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WorkCover coming after the MFC?


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As mentioned on a different post does this qualify the EFC for bringing the AFL into disrepute. Throw them out as they would rather take everyone down that cop their wack.

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Request for information, not dissimilar to a show cause and possibly part of a wider investigation.

Terribly written too. Wouldn't surprise me if Mark Robinson made the submission

Feel free to delete the thread or change the title if you want

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Ha What a joke. I think you have been Punk'd.

Investigate every club but Essendon!!

Has to have been put out by some feral Essendon muppet

I see Tracey Holmes, a "frothing at the mouth" Essendon-supporting journalist tweeted it. Not sure who it came from but I assume the club.

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I have always been puzzled by this:

4 According to the AFL October Statement:

(a) at least 12 AFL clubs conducted sports supplements programs ‘with medium or high levels of supplement use’;
(b) each of those twelve programs ‘lacked a single point of accountability’;
© documentation by AFL Clubs of player supplement use was ‘inadequate’;
(d) AFL Clubs employed ‘an inappropriate definition of supplements’;
(e) the selection processes of support personnel (in connection with the programs) was ‘flawed’; and
(f) the AFL concluded that numerous changes were required to the manner in which AFL Clubs implemented supplements programs, in order to attain the standards of ‘best medical practice and responsible club management’.

I assumed most every club was doing something similar to Essendon, so what has Essendon done that marks it as a team to prosecute?

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I have always been puzzled by this:

I assumed most every club was doing something similar to Essendon, so what has Essendon done that marks it as a team to prosecute?

Could be one of two things; they said they didn't know what they were giving the players, therefore putting them in potential harm, or they did know what they were giving them, knew that some of the drugs were experimental therefore putting the players in potential harm.

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I asked this question on another thread but did not get an answer. Was it not stated earlier this year that ASADA found Trengove had no case to answer over the foot cream issue? I believe that was our only named involvement in the matter,and, if so, then we are in the clear.

Is my memory correct in this?

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I have always been puzzled by this:

I assumed most every club was doing something similar to Essendon, so what has Essendon done that marks it as a team to prosecute?

The scope of practice.

Most AFL clubs were giving out protein shakes and have been for years. Most giving vitamins and maybe even injecting them - vitamin injections or infusions are actually a really good thing, instead of a tablet each day you just have it once and are set for the year. Some were trying more novel things, possibly like the AOD cream. And as it says their wasn't self regulation (or AFL regulation) on what to take and who controls the program (ie is it the doctor or sports science). The reality is though if it was all harmless stuff there isn't much of a problem.

Essendon though were running an injection program not seen anywhere else. They were using a bunch of drugs that weren't even clinically tested and approved for human use regardless of whether they were ASADA legal.

The other clubs had work to do to make sure they didn't endanger their players and they've done that work since. Essendon are completely different.

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NO other club was found to be in breach of AFL’s rules & regulations as per matters that saw Essendon investigated & sanctioned in Aug '13.

After the ACC report was released in 2013, the AFL Commission publicly said on Feb 7 '13 an audit would be held of all clubs across the AFL.

I asked this question on another thread but did not get an answer. Was it not stated earlier this year that ASADA found Trengove had no case to answer over the foot cream issue? I believe that was our only named involvement in the matter,and, if so, then we are in the clear.

Is my memory correct in this?

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The subject document is a quasi-Chewbacca Draft. It's occasionally clumsy and in parts just silly eg naming Robinson and Dank (IIRC) as "major actors" and referring to "Ian Robinson" when The Weapon's name is Dean. And so on. The request itself is anonymous. It's just a pile of crepe really.

Fairfax has reported the request as ridgy-didge:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/nine-afl-clubs-reported-to-workcover-20140617-zsb0k.html

LMFAO

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Fascinating that the request to prosecute states that Dank was employed by Melbourne and then 'subsequently' became involved with the Essendon program.

So, wrong on the count of employed by Melbourne ,and wrong on the count of sequence of events.

But this is the part that fascinates me most -

"In the circumstance potentially all - and no fewer than three - of the other Victorian AFL clubs, have, on the premises set out above, committed breaches of the Act."

It is such a tangibly desperate leap. And such an insight into the Essendon rationalisation/denial cycle.

"Other clubs had supplement programs, therefore they must also have used illegal performance enhancing substances"

It's the next defense of the Japanese whaling program - "Other countries have also harvested food from the oceans, therefore they should also be penalised for targeting endangered and protected species"

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Somewhat interesting no interstate clubs mentioned in that Age article. Thought perhaps the two Coastal Clubs might have been mentioned in dispatches.

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so many forces at work

game on....bring it

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