Jump to content

  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.



Nascent

Recommended Posts

Why did he nominate Collingwood followed by Carlton if the prior fails...

Are you really that naive

Treloar has nominated Collingwood

GWS are playing hard ball and want more than Collingwood are offering

Carlton has 1st pick in the PSD

A leak suggests Calron are offering more money

Treloar's manager acting in his clients best interests says he is open to this

GWS weigh up the 2

Treloar walks and they get nothing

They take Collingwoods offer and get 2 picks

FFS it isn't that hard to work out, how this is being played out,

Edited by Pennant St Dee
  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Why is Treloar not our number one target?

He, Wines, Mitchell and Prestia are the best under 23 midfielders in the game, and Treloar wants a return to VIC.

We should be a major player for his services, and he is worth any long term deal.

Who says he's not...

Why did he nominate Collingwood followed by Carlton if the prior fails...

It doesn't mean he wasn't our number one target, who would know...

If he was our number one target it still doesn't mean he has to chose us. The point is we don't know who we've targeted and spoken to, it's not the way we do business anymore and I'm happy with this.

We don't need PJ and the crew to lead the cheer-squad into battle, we just need them to successfully rebuild the club.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Are you really that naive

Treloar has nominated Collingwood

GWS are playing hard ball and want more than Collingwood are offering

Carlton has 1st pick in the PSD

A leak suggests Calron are offering more money

Treloar's manager acting in his clients best interests says he is open to this

GWS weigh up the 2

Treloar walks and they get nothing

They take Collingwoods offer and get 2 picks

.

FFS it isn't that hard to work out, how this is being played out,

Haha naive, who would have known that Carlton has the first pick, or Collingwood #7 & #25!

Maybe if you could string two thoughts together you would realise we have enough to compete with any other rival offer - rather than forfeit the possibility.

We have the money and in a draft offering a key forward (who would join Patton, Cameron, and McCarthy if the Carlton trade came to fruition) or key back with the first two selections, our pick #6 and Howe (who GWS offered a lucrative contract in the closing stages of the 2014 trade period) should be adequate. If not any possible pick obtained from the departure of Toumpas would be sufficient.

We have the resources and we should be at the forefront of any trade battle to acquire his services.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It doesn't mean he wasn't our number one target, who would know...

If he was our number one target it still doesn't mean he has to chose us. The point is we don't know who we've targeted and spoken to, it's not the way we do business anymore and I'm happy with this.

We don't need PJ and the crew to lead the cheer-squad into battle, we just need them to successfully rebuild the club.

I completely agree with you and as I stated yesterday I'm pleased by the lack of leaks in recent times.

This trade period we need a Treloar, Parker, or Prestia etc. to catalyse our success by contributing to more wins in the short term that would alleviate or reduce the difficulties of recruiting free agents and other OOC players in future years.

Edited by ignition.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I love the way Melbourne are playing their cards.

Every other club is laying their cards down so everyone can see.

Melbourne can just come in and trump the lot.

Just because the Filth is the wealthiest club, they have the same salary cap as anyone else, apart from those north of the border.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm getting really sick of clubs like St. Kilda and Carlton getting nominated over us! We're not any worse than they are, in fact this year's ladder would demonstrate we're as good if not better. It just really gets on my nerves when they could flat out reject any interest from us and then go on to be open to a move to Carlton. Or bloody Carlisle nominating St. Kilda! I dunno, good on them...but sometimes I look at it and think really?? We're not THAT bad surely.

Maybe (definitely) I'm just bitter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I'm getting really sick of clubs like St. Kilda and Carlton getting nominated over us! We're not any worse than they are, in fact this year's ladder would demonstrate we're as good if not better. It just really gets on my nerves when they could flat out reject any interest from us and then go on to be open to a move to Carlton. Or bloody Carlisle nominating St. Kilda! I dunno, good on them...but sometimes I look at it and think really?? We're not THAT bad surely.

Maybe (definitely) I'm just bitter.

How do you know that Carlisle wouldn't have nominated Melbourne, had we had any interest in him?

Players aren't nominating clubs that have no interest in them. Otherwise everyone would say they want to go to Hawthorn.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I feel like a Mitch Clark scenario is unraveling here. The way we are going into this trade period reminds me of being at an auction.. We're just sitting there, letting the other suitors battling it out for the property, then we just come in with a late bid that trumps them all. LETS GO DEES!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm getting really sick of clubs like St. Kilda and Carlton getting nominated over us! We're not any worse than they are, in fact this year's ladder would demonstrate we're as good if not better. It just really gets on my nerves when they could flat out reject any interest from us and then go on to be open to a move to Carlton. Or bloody Carlisle nominating St. Kilda! I dunno, good on them...but sometimes I look at it and think really?? We're not THAT bad surely.

Maybe (definitely) I'm just bitter.

You're also acting a bit irrational.

We don't want every player that's on the market. We have holes to fill, and we have a tight budget that must be managed.

We also happen to have potentially the best player in the league for the next decade we're trying to lock down on a long-term contract.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Haha naive, who would have known that Carlton has the first pick, or Collingwood #7 & #25!

Maybe if you could string two thoughts together you would realise we have enough to compete with any other rival offer - rather than forfeit the possibility.

We have the money and in a draft offering a key forward (who would join Patton, Cameron, and McCarthy if the Carlton trade came to fruition) or key back with the first two selections, our pick #6 and Howe (who GWS offered a lucrative contract in the closing stages of the 2014 trade period) should be adequate. If not any possible pick obtained from the departure of Toumpas would be sufficient.

We have the resources and we should be at the forefront of any trade battle to acquire his services.

WTF who would have known Carton had 1st pick, it's usually decided on ladder position

If you think the club hasn't made any inqs into Treloar you are affording further evidence to your naivety. Or were you expecting the club to send you a personal sms or email on exactly what they are doing behind the scenes

Don't know where you have been for the last two trade periods but we no longer leak info

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Surly GWS are only putting it out there to get a better pick off Collingwood for him.

We all know how hard Collingwood are to trade with.

SHHHH don't let Ignition hear you bringing logic into the scenario

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm getting really sick of clubs like St. Kilda and Carlton getting nominated over us! We're not any worse than they are, in fact this year's ladder would demonstrate we're as good if not better. It just really gets on my nerves when they could flat out reject any interest from us and then go on to be open to a move to Carlton. Or bloody Carlisle nominating St. Kilda! I dunno, good on them...but sometimes I look at it and think really?? We're not THAT bad surely.

Maybe (definitely) I'm just bitter.

Melksham has as good as nominated us, as has Kennedy. Carlisle isn't exactly Paddy Dangerfield, and not what we need in any case.

The blues have probably offered Treloar similar terms to the Pies - probably even better to get his interest. That's fine, we obviously don't value him that highly so our offer isn't as big, etc. It all comes down to a bidding war; and like any auction the one prepared to pay the highest price wins.

So coming back to Milkshake and Kennedy - they're interested in us because we've put the best offers to them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The deal to Collingwood is not necessarily a certainty according to GWS

could we steal him ?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


What about the following:

Melbourne Give: 2015 and 2016 1st round picks

GWS Give: Treloar, Bugg and 2015 2nd round pick

They'd want something else thrown in for that.

They're giving two players and a pick for two picks in that scenario.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They'd want something else thrown in for that.

They're giving two players and a pick for two picks in that scenario.

Bugg would only be worth a 3rd or 4th rounder anyway. Plus Treloar is definitely not worth two first round picks on his own.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What about the following:

Melbourne Give: 2015 and 2016 1st round picks

GWS Give: Treloar, Bugg and 2015 2nd round pick

GWS knocked back Collingwood's offer of 2015 & 2016 1st rounders. Why would they accept ours, and throw in Bugg and a 2nd rounder too?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

GWS knocked back Collingwood's offer of 2015 & 2016 1st rounders. Why would they accept ours, and throw in Bugg and a 2nd rounder too?

Cos our picks will likely be earlier both years and Bugg is steak knives in any such deal.

2nd rounder would not be involved, it'd be either/either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

GWS knocked back Collingwood's offer of 2015 & 2016 1st rounders. Why would they accept ours, and throw in Bugg and a 2nd rounder too?

Because our picks are before Collingwoods + we're nicer people!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

GWS knocked back Collingwood's offer of 2015 & 2016 1st rounders. Why would they accept ours, and throw in Bugg and a 2nd rounder too?

I don't think Collingwood have actually offered 2 first round picks. I'm fairly sure they offered 1st this year and 2nd next year or something like that.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    GAMEDAY: Rd 08 vs Geelong

    It's Game Day and the two oldest teams in the competition, the Demons and the Cats, come face to face in a true 8 point game. The Cats are unbeaten after 8 rounds whilst the Dees will be keen to take a scalp and stamp their credentials on the 2024 season. May the 4th Be With You Melbourne.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 11

    LEADERS OF THE PACK by The Oracle

    I was asked to write a preview of this week’s Round 8 match between Melbourne and Geelong. The two clubs have a history that goes right back to the time when the game was starting to become an organised sport but it’s the present that makes the task of previewing this contest so interesting. Both clubs recently reached the pinnacle of the competition winning premiership flags in 2021 and 2022 respectively, but before the start of this season, many good judges felt their time had passed - n

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 4

    PODCAST: Kade Chandler Interview

    I'm interviewing Melbourne Football Club's small forward Kade Chandler tomorrow for the Demonland Podcast. I'll be asking him about his road from being overlooked in the draft to his rookie listing to his apprenticeship as a sub to VFL premiership to his breakout 2023 season to mainstay in the Forwadline and much more. If you have any further questions let me know below and I'll see if I can squeeze them in. I will release the podcast at some time tomorrow so stay tuned.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 25

    TRAINING: Monday 29th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin was on hand at Gosch's Paddock for Monday's training session and made the following observations. About 38 to 40  players down at training.  BBB walking laps.  Charlie Spargo still in rehab, doing short run throughs.  Christian Salem has full kit on and doing individual work with a trainer. He is is starting to get into some sprints. I cannot see Andy Moniz-Wakefield out there. Jack Viney and Kade Chandler have broken away from the

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    DISCO INFERNO by Whispering Jack

    Two weeks ago, when the curtain came down on Melbourne’s game against the Brisbane Lions, the team trudged off the MCG looking tired and despondent at the end of a tough run of games played in quick succession. In the days that followed, the fans wanted answers about their team’s lamentable performance that night and foremost among their concerns was whether the loss was a one off result of fatigue or was it due to other factor(s) of far greater consequence.  As it turns out, the answer to

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 16

    TIGERS PUNT CASEY by KC from Casey

    The afternoon atmosphere at the Swinburne Centre was somewhat surreal as the game between Richmond VFL and the Casey Demons unfolded on what was really a normal work day for most Melburnians. The Yarra Park precinct marched to the rhythm of city life, the trains rolled by, pedestrians walked by with their dogs and the traffic on Punt Road and Brunton Avenue swirled past while inside the arena, a football battle ensued. And what a battle it was? The Tigers came in with a record of two wins f

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    PREGAME: Rd 08 vs Geelong

    After returning to the winners list the Demons have a 10 day break until they face the unbeaten Cats at the MCG on Saturday Night. Who comes in and who goes out for this crucial match?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 565

    PODCAST: Rd 07 vs Richmond

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 29th April @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Tigers in the Round 07. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 44

    VOTES: Rd 07 vs Richmond

    Last week Captain Max Gawn overtook reigning champion Christian Petracca in the Demonland Player of the Year Award. Steven May, Jack Viney & Alex Neal-Bullen make up the Top 5. Your votes for the win against the Tigers. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 54
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...