THE BOMBERS' SWISS ADVENTURE

[biggestred 4,876]

They finished last. They should get a friday night game because....?

[Willmoy1947 4,017]

20 minutes ago, Macca said:

They want to play us, great.  Let's kick their butts.  From a financial viewpoint it's potentially a million dollar pay day every other year ... bring it.  It's a fantastic initiative.

PJ would be all over this ... another locked-in fixture at the MCG that we don't have to sell off to the NT.  We should be brokering deals with the Blues, Cats & Hawks as well.  The Tigers & Pies are already taken care of (Anzac eve & the QB clash)

The more home games at the MCG against the big Victorian clubs the better.  Even if it's only every 2nd year.  What we should be doing is pushing for 2 games a year against the big Victorian clubs every season ... that would assure us of a number of big home game fixtures. 

We take Collingwoods place with one of their favourite son's son's son....

[daisycutter 29,491]

3 minutes ago, biggestred said:

They finished last. They should get a friday night game because....?

because....it's gil's way of saying sorry, we'll make it up to you

[Macca 16,773]

5 minutes ago, biggestred said:

They finished last. They should get a friday night game because....?

The fixturing of prime-time games is largely based on popular support ... that's the way it has been and that's the way it will almost certainly continue.  Like it or not.

So it's up to our club to find a way into these games ... we're not going to take on city hall and beat them so the initiatives involving the Pies (long standing),  Tigers (more recently) and now the Bombers are good ones. 

Essendon are not going to be punished any further.  In fact, they're going to get some favours thrown their way.  And if our club can benefit as a consequence, I'm all for it. 

[biggestred 4,876]

Last time i checked you had to earn prime time with "results" so the wooden spooners can go and get [censored]. According to the afl.

Dogs are in a grannie had [censored] all Friday nights. 

So its a lie. Its [censored]. 

[beelzebub 23,254]

Only one recourse. Shoot these f..kers down in flames . Bury the bastards !!

Milkshake, Mother Cupboard bound to want to best old club. Goody needs a win.

Macca and Egan to the fore to help

Fmd there's a lot of vermin about us !!

[biggestred 4,876]

We wont win. 

We will sit through 30 mins of "our returning victimised heros" who will be incredibly up and about

And we will lose

 

[Macca 16,773]

21 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Last time i checked you had to earn prime time with "results" so the wooden spooners can go and get [censored]. According to the afl.

Dogs are in a grannie had [censored] all Friday nights. 

So its a lie. Its [censored]. 

It's about popularity with regards to prime-time fixturing ... winning games helps but it's not the cure-all that people think it is.  Forget about what we're told - that's all bs & spin. 

If you look back at all the prime-time fixturing for the last 15 or so years you'll see a pattern.  The 'big' clubs are nearly always well represented and the only way a less popular club gets these sorts of fixtures is if they perform consistently well on a year by year basis (primarily) One bad year and you're often off the list (unless you're a big club) 

There are huge commercial interests at play and those commercial interests are going to win out.  Channel 7 would have a big say in proceedings and they'll want a big return for their buck.  Maximising viewers = higher advertising revenue.

Even when we were playing finals on a semi consistent basis the most prime-time games we ever got was about 5 ... Collingwood received about 9 prime time fixtures in 2006 (plus Anzac day & the QB) after having a 5 & 17 record the year before (they tanked in 2005 as well)

"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" was never more apt 'BR'  ... the good news is our club can benefit.  I'd rather that than having to ask for compensation (which is perceived & viewed as hand-outs)

[biggestred 4,876]

What im saying is that theyve use the excuse "friday nights are for good teams" when in reality its for "teams that havelots of fans so people will watch".

Dont lie afl, just say it

[beelzebub 23,254]

We WILL win this one. 

 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

 

13 minutes ago, biggestred said:

We will sit through 30 mins of "our returning victimised heros" who will be incredibly up and about

It could work the other way. They may overdo it and get too emotional and exhaust themselves.

 

2 hours ago, faultydet said:

We have a terrible record in these sort of games. This is simply playing into the cheats hands.

They "chose" us because they expect to beat us. It's that simple.

So let's smash the c-nuts and rub their faces in it, and Gil's too.

[faultydet 7,594]

1 hour ago, Ted Fidge said:

 

It could work the other way. They may overdo it and get too emotional and exhaust themselves.

 

So let's smash the c-nuts and rub their faces in it, and Gil's too.

Like they did with their "walk to the G" this year, when they embarrassed us?

It has humiliating loss scrawled all over it. Should be a tooth and nail fight to avoid this game. We have a terrible record in this sort of contest, over decades.

Maybe you are too young to remember Ted.

[Cards13 9,117]

16 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Like they did with their "walk to the G" this year, when they embarrassed us?

It has humiliating loss scrawled all over it. Should be a tooth and nail fight to avoid this game. We have a terrible record in this sort of contest, over decades.

Maybe you are too young to remember Ted.

We should be fighting tooth and nails to get the fixture. We don't get Friday nights games because we've been an irrelevant club. We're going to have 2 ex players and 2 ex bumbers coaches. The w2nkas "we're back" game with a huge number of fans... 

Will be an awesome test for the new Goody team. Will we win?? Who knows but we have to be tested.

[faultydet 7,594]

24 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

We should be fighting tooth and nails to get the fixture. We don't get Friday nights games because we've been an irrelevant club. We're going to have 2 ex players and 2 ex bumbers coaches. The w2nkas "we're back" game with a huge number of fans... 

Will be an awesome test for the new Goody team. Will we win?? Who knows but we have to be tested.

We should be fighting tooth and nail to get games we can win, and make a profit from.

An away game against the returning drug cheat heroes will make us zero cash, and embarrass us in prime time in front of prospective members, who we badly need to sign up.

[Sir Why You Little 36,774]

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

We should be fighting tooth and nail to get games we can win, and make a profit from.

An away game against the returning drug cheat heroes will make us zero cash, and embarrass us in prime time in front of prospective members, who we badly need to sign up.

Not if we beat them...At some stage the MFC has got to stand up, rather than trying so hard to run away and hide. 

Why Rounds 22-23really [censored] me off this year....

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

2 hours ago, faultydet said:

Like they did with their "walk to the G" this year, when they embarrassed us?

It has humiliating loss scrawled all over it. Should be a tooth and nail fight to avoid this game. We have a terrible record in this sort of contest, over decades.

Oh. Well, let's just give up now then. Maybe we should petition the AFL to allow us to drop down to the EFL or the SFL.

2 hours ago, faultydet said:

Maybe you are too young to remember Ted.

That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me in decades. Thanks, faultybasil!

[Nasher 33,607]

"I don't want to play Essendon on Friday night in front of 70k because we will lose."

Do you guys see how sad this sounds? 

Bring it the eff on, Essendon.

[beelzebub 23,254]

17 hours ago, faultydet said:

We have a terrible record in these sort of games. This is simply playing into the cheats hands.

They "chose" us because they expect to beat us. It's that simple.

Avoid at all costs.

 

oh, and you can put your house on it being an essedon home game. Another reason to say piz off.

always with them Negative Waves !!!!

 

Edited September 30, 2016 by beelzebub

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,664]

18 hours ago, biggestred said:

What im saying is that theyve use the excuse "friday nights are for good teams" when in reality its for "teams that havelots of fans so people will watch".

Dont lie afl, just say it

I'm sure I read somewhere (The Age perhaps?) that the highest rated games on TV  this year did not generally include "traditional" favourites, such as Carlton, Collingwood and Richmond. If that's correct, that's a welcome change from past experience. It will encourage Channel 7 to seek more games on free-to-air premium spots from teams like the Bulldogs and others expected to do well. On that basis, expect to see more Friday and Saturday night games including the Bulldogs and possibly St Kilda and Melbourne at the expense of North, Fremantle and Richmond.

If Essendon v Melbourne is Round 1 on a Friday night, we should rejoice. It is likely to be one of the highest rating games of the year. All we have to do is play well and we'll be big beneficiaries, whether it's a home or away game. 

 

[rjay 24,689]

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm sure I read somewhere (The Age perhaps?) that the highest rated games on TV  this year did not generally include "traditional" favourites, such as Carlton, Collingwood and Richmond. If that's correct, that's a welcome change from past experience. It will encourage Channel 7 to seek more games on free-to-air premium spots from teams like the Bulldogs and others expected to do well. On that basis, expect to see more Friday and Saturday night games including the Bulldogs and possibly St Kilda and Melbourne at the expense of North, Fremantle and Richmond.

If Essendon v Melbourne is Round 1 on a Friday night, we should rejoice. It is likely to be one of the highest rating games of the year. All we have to do is play well and we'll be big beneficiaries, whether it's a home or away game. 

 

I think the Friday night crowd have been undersold.

Maybe I've got it wrong but don't most people want to see a really good game irrespective of the team playing?

I think the best teams/games should be on Friday nights not the so called power clubs and surely that would rate better than an average game or blowout featuring Collingwood, Carlton or Richmond...

[Macca 16,773]

5 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think the Friday night crowd have been undersold.

Maybe I've got it wrong but don't most people want to see a really good game irrespective of the team playing?

I think the best teams/games should be on Friday nights not the so called power clubs and surely that would rate better than an average game or blowout featuring Collingwood, Carlton or Richmond...

The argument you're putting forward has been put forward before rjay ... and then nothing changes.  The big clubs with large supporter bases get a 'leeway time' that can extend for long periods of time ... when those clubs start playing finals they then open up a big window for themselves.  That's the formula as I see it.

We can talk about what should happen and we do - every year.  But nothing really changes.  The Blues, Pies, Tigers & Dons will almost certainly collectively get a disproportionate amount of prime-time games next season relative to their position on the ladder this season.

So the best way for our club to get these sort of games is to first of all play well and then to broker deals with the big clubs so as to get exposure in prime-time games.  We've done it with the Tigers & Pies and it looks like it will be happening with Essendon as well.  We can also do deals with the Blues, Hawks, Cats and even the Doggies could present an opportunity.

60,000+ crowds in prime-time games adds up to an excellent windfall if those games are our home games.  As for our sponsors, they get great exposure either way.

 

[Cards13 9,117]

On 30 September 2016 at 8:37 PM, faultydet said:

We should be fighting tooth and nail to get games we can win, and make a profit from.

An away game against the returning drug cheat heroes will make us zero cash, and embarrass us in prime time in front of prospective members, who we badly need to sign up.

When we belt them we will make cash from members signing up, new sponsors looking at us. Odd attitude FD.

[sue 9,074]

16 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

When we belt them we will make cash from members signing up, new sponsors looking at us. Odd attitude FD.

He's just suffering from MFCSS. Very understanable.

[faultydet 7,594]

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

When we belt them we will make cash from members signing up, new sponsors looking at us. Odd attitude FD.

While we no doubt improved, it's a very dangerous game with the emotion that will be attached. Would much prefer to play them later.

Our record over the last decade is abysmal in games like this (if it happens) I think its odd that anyone doesn't understand that.

Supporters typing bravado don't make the team play any better.

Hope I'm very wrong of course, but history is on my side. The last 2 games really took the wind out of my sails.

[Cards13 9,117]

31 minutes ago, faultydet said:

While we no doubt improved, it's a very dangerous game with the emotion that will be attached. Would much prefer to play them later.

Our record over the last decade is abysmal in games like this (if it happens) I think its odd that anyone doesn't understand that.

Supporters typing bravado don't make the team play any better.

Hope I'm very wrong of course, but history is on my side. The last 2 games really took the wind out of my sails.

FD mate every game is dangerous... Do you think the Doggies would have the same attitude? Bring it on!!!