Paul Roos' observations

[rjay 24,887]

I doubt Roos will be looking at any of the big fish like Fyfe, maybe I'm wrong. To me he is more likely to try and uncover another Joey Kennedy type or see if there is another Tyson deal waiting for us.

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

We won't get Omeara for the reasons you have stated PSD but if Fyfe is still hanging out for a DOCKER contract then we should be right in his managers ear.

Any idea what is his sticking point?

Sounds very silly in this day and age and from a bygone era, but he actually just wants to play footy and concentrate on that. I know we hear this trundled out by player agents with such regularity but Fyfe is a simple country lad (and from someone close to him) he has no intention of leaving, he loves the club and believes they will look after him.

I think he is aware there is more money available at other clubs, but he will be financially looked after by Fremantle. Funny you mention Meth Coast, I have said to a few of their supporters what you lack through your midfield is big bodies and we all know Fyfe wants to stay in WA, they would have been better served off loading Nic Nat and putting that money towards Fyfe to boost their midfield

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

I doubt Roos will be looking at any of the big fish like Fyfe, maybe I'm wrong. To me he is more likely to try and uncover another Joey Kennedy type or see if there is another Tyson deal waiting for us.

Agree 100%, I believe he would rather have a number of quality mids than blowing the bank on an out and out gun, wasn't his style at Sydney and part of the reason why the bloods culture thrived

[binman 42,683]

Agree 100%, I believe he would rather have a number of quality mids than blowing the bank on an out and out gun, wasn't his style at Sydney and part of the reason why the bloods culture thrived

I also agree. He flagged today that the dees still needs mids, plural and that's what they would be after come trade period (tall ones at that). Can't see why they wouldn't try a similar strategy that netted Tyson and Salem and i can see the dees developing a good relationship with GWS to engineer trade win wins over the next 2-3 years.

Trading back into high draft picks is smart by GWS as it ensures a good age range across their list and mitigates against having a successful side in 3 years but with a bubble of good players around the same age with a drop off in quality behind it.

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

We also appear to have a plethora of developed KP Players that may well become handy trading pieces. Plenty of clubs have a shortage of KP players. This opens up possibilities of 3 way trade.

Edited June 18, 2014 by Grand New Flag

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

We also appear to have a plethora of developed KP Players that may well become hand trading pieces. Plenty of clubs have a shortage of KP players. This opens up possibilities of 3 way trade.

Names?.....and so after much crying on this board about players not being developed properly, you would then start trading out KP players we have developed.

In all this Roos said 'it would be nice' to have, it was a good excuse for a fishing expedition

[nutbean 8,838]

who will you drop for Trengove He will have to improve a lot to be considered at all IMO.

This is such a redundant post.

2010 - Dunn is injured but returning - who would you drop to make way for him - absolutely nobody

2014 - Dunn is injured but returning - who would you drop to make way for him - absolutely everybody

Trengove showed immense talent in his first two years - if he comes back to that form he would walk back into the side - if he shows the same form from this year and last he will struggle - yikes - now I am making redundant statements !

[rjay 24,887]

Names?.....and so after much crying on this board about players not being developed properly, you would then start trading out KP players we have developed.

In all this Roos said 'it would be nice' to have, it was a good excuse for a fishing expedition

As he did last year 'Sat', lets see who's out there and interested in taking the bait.

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

Sounds very silly in this day and age and from a bygone era, but he actually just wants to play footy and concentrate on that. I know we hear this trundled out by player agents with such regularity but Fyfe is a simple country lad (and from someone close to him) he has no intention of leaving, he loves the club and believes they will look after him.

I think he is aware there is more money available at other clubs, but he will be financially looked after by Fremantle. Funny you mention Meth Coast, I have said to a few of their supporters what you lack through your midfield is big bodies and we all know Fyfe wants to stay in WA, they would have been better served off loading Nic Nat and putting that money towards Fyfe to boost their midfield

Fair call. But let's see what happens at years end.

The attitude of the MFC must become "never say never".

[daisycutter 29,604]

Fair call. But let's see what happens at years end.

The attitude of the MFC must become "never say never".

as long as it's not "whatever it takes" eh?

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

as long as it's not "whatever it takes" eh?

That is Jimma's book title.

The Bastards stole it and forever tainted it.

[Adam The God 30,129]

I also agree. He flagged today that the dees still needs mids, plural and that's what they would be after come trade period (tall ones at that). Can't see why they wouldn't try a similar strategy that netted Tyson and Salem and i can see the dees developing a good relationship with GWS to engineer trade win wins over the next 2-3 years.

Trading back into high draft picks is smart by GWS as it ensures a good age range across their list and mitigates against having a successful side in 3 years but with a bubble of good players around the same age with a drop off in quality behind it.

Just as well that's our thinking. We are still 18th for clearances in the comp. Our midfield isn't third world this year, it's vastly improved, but there's a lot of hard workers in there, without a spread of class. Roos spoke about this on AFL360 too. We just lack that Pendlebury and Swan combo that the other midfielders can hang off. I think what he's actually signalling is that if the price was right, we would still go out for a big name, but he's probably more realistic in thinking that we'll have to go for 'relative unknowns, yet to reach their peak'. As PSD highlighted, it's never been his style to go for big names, but if a Pendlebury was available, there's no doubt Roos would pounce.

[Yossarian 1,820]

Bloody hell it fills me with confidence watching Roosy speak on AFL360. Has to be only a matter of time for success with this guy at the helm.

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

People saying that Roos wont go for the big name players are kidding themselfs.

Roos met with and offered Wayne Carey and Brendan Fevola lucrative offers to come play at the Swans. They both turned it down.

Dont be surprised if Roos does go for a fyfe or a Dangerfield. He wants to make this club better so why not go for the best in the business.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,693]

The previous regime were obsessed with MFC fitness levels and the previous coach spent his first year getting them to a level of fitness comparable to the Woods. At the beginning of 2013 he reported to the board that they were ready go. He appeared to have spent so much time concentrating on fitness he forgot about playing football. What Roos has done is get some half decent players into the midfield, abandoned the money ball approach and made the players use that fitness to run both ways especially down back when we don't have the ball. He is right we were a long way off in that respect. Even today his presser declared that we still need some class in the midfield

Don't agree with this. I think Roos has very much taken this approach but just been more successful with it. Compare Tyson, Cross, Vince, Michie and Riley with Clark, Byrnes, Sellar, Gillies, Dawes, Petersen, Rodan.

In Neeld's defence, he couldn't have foreseen Clark's injuries and he would have found it more difficult to attract talent because he was an unproven coach with a dysfunctional back of house.

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

People saying that Roos wont go for the big name players are kidding themselfs.

Roos met with and offered Wayne Carey and Brendan Fevola lucrative offers to come play at the Swans. They both turned it down.

Dont be surprised if Roos does go for a fyfe or a Dangerfield. He wants to make this club better so why not go for the best in the business.

I hope you are joking, Roos would not go for 'characters' as they were in their playing days

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Nabbing Fyfe or Dangerfield would change this club monumentally.

[rjay 24,887]

Nabbing Fyfe or Dangerfield would change this club monumentally.

For the better or for the worse 'steve'?

I've been around long enough to see us go down this path before and know that it doesn't work.

Judd/Carlton in the end has been a failure, Carlton have a messiah complex that we also have been guilty of.

Buddy at Sydney is a different story as he is not coming in as the messiah, but topping up a really good list with added class. Ablett was the cornerstone of building a new team from the ground up.

Roos says he is about team and I believe this is how we will go, getting one big fish at this time of our development would be a backward step as good as Fyfe and Dangerfield are. Team first then look at who is available down the track if they can add to the team.

Edited June 25, 2014 by rjay

[monoccular 17,413]

People saying that Roos wont go for the big name players are kidding themselfs.

Roos met with and offered Wayne Carey and Brendan Fevola lucrative offers to come play at the Swans. They both turned it down.

Dont be surprised if Roos does go for a fyfe or a Dangerfield. He wants to make this club better so why not go for the best in the business.

OMH - I have very suddenly become concerned ;-((

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

I hope you are joking, Roos would not go for 'characters' as they were in their playing days

Are you mates with Roosy did he actually say that to you?

Just finished reading the Wayne Carey book and he mentioned he met with Paul Roos after the cheating saga and he put to Carey a Lucrative package to join Sydney. He turned it down because he believed Adelaide was always his go and was basically his hometown.

In Barry Halls book he mentioned how Paul Roos met up with Fev in 2009 about the possible of joining the joins. Again turned it down. Fev also mentions this in his book.

Just because they are characters doesn't he completely crosses them off their list Saty. Talk about over reacting. He has the ability to turn these blokes into footy hero's

Heck he even inquiried about Dustin Martin last year when he got the coaching gig.

For Paul Roos if a player was available that would fit our need (Fyfe, Dangerfield) of course he is going to go after them. Not oonly does Roosy wants to set a direction for the club he wants to win! He will do what most supporters would do and thats chase after the best players.

He has an ego and I like it.

PS I am religiously into sport autobiography reading if no one has noticed.

Edited June 25, 2014 by dazzledavey36

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

Are you mates with Roosy did he actually say that to you?

Just finished reading the Wayne Carey book and he mentioned he met with Paul Roos after the cheating saga and he put to Carey a Lucrative package to join Sydney. He turned it down because he believed Adelaide was always his go and was basically his hometown.

In Barry Halls book he mentioned how Paul Roos met up with Fev in 2009 about the possible of joining the joins. Again turned it down. Fev also mentions this in his book.

Just because they are characters doesn't he completely crosses them off their list Saty. Talk about over reacting. He has the ability to turn these blokes into footy hero's

Heck he even inquiried about Dustin Martin last year when he got the coaching gig.

For Paul Roos if a player was available that would fit our need (Fyfe, Dangerfield) of course he is going to go after them. Not oonly does Roosy wants to set a direction for the club he wants to win! He will do what most supporters would do and thats chase after the best players.

He has an ego and I like it.

PS I am religiously into sport autobiography reading if no one has noticed.

Carey comes from Wagga, NSW, yes he played his early football in SA, but thought the 'lfestyle' would have suited him better in Sydney, you can claim to meet anyone in a book, the fact that he signed neither of them when they have always had the financial clout to do so I think says more, we do not need distractions at the moment, will assume if Roos goes for the 'big name' it will be someone who only performs on the field

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

Carey comes from Wagga, NSW, yes he played his early football in SA, but thought the 'lfestyle' would have suited him better in Sydney, you can claim to meet anyone in a book, the fact that he signed neither of them when they have always had the financial clout to do so I think says more, we do not need distractions at the moment, will assume if Roos goes for the 'big name' it will be someone who only performs on the field

Fact is Roos isn't afraid to go out and spend big if he has too. Doesn't matter who it is.

He also has the ability to get these types to perform on the footy field fit them into the culture he is building. Carey turned down Roos because he just wanted to be close to family and friends. As he mentioned it was quite a lucrative package. Same as for Fevola.

To me that puts to bed the perception that Roos won't spend big.

If the right player if there then he will.

[Red N Blue Society 165]

Dangerfield should be the No 1 hunting ground for me....

I'd also throw the sink at Sloane if he was available...Fyfe will command big $$$...Depends what $$ we have to throw around after Mitch leaving.....

[Deecisive 1,709]

we have room in our salary cap for a big named player i doubt that Roos is going to let that go. The problem with attracting big name players last year is that we looked a basket case and no big names wanted to come. now with some $$$$'s incentives and the chance to move to an improving MFC and be coached by Roos there is a much better chance of us nabbing a big name player.

[nutbean 8,838]

I rather like the two for one deals because we certainly need more talent into the club and quickly.

Getting both Tyson and pick 9 was a masterstroke ( looks to be at this stage).