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AFL website reporting Lynch out for 6 weeks with a broken jaw.

You can almost see the stitch up coming. Viney to get three weeks.

Don't remember anyone getting weeks for breaking Viney's jaw in the vfl.... Or Sylvia's a few years earlier

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Don't remember anyone getting weeks for breaking Viney's jaw in the vfl.... Or Sylvia's a few years earlier

Wojo got suspended for that hit on Viney.

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His shoulder or head didnt connect with opponents head at any point. It was the the ricochet from a fair bump back into Georgeys head. Nothing in it... move on.

I think you have described it correctly. Probably only get 2 with an early plea! Knowing our luck.

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Don't remember anyone getting weeks for breaking Viney's jaw in the vfl.... Or Sylvia's a few years earlier

As Moonshadow said, Wojo got suspended for his hit.

Sylvia's was as you said "a few years ago"... At the time the rules were less about head high contact and you could've run him over (or any Dees player for that matter) with a bus on the field and the umps would've called play on.

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His shoulder or head didnt connect with opponents head at any point. It was the the ricochet from a fair bump back into Georgeys head. Nothing in it... move on.

Actually, if you look at the footage his shoulder does hit Lynch's head. The real question is whether they regard it as a bump or incidental contact while they are all going for the ball. Of course, going for the ball isn't a defence according to the Ziebel suspension.

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Just saw a replay. Vineys right shoulder to Lynch's jaw.

Hate to say it but he's cooked boys

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Three blokes going hell bent for the ball, awesome courageous footy we all love.


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As Moonshadow said, Wojo got suspended for his hit.

Sylvia's was as you said "a few years ago"... At the time the rules were less about head high contact and you could've run him over (or any Dees player for that matter) with a bus on the field and the umps would've called play on.

Happy to stand corrected. Must be that lingering sense of injustice from any number of incidents clouding my memory

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FAIR BUMP ... PLAY ON !

of course it was a fair bump, nothing will come of it

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Just saw a replay. Vineys right shoulder to Lynch's jaw.

Hate to say it but he's cooked boys

I intend to agree.

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yep we won and we are happy so viney will get rubbed out. But geez I hope not. It was a great contest. But they may look at the injury and figure someone must pay. I will be shattered if anything comes of it.

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Viney was tracking the ball back, and simply braced for impact.

His feet didn't leave the ground, and contact was unavoidable.

And the broken jaw appears to be on the RHS from impact with Georgio's head.

no issue, sh!t happens, fingers crossed.

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Eye for an eye at the MRP these days, even with honest incidents like these.

Congrats to Tex Walker for his grandstanding on Twitter too.


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Sadly, I think that's head-high contact right there.

True that is high but is that on first impact - he may have slipped down slightly after first impact (given that he was sandwiched)

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When you look at the slo-mo he is going to come under sever scrutiny. Hate to say it but the MRP after reviewing Nat Fyfe's shirt front on Rischetelli said if you chose to bump and the opponent receives contact to the head than you face the consequences.

The only way out is if tackling was not an option, Georgiou is laying a tackle as Lynch gathers the ball, at this point Viney turns and braces for impact, he keeps the shoulder in tight. At speed not much in it looks like a 3 way clash but when you slow it down JV could be in for some time off. Accidental contact to the head, high impact.

I hope he gets cleared but it will be severely scrutinised

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Just had a look on the AFL's crappy website, it was hard to tell but didn't even look like he hit him high, got him in the shoulder.

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It will be a looked at, Viney should be safe.

Vince also should be safe for his bump throughout the game

Oh well if you say so.

- Negligent (reckless if we are unlucky) 1 point

- Contact to the head - 2 points

- High Impact - 3 points

Total of 6 activation points is a level 3 offense = 3 week suspension down to 2 if he has a good record.

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I would say a lot depends on whether they view his action as a deliberate bump or bracing for the impact while going for the ball. As Stated above, they take the line that if a player chooses to bump and an injury results they will be suspended, so if they look at it from that side he may be in strife. If you watch the footage, he turns and braces a few steps before impact, so in slow motion it looks pretty premeditated and he certainly hist Lynch high with his shoulder. At full speed it looks a lot better for him because you can see the speed at which they are moving and how little time he had to register that the collision was coming and react.

I would say that if he played for a top side there would be nothing to worry about, but the tribunal has a history of coming down hard on players from the "weaker" clubs, also known as easy targets. Think back to Jack Zeibel getting three weeks for a totally legal attempt at the ball and Trengove's perfect tackle on Dangerfield which also copped three weeks. Based on that record I have a sad suspicion that they will look at this as an opportunity to show that they are coming down hard on dangerous play and will try to throw the book at him.

Look at the contact paused and you will see that the 195cms Lynch, drops lower at the moment of contact, after being pushed forward into Viney, bending his knees, and altering the position he would have been bumped. Without the push or Lynch lowering his height the bump is the standard shoulder to shoulder.

The problem here is that another player has pushed Lynch forward and Lynch himself has lowered his height. Neither of these is the fault of the player bumping.

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