney we all know about. To me he is not the most skillful player but he is one of the hardest players I have seen in a long time and his persistence to get the ball is something else. This season I have also noticed in broken play that he seems to be positioning himself a little better knowing that team mates will win the ball. What to say about Oliver? He is where the ball is. He gets his hands on it and gets it to a teammate and then moves to where to bell is next going to be. 18yo? if he builds his tank, develops the body and just continues to do what he is doing now for the next 10 years without improvement he will be a great.

Not about to go through every player but a special mention to Petracca. He did some excellent things on Saturday evening and will only get better. he has good hands a vision and knows where to move to. His second goal was a cracker.

In Hunt and Wagner we have a couple of players that give the Demons a real point of difference. With their speed off the mark from half back they are going to cause a lot of teams a lot of headaches.

In the last few seasons I have been existing on hope. this season, for the first time in a long time I have expectations.

[binman 38,595]

These comments from first Burgan and then Roos in this article neatly sum up the point i was making about the importance of Hunt and Wagner for both the now and the future (ie that they were selected to increase our chances of winning now and for their development) and why Wagner was selected ahead of Grimes: 

 

If Josh Wagner hadn’t showed his promise in his just his second AFL game against North Melbourne at Blundstone Arena in round two, then he reinforced it in his native state.

His run down tackle on Ablett, one of the game’s greatest players, typified his effort and his side on the night.

Jayden Hunt also played his best game yet. His numbers were good, without being great.

His breakaway pace and ability to rebound was evident.

He looms as an integral part of Melbourne’s side long term and offers a point of difference Melbourne has been looking to add to its mix.....

“Gawny (Max Gawn) was a great contributor to our win, and so was [Jack] Viney and Chunk (Nathan Jones), but I really liked Wags and Hunty off half-back,” Roos said.

“Hunty’s speed was unreal and it’s great to see him building his confidence and use his legs and run. With Wags, I just love it when he gets the ball, because you know that he’ll use it.

“Definitely Gawny, Vines and Chunk were good, but I thought those two (Hunt and Wagner) were really good.”