Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

what's the best with fitzpatrick as chairman they get it?

Carlton are going to be struggling a long time like the Dees. With free agency these clubs at the bottom need extra assistance. I think whether its extra draft picks or extra salary cab allowance it needs to be used to get existing players. For instance a mid first round pick is granted to a club and they need to trade it for existing plater/players. Just drafting kids isn't going to achieve anything with the age of their list.

Posted

what's the best with fitzpatrick as chairman they get it?

I think Carlton would do better in FIFA than the AFL. Those brown paper bags that Carlton uses would come in handy indeed.

Posted (edited)

what's the best with fitzpatrick as chairman they get it?

I am absolutely certain that they will (a) not come under scrutiny for "their rebuild method", referred to in the case of another club as tanking, (b) will get "more generous consideration" in any PP discussion and © get a favorable draw in particular as far as times and venues, all under Fitzpatrick's supervision.

As the poster above mentioned, think FIFA and Blatter and Visy paper bags, and special deals on outside payments for special players, and of course the old AFL catch cry, "the integrity of the game"!

Edited by monoccular
  • Like 1

Posted

I watched a couple of quarters of the Sydney game.

I thought the Blues worked very hard and the result was quite respectable considering there top four players were out.

The MFC in this same situation would have lost by 20 goals.

  • Like 2
Posted

If Carlton got a priority pick I think we'd be entitled to ask some very serious questions,

Mfc has won 40 games in 8 years not played finals in a decade

Carlton played in a semi final two years ago

Posted

If Carlton got a priority pick I think we'd be entitled to ask some very serious questions,

Mfc has won 40 games in 8 years not played finals in a decade

Carlton played in a semi final two years ago

every one falling on deaf ears too !

Until theres a Dee at head office we're a second class citizen in this league !!


Posted (edited)

If Carlton got a priority pick I think we'd be entitled to ask some very serious questions,

Mfc has won 40 games in 8 years not played finals in a decade

Carlton played in a semi final two years ago

No organisation could possibly be so hypocritical.

Sigh, who are we kidding.

Edited by Choke
Posted

By overlooking MFC for PP last year, I thought the powers to be (AFL) were setting themselves up for a fall.

Given that Carlton were always going to be worse this year - than we were last year.

Now the AFL will be placed in a difficult situation. Because to allocate Carlton a PP would be seen as playing favorites.

Especially when MFC was fined 500k for tanking, and Carlton were the most obvious tankers in the history of the game.

Why should Carlton get a PP? Why should other teams be slotted back a spot in the draft because Carlton mismanaged their list.

In the past 5 years Carlton have traded out Sam Jacobs, Shaun Grigg, Eddie Betts, Jarrod Waite, Jeff Garlett, and mismanaged and traded out Brendon Fevola.

On top of trading in Henderson, they also got a decent pick for Fevola - which they used on Kane Lucas. They failed to develop Lucas.

Sounds like MFC all over again for Carlton. We didn't get a PP, neither should Carlton.

Posted (edited)

The AFL has absolutely no shame. They WILL play favourites. They are hypocrisy personified after all !! This is the same AFL that allocated Carlton all these Friday night games when any idiot could see they were going to be next to useless this year.

They'll work some way out to hand the Blues some distinctly favourable picks

The AFL are as corrupt as FIFA in my book.

Edited by beelzebub
  • Like 1
Posted (edited)

By overlooking MFC for PP last year, I thought the powers to be (AFL) were setting themselves up for a fall.

Given that Carlton were always going to be worse this year - than we were last year.

Now the AFL will be placed in a difficult situation. Because to allocate Carlton a PP would be seen as playing favorites.

Especially when MFC was fined 500k for tanking, and Carlton were the most obvious tankers in the history of the game.

Why should Carlton get a PP? Why should other teams be slotted back a spot in the draft because Carlton mismanaged their list.

In the past 5 years Carlton have traded out Sam Jacobs, Shaun Grigg, Eddie Betts, Jarrod Waite, Jeff Garlett, and mismanaged and traded out Brendon Fevola.

On top of trading in Henderson, they also got a decent pick for Fevola - which they used on Kane Lucas. They failed to develop Lucas.

Sounds like MFC all over again for Carlton. We didn't get a PP, neither should Carlton.

and not forgetting that carlton had previously been given THREE pps AND despite that still got into their current position

so, considering everything they would odds on to get a pp :lol:

Edited by daisycutter
Posted (edited)

I watched a couple of quarters of the Sydney game.

I thought the Blues worked very hard and the result was quite respectable considering there top four players were out.

The MFC in this same situation would have lost by 20 goals.

Yes they actually hit in harder than I've seen this year. Looks like they weren't behind Mick for quite a while. Not comparing MM to MN but the lack of fight this year reminded me of 2012/2013 under him.

MM has really left them in a pickle though. I got the impression he wanted to replicate another mini Collingwood with their heavy combative style and up the line play with the aim to extract and move up the field from each consecutive stoppage. In the process he seemed happy to let go of many of their outside runners and playmakers up forward.

I would hate to be a new coach taking this list over as he didnt manage to create an effective MM style mid field and now they dont have their outside/forward playmakers/runners either.

Having said that, I'm sure they will eventually resurrect themselves from the mire within a decade or so. Im not as confident that we will unless we replace our NQRs with real AFL footballers.

Edited by Rusty Nails
Posted

They played finals for 3 years before 2014.

What was our record for the last 8 years.

The PP is dead.

I believe there was a bloke called Lazarus played for Carlton so dont be so sure there Red..Its only dead for us !!

Posted

I think Carlton would do better in FIFA than the AFL. Those brown paper bags that Carlton uses would come in handy indeed.

where do you think Fee Fi Fo Fum got it from.

Posted

I watched a couple of quarters of the Sydney game.

I thought the Blues worked very hard and the result was quite respectable considering there top four players were out.

The MFC in this same situation would have lost by 20 goals.

very hard for an old ex pies coach to get the players inline, when the coach is being undermined by sections of club, from day one. the players were well in the loop resisting 'old malty' from day dot.

they got him to upset jock mchales record & e'd, & the pies; then they sacked him... they looked to this day since before the end of last season. they were on a planned rebuild from early to mid last season, & so obviously they new then, that the old coach doesn't have enough years or patience, to do the rebuild. they planned early last year to get Silvagni back, & the next plank was malthouse, but not til they took the coaching record in the blues name, first.

make no mistake, the blues are nothing if not schemers. & if they haven't brown paper bags at their disposal, they will use any other underhanded method they can. its in their DNA.

Posted

No team has deserved a Priority Pick more than Melbourne in 2013. If the AFL refused one then, they should never give one. It is unlikely they will give one to Carlton this year, but they will be desperate to give one to their vanity project on the Gold Coast. Of course, by knocking back Melbourne in 2013 and Carlton in 2015, it will make it very hard for them to give one to Gold Coast in 2016. Not that rank inconsistency has ever bothered the AFL.

The secret formula supposedly revolves around "extraordinary circumstances" but watch the AFL make a case that the Suns are an extraordinary circumstance.


Posted

So...

...what's your Point?

Posted

Another 4 points who cares.

On a lighter note, 17 clubs would work although can't work out new name other than Melbon...

Posted

According to the Hun Daisy has an option in his favour for a 5th year. Carlton fans must've choked on their Weaties this morning.

Its a long way back for the Blues. Its "Old Carlton" I fear for. Carlton is the only team he knows!

Posted

I have this feeling in the Pit of my gut that the Blues might actually beat us back into being a decent team.

Richmond were well behind us and went pass us with not too much trouble the Blues may well do the same.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Wednesday 18th December 2024

    It was the final session of 2024 before the Christmas/New Years break and the Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force to bring you the following preseason training observations from Wednesday's session at Gosch's Paddock. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS TRAINING: Petracca, Oliver, Melksham, Woewodin, Langdon, Rivers, Billings, Sestan, Viney, Fullarton, Adams, Langford, Lever, Petty, Spargo, Fritsch, Bowey, Laurie, Kozzy, Mentha, George, May, Gawn, Turner Tholstrup, Kentfi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 16th December 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers braved the sweltering heat to bring you their Preseason Training observations from Gosch's Paddock on Monday morning. SCOOP JUNIOR'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I went down today in what were pretty ordinary conditions - hot and windy. When I got there, they were doing repeat simulations of a stoppage on the wing and then moving the ball inside 50. There seemed to be an emphasis on handballing out of the stoppage, usually there were 3 or 4 handballs to

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Friday 13th December 2024

    With only a few sessions left before the Christmas break a number of Demonlander Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from this morning's preseason training session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS PLAYERS IN ATTENDANCE: JVR, Salem, McVee, Petracca, Windsor, Viney, Lever, Spargo, Turner, Gawn, Tholstrup, Oliver, Billings, Langdon, Laurie, Bowey, Melksham, Langford, Lindsay, Jefferson, Howes, McAdam, Rivers, TMac, Adams, Hore, Verrall,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 11th December 2024

    A few new faces joined our veteran Demonland Trackwatchers on a beautiful morning out at Gosch's Paddock for another Preseason Training Session. BLWNBA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I arrived at around 1015 and the squad was already out on the track. The rehab group consisted of XL, McAdam, Melksham, Spargo and Sestan. Lever was also on restricted duties and appeared to be in runners.  The main group was doing end-to-end transition work in a simulated match situation. Ball mov

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 9th December 2024

    Once again Demonland Trackwatchers were in attendance at the first preseason training session for the week at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Looks like very close to 100% attendance. Kelani is back. Same group in rehab. REHAB: Spargo, Lever, Lindsay, Brown & McAdam. Haven’t laid eyes on Fritsch or AMW yet. Fritsch sighted. One unknown mature standing with Goody. Noticing Nathan Bassett much m

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Friday 6th December 2024

    Some veteran Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations from another Preseason Training Session. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Rehab: Lever, Spargo, McAdam, Lindsay, Brown Sinnema is excellent by foot and has a decent vertical leap. Windsor is training with the Defenders. Windsor's run won't be lost playing off half back. In 19 games in 2024 he kicked 8 goals as a winger. I see him getting shots at g

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 4th December 2024

    A couple of intrepid Demonland Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock for the midweek Preseason Training Session to bring you the following observations. Demonland's own Whispering Jack was not in attendance but he kicked off proceedings with the following summary of all the Preseason Training action to date. We’re already a month into the MFC preseason (if you started counting when the younger players in the group began the campaign along with some of the more keen older heads)

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    BEST OF THE REST by Meggs

    Meggs' Review of Melbourne's AFLW Season 9 ... Congratulations first off to the North Melbourne Kangaroos on winning the 2024 AFLW Premiership. Roos Coach Darren Crocker has assembled a team chock-full of competitive and highly skilful players who outclassed the Brisbane Lions in the Grand Final to remain undefeated throughout Season 9. A huge achievement in what was a dominant season by North. For Melbourne fans, the season was unfortunately one of frustration and disappointment

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

    There were many Demonland Trackwatchers braving the morning heat at Gosch's Paddock today to witness the players go through the annual 2km time trials. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Max, TMac & Melksham the first ones out on the track.  Runners are on. Guess they will be doing a lot of running.  TRAINING: Max, TMac, Melksham, Woey, Rivers, AMW, May, Sharp, Kolt, Adams, Sparrow, Jefferson, Billings, Petty, chandler, Howes, Lever, Kozzy, Mentha, Fullarton, Sal

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...