THE ESSENDON 34: ON TRIAL

[rjay 24,928]

1 injection is 1 too many...

Doesn't matter if they had 1 or 1000, they are still guilty of a drug offence and liable to a 2 year suspension.

[beelzebub 23,377]

Kinda makes you think that some might have woken up to it all ( a bit late however ) ...horse bolted etc

[biggestred 5,093]

well, 1 injection of a banned substance is too many.

injections themselves are ok.

however it definitely seems like attempted use!

[ManDee 7,153]

1 injection is 1 too many...

Doesn't matter if they had 1 or 1000, they are still guilty of a drug offence and liable to a 2 year suspension.

[deefrag 277]

Consent form looks kosher, solid as the Magna Carta!

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.theage.com.au%2Ffile%2F2013%2F04%2F12%2F4187826%2F1304consentform.pdf&ei=pFD-VPKON4ri8AXiu4HQCw&usg=AFQjCNGNtd15ULKSJW9AaXzoqKfj8Q0OSg&sig2=Hvp0cBJeF5pnkdYeDCaEfQ&bvm=bv.87611401,d.dGc

[daisycutter 29,616]

about as reliable an account of history as homer's illiad - lol

[ManDee 7,153]

Kinda makes you think that some might have woken up to it all ( a bit late however ) ...horse bolted etc

[jnrmac 20,089]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mix-of-penalties-likely-for-any-bombers-found-guilty-by-the-tribunal-20150309-13z3rk.html

Roy Masters article raising the likelihood of different penalties for different players. Not sure about that but....

He also mentions that the time being taken by the tribunal is partly because it has to produce 34+ different verdicts from the massive amount of evidence, interviews, reports etc etc. They want to get it right to avoid a protracted legal dispute in each case. Imagine 34 separate appeals.......

[old dee 23,792]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mix-of-penalties-likely-for-any-bombers-found-guilty-by-the-tribunal-20150309-13z3rk.html

Roy Masters article raising the likelihood of different penalties for different players. Not sure about that but....

He also mentions that the time being taken by the tribunal is partly because it has to produce 34+ different verdicts from the massive amount of evidence, interviews, reports etc etc. They want to get it right to avoid a protracted legal dispute in each case. Imagine 34 separate appeals.......

It could yet happen

[beelzebub 23,377]

It could yet happen

and they'd still be suspended

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

It could yet happen

No doubt, and they can all sit out until its all sorted out.

[dworship 3,342]

A lot of what you say is true, but to say there have been no developments is not right. Every time there is an article in the media it seems reasonable for people here to comment on it.

In theory I hate no club more than others, but by crikey when I recall the 2000 GF and compare EFC with say a struggling club like Footscray, I know where I'll apply any schadenfreude I can conjure up.

I keep being drawn back to this thread and always find I'm several pages behind. But I cannot help myself and find myself analyzing the arguments and comments and questioning why I would so like to see another teams supporters pain. I've come to the realization that I just hate their smugness and the fact a large number that I know and some that I call friends have rubbed my nose in it for years! The scheisse I've copped for the 2000 GF, the comeback in 92, the tanking saga.

If Essendon supporters suffer a little, maybe it will teach them a little humility, I know it's had an effect on me.

Just for the record, I hate the smugness of Collingwood and Hawthorn supporters too! Carlton supporters have had a dose of reality and Richmond supporters are just feral. ( Apologies to anyone who has a partner who supports Richmond, then again, you make a bed)

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-are-concerned-their-fate-is-already-decided-as-tribunal-decision-nears/story-fnp04d70-1227257480290?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter

[daisycutter 29,616]

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-are-concerned-their-fate-is-already-decided-as-tribunal-decision-nears/story-fnp04d70-1227257480290?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter

thanks....what a non story.....then the hun is good at that, eh

btw is it everyone's opinion that when the decision is made on guilt or not that penalties will be handed out at the same time?

i've now seen a couple of references that indicate sentencing will be at a later time

if so i wonder how long?

[biggestred 5,093]

I keep being drawn back to this thread and always find I'm several pages behind. But I cannot help myself and find myself analyzing the arguments and comments and questioning why I would so like to see another teams supporters pain. I've come to the realization that I just hate their smugness and the fact a large number that I know and some that I call friends have rubbed my nose in it for years! The scheisse I've copped for the 2000 GF, the comeback in 92, the tanking saga.

If Essendon supporters suffer a little, maybe it will teach them a little humility, I know it's had an effect on me.

Just for the record, I hate the smugness of Collingwood and Hawthorn supporters too! Carlton supporters have had a dose of reality and Richmond supporters are just feral. ( Apologies to anyone who has a partner who supports Richmond, then again, you make a bed)

Yes they are arrogant BUT if they are guilty then this is the biggest doping scandal in team sport in the world. Systematic doping by a club.

If they are let off the hook then all sport as we know it will be a free for all and who has the most money to pay for drugs will win.

It cannot be allowed to happen if we want clean sport, which we do.

It doubly cannot be allowed to happen given the conduct of their club since.

[old dee 23,792]

thanks....what a non story.....then the hun is good at that, eh

btw is it everyone's opinion that when the decision is made on guilt or not that penalties will be handed out at the same time?

i've now seen a couple of references that indicate sentencing will be at a later time

if so i wonder how long?

That article is interesting to me because the " fan boys club"seems to have changed.

No story's of how bad ASADA case is going or how they are hardly done by for a while.

My understanding dc is that the three wise men will give their decisions on guilt or innocence and then the AFL have to level the penalities.

Is that not how it works?

They are going to give 34 decisions so it follows the AFL will level 34 penalities.

It is hard to see all this happening before the season starts in four weeks time.

[What 18,810]

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-are-concerned-their-fate-is-already-decided-as-tribunal-decision-nears/story-fnp04d70-1227257480290?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter

2 matches hhahahaa. In their dreams.

[beelzebub 23,377]

So NOW they're concerned ??

comical

[Satan 2,872]

Consent form looks kosher, solid as the Magna Carta!

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.theage.com.au%2Ffile%2F2013%2F04%2F12%2F4187826%2F1304consentform.pdf&ei=pFD-VPKON4ri8AXiu4HQCw&usg=AFQjCNGNtd15ULKSJW9AaXzoqKfj8Q0OSg&sig2=Hvp0cBJeF5pnkdYeDCaEfQ&bvm=bv.87611401,d.dGc

no spot for date ???

[Biffen 12,943]

All good for Mitch Clisby and Jim Magner.

Another two seasons beckon.

[Gorgoroth 12,955]

Loved the line about them quitting and suing.

[biggestred 5,093]

Loved the line about them quitting and suing.

But only if they were given lengthy bans not if they were found guilty

Either way the duty of care had been breached..

[beelzebub 23,377]

But only if they were given lengthy bans not if they were found guilty

Either way the duty of care had been breached..

im getting the feeling any more than 2 weeks is "lengthy "

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

They can't be serious about two weeks, twelve months minimum imo, very lucky to even get that.

[biggestred 5,093]

My point is if my employer had injected me with something and said it was something else id consider the duty of care breached regardless of my ban

If i was paddy ryder id be suing for all they had.