Training Wednesday 17th December, 2014

[Grandson of a gun 276]

Was anyone able to make it down?

Any chance if people did that they could report on it and the thread could actually stay on topic as a training thread?

[Longsufferingnomore 1,504]

Got Buckley's with that....

[Deeman 1,430]

Got Buckley's with that....

Buckley coaches Collingwood. Nothing to do with us. Please stay on topic.

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

Well, I thought I had a bit of free time so I might pop down, I only live 15 minutes walk from Goschs and the G that is why I can get there so often

Ball work day today, so not much running (apart from in the drills), there didn't seem to be anybody missing

Rehab group was Spencer, Riley, Stretch, Trengove, Vandenberg, Watts and Kent, joined for this session by Tommy Mc, Salem and Jetta

Spoke to both Nev Jetta and Salem, nothing sinister, just a bit of tightness after training on Monday, so light duties, Nev also was hoping to play in scratch match on Friday, reckons he owes Jimmy Toumpas one, found out why he had an issue a couple of weeks ago, after Toump shirtfronted him and tackled him, Sam Frost fell across his arm

Spoke to Aidan Riley, has been on a specific program to give him a base fitness level which he lost when he broke his leg, also working on making sure the leg can get through a full season, he says it has taken this long for him to feel confident with it

Also spoke to Bernie Vince, back doing most of the drills, no contact though, and has to remember to not snatch at high marks just yet, he can mark but only when he has time to set himself

Garlo was the volunteer for the 'guns' photo this week, but being Tasmanian he only went with one arm

Toumpas and Dunn were missing on Monday as they had an 'indoor' program, like I keep saying, Misson as total control now and the whole process is so much more professional, watched the rehab group, Alex who was running had the whole program for all of them written out and he just kept calling out what was next and who it involved

Roos very vocal today when one of the drills was not to his liking

Six was there so we should get some photos, mine will be on Twitter Demonpk

Any questions feel free

[Tough Kent 2,077]

Thanks TDI.

How much do the new draftees integrate into drills with the main group? Do they still predominantly work separately or are they spending a larger % of their time working with the rest of the list?

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

Thanks TDI.

How much do the new draftees integrate into drills with the main group? Do they still predominantly work separately or are they spending a larger % of their time working with the rest of the list?

Today they integrated, apart from Stretch, Petracca rolls around the ground like a tank, he is quite fast when he gets rolling, Neal-Bullen looks the junior athlete he was/is, White has a booming left leg as reported, Brayshaw just looks like a footy player and Oscar Mc has a good kick on him

Other things you notice Fitzy justs stands on his left leg and Jack Viney on his right.

I got a quick lesson in the Maths of goalkicking from Fitzy, if you are to the left of the goal you can bend it with your right, if you are on the run on the left going away from goal, then checkside it, on the right hand side, you can checkside if close enough in and on the correct angle

Other noticeable thing, Chunk Jones, Cross and Lumumba seem to be building up a good understanding around the stoppages

[Gorgoroth 12,447]

How much is Goodwin doing? And what sort of things do you see him doing?

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

How much is Goodwin doing? And what sort of things do you see him doing?

He does of a lot of observing, but over the course of the week, he works with Ben Mathews on stoppages and positioning, has been doing at least one drill a session with the new guys on positioning and body work, today he also did stoppage work from a boundary throw with most of the midfield group

[ManDee 7,101]

Whenever I read jesseBhogan I see Jesse Bogan (silent H)

TDI if feeling brave you should mention it to him. You do have medical insurance don't you?

[DeeSpencer 23,712]

Today they integrated, apart from Stretch, Petracca rolls around the ground like a tank, he is quite fast when he gets rolling, Neal Bullen looks the junior athlete he was/is, White has a booming left leg as reported, Brayshaw just looks like a footy player and Oscar Mc has a good kick on him

Other things you notice Fitzy justs stands on his left leg and Jack Viney on his right.

I got a quick lesson in the Maths of goalkicking from Fitzy, if you are to the left of the goal you can bend it with your right, if you are on the run on the left going away from goal, then checkside it, on the right hand side, you can checkside if close enough in and on the correct angle

Other noticeable thing, Chunk Jones, Cross and Lumumba seem to be building up a good understanding around the stoppages

Good old Fitzy. Expert on checksides. Incapable of kicking a fluent drop punt and unable to mark. A 6'6 crumbing forward/ruckman.

[Green Machine 63]

Has Lumumba been training in the midfield group or defensive group ? Keep on hearing that he has been doing stoppage work with the midfielders, perhaps a midfield role for him next year ?

[the grint 71]

Hows Brayshaw going? Back into the main group? How does he go in drills against the older boys?

Cheers for the report TDI

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

Good old Fitzy. Expert on checksides. Incapable of kicking a fluent drop punt and unable to mark. A 6'6 crumbing forward/ruckman.

You will be pleased to know throughout the whole session he only put one ball down, amazing what can happen when the shoulder issues you have had since you were drafted are now fixed, he was kicking well today as well, he just loves the checkside, this will be his first full pre season if he gets through unscathed, let's wait and see

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

Hows Brayshaw going? Back into the main group? How does he go in drills against the older boys?

Cheers for the report TDI

I think I put it above, Brayshaw just looks a footy player, does everything asked with the minimum of fuss, reckon he will just grow into it, he is like Tyson at training

[dazzledavey36 49,919]

Is Shannon Byrnes actually allowed to train with the main group or he does his own thing.

[Gorgoroth 12,447]

Thanks mate. Appreciate the info.

[Grandson of a gun 276]

Thanks TDI for the report and pics on Twitter. Very much appreciative of all who give training reports given I am laid up for a while and can't get there myself. Thanks for keeping it on topic too.

I like many believe the key to improvement next year will be midfield depth and improvement (as well as the forwards being consistently available). Hence I am interested to hear about the blokes we are looking to step up this year namely-

Michie, Newton, Riley as well as the 2nd and 3rd year players in Kent, Toumpas, Salem, Viney et al.

How are they looking/training and any impressions on development/improvement from last pre season.

Thanks again.

[chook fowler 18,642]

I think many underestimate Fitz. He still is very young for a tall and has had health/injury issues. With further development and support could be very very handy.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

I think many underestimate Fitz. He still is very young for a tall and has had health/injury issues. With further development and support could be very very handy.

I think so too. I believe he was a champion hurdler as a teen.

Explosive big men don't grow on trees. If his shoulder has been hampering him as Saty suggests he could surprise a few this year. He may look unco but he seems to kick goals.

[angrydee 842]

I also believe that Fitzy will turn out to be a useful player. If he can gain some confidence.

[chookrat 3,872]

I think so too. I believe he was a champion hurdler as a teen.

Explosive big men don't grow on trees. If his shoulder has been hampering him as Saty suggests he could surprise a few this year. He may look unco but he seems to kick goals.

Fitzy has all of the tools to become a cult hero, just needs to mature and build some consistency.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

If Fitz can play like he did in the last two rounds, he will play every week could avg two goals a game.

[DeeSpencer 23,712]

I think many underestimate Fitz. He still is very young for a tall and has had health/injury issues. With further development and support could be very very handy.

Health and age aren't excuses for lacking the skills required to play AFL. Despite years on the list he hasn't improved his marking or kicking techniques to anywhere close to AFL level. They still stand out at training as being below par.

With increased fitness and strength from a good preseason he should improve, but he's just too flaky to pick as a key forward I believe. If a preseason improves his ability to compete in the ruck I'd like to see him challenge Pedersen for that second ruck spot

[Lucifers Hero 37,559]

Thanks DI.

What was Hogan up to today...any sign of back problems again?

ps could you put a link to your twitter pages please (I don't have twitter a/c but can get to pics when posters put a link into post). Cheers.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,937]

Thanks DI.

What was Hogan up to today...any sign of back problems again?

ps could you put a link to your twitter pages please (I don't have twitter a/c but can get to pics when posters put a link into post). Cheers.

Just google "demonpk twitter"