Post Match Discussion - Round 15

[Deemotivated 550]

Just so frustrating. We deserved to lose and it would have been a robbery if we won. Jamar and Jetta standout whilst the rest looked ordinary. Frawley dropping the ball twice to set up the winning goal drove me insane. It looked like a simple formula to win. Clearance, long kick, goal. Losing in the middle put us under too much pressure and it seems teams have figured out how to stop any type of transition from back to forward. The carcass that is Casey makes it impossible to make changes with any conviction. Not long until NFL season.

Robbery is what good teams do often. They just find a way to win... We just cannot stay composed in the heat of battle to pinch a win.

[dazzledavey36 48,788]

Don't forget Watts missing the sitter from 20 m out on the 45 degree angle, best kick in the team pahh!

Out of all that you pick our Jack Watts that was probably his only blunder for the game.

unbelieveble

[Binmans PA 26,132]

Thought Frawley was easily our best. Vince was the other, aside from 'that' kick, who tried to lift us up off the canvas. Our midfielders are so slow to release the ball from the stoppages. One of our last goals was created by Barry, who grabbed the ball and slammed it on his boot. It put their defence under the pump immediately. We never looked like winning today.

[jacey 333]

Just so frustrating. We deserved to lose and it would have been a robbery if we won. Jamar and Jetta standout whilst the rest looked ordinary. Frawley dropping the ball twice to set up the winning goal drove me insane. It looked like a simple formula to win. Clearance, long kick, goal. Losing in the middle put us under too much pressure and it seems teams have figured out how to stop any type of transition from back to forward. The carcass that is Casey makes it impossible to make changes with any conviction. Not long until NFL season.

The bombers game was daylight robbery.

This was a game were we helped Bulldogs to win with fumbles, dumb decisions and poor skills.

The first 4 or 5 goals, we had a massive hand in gifting goals. Then they got a run on and we played catch up football.

No Griffen, Libba and Macrae were down. Hard to believe we lost.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,461]

And all this having a crack at young players is a joke. Tyson, Viney, Salem, Toumpas etc could all play together for 10 years. The future is bright there. Calm down.

Agree with the sentiment - BUT - we said that about Sylvia, McLean and Bate. We then said it about Morton, Watts, Scully and Trengove. The future is always 'bright' if you want it to be, but if your team drops one of the very few winnable games it had left in the season, and lost it due to sheer stupidity, I don't blame supporters for feeling a little anger.

Toumpas is looking like a bad pick and it gets worse with every passing week, but he's not the reason we lost today.

[leucopogon 1,468]

You can't play a half and expect to win. Too many passengers - Salem, Kent, Nicho, Terlich. Thought Dom Barry showed a bit and should be given another go. Maxxy and Jamar worked well in tandem. Grimes played his best game in years and I think Frawley is better down back despite his odd brain fade.

Totally disagree, less accountability in the forward line suits him much better, I think he's better on somebody else's list to be honest

[Binmans PA 26,132]

And Tyson had another stinker. He is so slow to get ball to boot and often clumsy in his attack on the man.

[Deemotivated 550]

We still have to play Geelong, Hawks, Port at Port, West Coat in Perth, Freo...

Big chance for the spoon sadly

The run home is a freaking nightmare.

I was not being alarmist when I said we'd probably get the spoon. Its going to be really tough for the rest if the year.

[RickyJ45 392]

a bit depressing losing to the most irrelevant side in the competition twice in one season

[Demon Dynasty 15,508]

Nicholson Terlich Bail all need to be cast at Casey for the rest of the year. Salem too.. shouldn't even be playing today. looks tired and flat. Don't understand how Jimmy Toumpas gets one go and does well and then gets dropped after one game. Yet this kid is getting games when he clearly needs a rest.

Yes mate. Spot on with Bail and Nicho. Neither offer a decent football brain in any situation except if gifted the ball directly in front from 30 meters out. Even then i'd be covering my eyes. The decision making of both players in general play when under little or just perceived pressure is atrocious. Then there's the kicking skills. T MC, Grimes, Bail, Nicho, Terlich and unfortunately a very out of form Garlo's atrocious kicking skills mean we are bound to bleed goals when rebounding out of 50. And we don't win enough center clearances, even against very average opponents, to avoid the ball sailing into our defensive 50 more often than we get it into ours.

And dropping JKH after one poor sub result late in the 3rd against the Pies (i think) has to be one of Roosey's worst decisions this year IMO.. Had he been coached better and not been allowed to wander into our backline off the bench and stuff up a few clutch plays he'd probably still be playing instead of Salem/Barry/Kent. And up forward where he's about our only half decent crummer/goal sneak. JKH isn't a great disposal by foot either compared to the ablove and gets very little of the ball but when he does, provided he's played up forward, he sure knows where the goals are.

[Deecisive 1,652]

we lost and really did not deserve to get as close as we did. We only played 30 mins of half decent football for the whole game. As Roos has said our players need to apply themselve for 4 quarters. Poor skills. it is possible that at least one or two players may not play in the red and blue again. Others are obviously skating on thin ice. I do not understand how we can have roughly the same amount of players in our forward 50 as the doggies, but our guys have a fraction of the possessions of their opponents. Not having good crumbing forwards is killing us, maybe Gawn needs to be played as a crumber as he did a heap better than some of those playing in that position. Too many of our players did not chase and did not put in second and third efforts. very disappointing game not because we lost, but because we played so absolutely poorly.

[chook fowler 18,243]

Main positive is the come back - in previous years would have lost by 100 after such a poor start. Need to get some players with decent skills onto our list.

[leucopogon 1,468]

Sounds like Garland had another shocker.

How much longer does he get to live off his previous credits for?

If I was selecting he'd be in the magoos next round

[titan_uranus 22,366]

On the positive side, we went up a spot on the ladder today at least!

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

Yet he can't get a game, in this side, despite being fully fit.

I don't love hating Toumpas, but we're looking at a player at the end of his second season who has no confidence and has shown none of his wares.

He's now coming from a long way back.

I mean you wouldnt be saying this if he was in the team by gifting him games.

What we are trying to do is make him work on specific things in the VFL before he gets consistent games.

Rather than play and he goes averagely, we'd rather him come back strong and full of confidence

[Bang Bang Bang 5,461]

I don't think the Spoon would be that bad a result. Paul Roos has said on public records many times that "an 18 team competition will always have an 18th placed team". If it's us, then so be it. I think we have showed enough improvement this year not to be alarmed. Pick 1 + 2 (Frawley) would be a nice little leg-up too, with Hogan to come in too.

With a tough run home it's looking more and more likely the Port defeat (even though it was a defeat) was the pinnacle of our season. It's all been downhill since then.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,421]

On the positive side, we went up a spot on the ladder today at least!

And just to bring down that positive. With a win could have been sitting clear a game at 12th place.

[boydie 653]

You can't play a half and expect to win. Too many passengers - Salem, Kent, Nicho, Terlich. Thought Dom Barry showed a bit and should be given another go. Maxxy and Jamar worked well in tandem. Grimes played his best game in years and I think Frawley is better down back despite his odd brain fade.

Interesting comment. Funny how we can pass on some nice feedback about a debutant before quickly deciding they need to be delisted.

I remember when everyone loved Nicholsons run on his debut, Terlichs courage and effort on debut, Toumpas' kicking on debut.... now everyone calls them spuds, not up to it, cost the game blah blah blah

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

And Tyson had another stinker. He is so slow to get ball to boot and often clumsy in his attack on the man.

Please dont bag Dom. He has been our 3rd best player for the year.

Thanks.

[titan_uranus 22,366]

a bit depressing losing to the most irrelevant side in the competition twice in one season

A bit??

They're not just irrelevant, they're no bettee than we are. On one occasion we were better for 95% of the game. On the other, they played without 4 or 5 of their best players.

No matter what else happens this year, I can't imagine anything else being more disappointing.

[olisik 4,060]

Wonder if a PP is off the cards

[beelzebub 22,225]

Ranks along side Terlich's effort when he tried to short pass from the 50 mtr line, from a set shot, to a player under pressure. You could see his eyes, he wanted to do anything other that actually try to have a shot on goal.

There are too many players on our list that are not up to AFL standard and we need to have a real clean out at the end of the year.

This all goes back to that thread some little whiles ago where it was suggested in order to have a truly good team, one that not only is competitive ( and quite frankly....f that for acceptable ) but a winning one would probably need half our list replaced.

And it does

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I wouldn't be having a crack at our mids at this time of year. Viney,Salem,JKH and Tyson will all be knackered and sore and they are playing like that at the moment. They are very young and it's a long season for them. It is another reason for Roos to ask us to trade our picks for established mids.

[leucopogon 1,468]

Out of all that you pick our Jack Watts that was probably his only blunder for the game.

unbelieveble

Only blunder, didn't you see him butcher the ball when we had a great chance to get the ball inside 50 in the first 1/4? Didn't you see him fall over at nearly every 50/50 contest except the one he marked and then missed the easy shot. God, take the rose coloured glasses off

[frankie_d 1,407]

Out of all that you pick our Jack Watts that was probably his only blunder for the game.

unbelieveble

Nonsense. Soft as butter in any number of one on ones. Lost out and let the doggies have nice clean possession. I get it about class, but I really don't know if our team can't afford a player who cant win his own ball.

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