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8 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

I agree. Tyson's output last year was a tiny fraction of what he is capable of, and we are being told this is because of his body issues. This guy is another super high draft pick we have been led to believe will become a star for this club. If he was to unnecessarily fall victim to an 'interruption' worthy of a golden ticket, the way Petracca has done, I would be furious with him also. Good point Moonshadow.

You don't get injuries playing on your playstation. You also don't become an elite footballer.

We want to draft competetives beasts. They will always do physical activities in their down time.

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It's the doing sports outside of the club whilst still in rehab. If he was fully fit prior, so be it. 

But he was still on a strict modified program from the club to ensure he came back from the knee injury 100%

The broken foot means this doesn't happen.

Posted
2 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

The toe is a set back. But it gives him further time to strengthen the muscles around the knee. IMO it is a blessing in disguise, he will be cherry ripe when the hard running starts. When it comes to Petracca I couldn't care less about round 1.

No injury is a blessing and as for CB stance yes he's correct you only have to look at Roos response to know it was a stupid thing to do when in rehab.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, olisik said:

This will stop him from doing a bigger injury just before the season kicks off

hmmm...let's give all our players fractured toes to stop them doing ACL's before the season starts......hmmmmm

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Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, Middymalt said:

No injury is a blessing and as for CB stance yes he's correct you only have to look at Roos response to know it was a stupid thing to do when in rehab.

Just my opinion. I was never big on rushing Trengove (previously) and Toumpas without a good, solid foundation. I do think it is a blessing in disguise with CP, others might disagree, as they are perfectly entitled to.

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59 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Just my opinion. I was never big on rushing Trengove (previously) and Toumpas without a good, solid foundation. I do think it is a blessing in disguise with CP, others might disagree, as they are perfectly entitled to.

I'll meet you halfway - I was never big on previously rushing Trengove and Toumpas without a good solid foundation. I am not big on rushing Petracca, Oliver or any other young player until they are fit and considered ready. But seeing an injury as a blessing....lots of injuries heal quickly without problems - others don't . Frost had a four week toe injury which kept him out of action for the best part of the season. The blessing we want is to have every player on our list injury free.

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6 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

The toe is a set back. But it gives him further time to strengthen the muscles around the knee. IMO it is a blessing in disguise, he will be cherry ripe when the hard running starts. When it comes to Petracca I couldn't care less about round 1.

How does being in a moon boot, unable to run and encounter all of the football related movements, allow the muscles around his knee (whatever they are) to strengthen?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, McQueen said:

How does being in a moon boot, unable to run and encounter all of the football related movements, allow the muscles around his knee (whatever they are) to strengthen?

An extremely good question Steve.

IMO it simply doesn't

Posted
3 hours ago, nutbean said:

hmmm...let's give all our players fractured toes to stop them doing ACL's before the season starts......hmmmmm

Did I read somewhere that CP5 was doing lay ups and not wearing shoes? If so that would be the stupid thing. Not the fact he was playing basket ball at home.

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Video footage in of Petracca's accident...

 

 

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Posted
50 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

blessing in disguise. wow.

It was a blessing in disguise for him when he did his knee and sat out the first year same as Hogan the year before. They are able to build their bodies into men and study the game with our development coaches which is beneficial for their development as Hogan showed.  This 5 week injury is NOT a blessing in disguise.. its an injury that should never have happened and hopefully he will learn from this. All that 12 month development and rehab work has not paid off now because of this silly injury which has now held him back again.

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Posted
20 hours ago, McQueen said:

How does being in a moon boot, unable to run and encounter all of the football related movements, allow the muscles around his knee (whatever they are) to strengthen?

Yeah, good point.

Posted (edited)

Don't we need a Rising Star winning year on the footy field before we can label any aspect of his journey a "blessing"?

Perhaps we should say "it's been an as yet undetermined result in disguise"?

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Posted
19 hours ago, PaulRB said:

Don't we need a Rising Star winning year on the footy field before we can label any aspect of his journey a "blessing"?

Perhaps we should say "it's been an as yet undetermined result in disguise"?

I'm on him for the rising star at $10. He was $6 before the toe.

Just slowly specking him at this stage. Got burnt on Cripps last year, and was into Brayshaw early.

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13 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

I'm on him for the rising star at $10. He was $6 before the toe.

Just slowly specking him at this stage. Got burnt on Cripps last year, and was into Brayshaw early.

He's very unlikley now to top Brayshaw's first year, who played 21 games and was only good enough for fifth

(side note: can you believe 18 players on our list have played less games than 20 year old Brayshaw?!)

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Posted
19 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

He's very unlikley now to top Brayshaw's first year, who played 21 games and was only good enough for fifth

(side note: can you believe 18 players on our list have played less games than 20 year old Brayshaw?!)

Its also very unlikely the competition will be as strong as Cripps or Hogan. Also, from memory, Brayshaw also copped the vest a couple of times.

The rising star field doesn't look as strong to my eye, it looks weak. I would still favor Petracca even if he didn't rock up the first few rounds.
 

18 players on our list that have played less games than Brayshaw. That is an interesting stat. Good times ahead if some of those players turn out to be elite.

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Posted
4 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

Its also very unlikely the competition will be as strong as Cripps or Hogan. Also, from memory, Brayshaw also copped the vest a couple of times.

The rising star field doesn't look as strong to my eye, it looks weak. I would still favor Petracca even if he didn't rock up the first few rounds.
 

18 players on our list that have played less games than Brayshaw. That is an interesting stat. Good times ahead if some of those players turn out to be elite.

But also potentially what will keep us from playing finals in 2016. We still have a very inexperienced list, and losing Melksham hurts this further.

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The loss of Melksham sucks. He was our key signing in the trade period and they obviously had a very specific role for him in 2016. I reckon he would've had a very good season.

 

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1 minute ago, Ron Burgundy said:

The loss of Melksham sucks. He was our key signing in the trade period and they obviously had a very specific role for him in 2016. I reckon he would've had a very good season.

 

yes, while i had some reservations, he was signed as a ready-to-go player

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Having him would've gone a fair way to offsetting the loss of experience that came from Cross's "retirement". 

We lost 601 games of experience with retirements/delistings at the end of 2015, and added 91 games in Bugg/Kennedy and 114 in Melksham. Excluding Melksham's games, that's a net loss of 510 games of experience to an already very inexperienced side.

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