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Rewind to 2011 and few would've disputed that we had a player on a path towards being a bonafide A grader. A 19 year old averaging over 20 disposals at 72%. A tackling machine who could win his own ball and use it extremely well.

We know how things have progressed from there, the theories behind which are varied, but all have legitimacy - injuries, positional changes, premature captaincy, culture..the list goes on.

Even his own teammates have given him stick for his "concrete boots", and just maybe the source has been found and is about to rectified. Time will tell on that front.

A core midfield of Jones, Tyson, Vince, Viney and Cross sounds okay, but Trengove would be a very handy addition to that list of names.

Just how important is Trenners' resurgence to the fortunes of 2015 and beyond?

How hopeful are you of seeing it happen?

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One additional capable midfielder with a mature head might just be enough to attain a 'critical mass' to make our midfield routinely competitive.

A resurgent Trengove could take our midfield from feeling like 'kids topped up by a few talented individuals' to being a 'well mixed, quality midfield group'.

I still rate him, with appropriate caveats of course.

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Important, hopefully for us.


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No more important than the improvement of Michie, Viney, Tyson, Toumpas, JKH, Barry, Watts, Salem, Kent, McDonald, Gawn and Hogan. For us as a club to move up the ladder it isn't about Trengove, it is about him and all his mates around the same age improving.

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Before he was diagnosed with his foot condition, how long had it been since he was at his best?

2011 was a good year for him. So that would be 2 years before he injured his foot, 3 years in total up until now. 3 years is a long time in football.

To be frank, he has been woeful since the end of 2011, even with his injuries and all (not what one would have hoped from a #2 draft pick).

I hope he can get back to his best and then improve on that (after all he was only a 2nd year player - not exactly bordering on becoming a great player). It would be great if he could find some form and help improve our midfield, but to do that, he will definitely need to surpass his 2011 self.

Sadly, i doubt that he will be able to, as he has lost whatever pace and burst of speed he had. Sure people can blame and put hope in the fact he had a foot problem, but surely it can't have gone unnoticed for all of the 2 years where he was stuck in reverse with form and pace.

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^^^^agree

Feels very Brock like - probably needs to drop a heap of weight, and then who knows (McLean has barely been a valuable contributor since leaving). would love to be wrong.

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  On 23/09/2014 at 03:51, pitchfork said:

^^^^agree

Feels very Brock like - probably needs to drop a heap of weight, and then who knows (McLean has barely been a valuable contributor since leaving). would love to be wrong.

His biggest problem was Mark Neeld, Trengove was the most effected by Neeld. He took it on himself to implement Neelds defensive came and it stuffed him, he became a robot and lost his ability to play football. He has never been quick but he knew where to run and he could run all day, he lost that he ran to the spot he was told to run to and lost his ability to read the game.

The year off is best the best thing for him, hopefully he can be re-programmed to what he was prior to Neeld

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  On 23/09/2014 at 04:25, drdrake said:

His biggest problem was Mark Neeld, Trengove was the most effected by Neeld. He took it on himself to implement Neelds defensive came and it stuffed him, he became a robot and lost his ability to play football. He has never been quick but he knew where to run and he could run all day, he lost that he ran to the spot he was told to run to and lost his ability to read the game.

The year off is best the best thing for him, hopefully he can be re-programmed to what he was prior to Neeld

this kid can play no doubt. get him fully fit again and he will be an important cog in our midfield. people forget he also is very good overhead, great tackler and level headed, also a very nice kick on the run.

if we can get our top 5 in the B and F to actually continue their form this year and get improvement out of Garland and Grimes who were that standard the year before, then add in a fit Trengove, Hogan we may actually move up the ladder.


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Depends what we get.

I'm not sure he'll ever have speed on the outside or huge power on the inside that makes a top line midfielder. But as a guy who can play forward a bit, wing and midfield he could be a handy inclusion.

If he's got enough pace to be competitive and his top endurance back I wouldn't be against using him as a tagger to find his form for a while, similarly to how Nathan Jones was used in 2010/2011 before he broke out as a top midfielder.

Trengove, Toumpas and Watts all have to be best 22, it's as simple as that. Doesn't matter what role they play they have to be consistently in the team, we aren't good enough not to have them in.

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  On 23/09/2014 at 03:51, pitchfork said:

^^^^agree

Feels very Brock like - probably needs to drop a heap of weight, and then who knows (McLean has barely been a valuable contributor since leaving). would love to be wrong.

I actually think he needs to get bigger so he can play as a genuine inside mid. Slimming down will cost him in the contest and he isn't quick enough to play as an outside player.

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We need every post to be a winner for MFC to rise.

However not sure how much of a winner Trengove is for us.

He strikes me as the ultimate tweeter flanker/ mid that excels at neither. Lacks pace too.

Aside from apparently being a top bloke I am not sure he is a big part of our future on what I have seen.

I hope he gets his fitness back and gives AFL his best shot.

God knows despite his limitations, MFC have truly stuffed this guys development up. He deserved better.

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All he needs is a bit of breakaway pace back in his game and he'll be a damaging player for us.

Our midfield is very different these days remember.

As long as he can have a completely injury free pre-season with a focus on speed, he'll be a surprisingly good addition to a midfield of Jones, Tyson, Viney, Cross and Vince.

(and Dangerfield...)

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  On 23/09/2014 at 03:12, ILLDieADemon said:

why isn't he on the demonland banner?. replace him with chip at once

Yep I'm sick of that dopey mug,

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