Is Lucas' future cooked?

[old dee 23,787]

No wonder Carlton did so sh$t this year with BP as their opposition analyst.

Was probably telling Ratten that we would be playing Cook at CHF and that Eddie Bettes should play on him.

You he would have been half right EB would have toweled him up

[Demon Disciple 12,119]

No, because he needs to be de-listed first.

[Jack Jack 415]

Am I right in that he adds (if only in a minor way ) to the overall FA equation ?

We don't get any compo from delisted players if that's what you mean?

[Ouch! 2,262]

Am I right in that he adds (if only in a minor way ) to the overall FA equation ?

Apparently not, I think it says in that article, but I have read it elsewhere, players that are delisted are able to become free agents, but the club delisting them gets no compensation.,

Which you would imagine means that we would have tried shopping him around as a trade, no club is interested in 'paying' in the currency of picks or players....

[stinga81 210]

Sounds like he's found a bit of desire the past couple of weeks, this would've been handy about two years ago.

[Deers 202]

I'm not fussed whether we trade / delist Cook, I don't see it in him personally, but this pisses me off

It reads more like his manager pumping his tyres full of free publicity.

100% guarantee he still looks like a mouse and plays like one.

[old dee 23,787]

Apparently not, I think it says in that article, but I have read it elsewhere, players that are delisted are able to become free agents, but the club delisting them gets no compensation.,

Which you would imagine means that we would have tried shopping him around as a trade, no club is interested in 'paying' in the currency of picks or players....

So there are 17 others who think he is ordinary.

A rookie spot might be his only chance.

[darkhorse72 1,916]

just a pump up by his manager...i agree a rookie spot somewhere. Blaming the coach for a lack of ticker is not going to help. If he had the desire and work he would have got a debut.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

You are correct olisik.

However I think there is more than smoke in this one.

I am finding it hard to be concerned now

Just sits in my mind as the perfect example of the missed opportunities that happened as part of the Bailey and BP era.

we mostly blew 4 years away for very little.

They got stuck in to us didn't they Old?

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

This hurts. A lot.

2010 National Draft

1. David Swallow (Gold Coast, 33 games)

2. Harley Bennell (Gold Coast, 36)

3. Sam Day (Gold Coat, 22)

4. Andrew Gaff (West Coast, 41)

5. Jared Polec (Brisbane, 15)

6. Reece Conca (Richmond, 35)

7. Josh Caddy (Gold Coast/Geelong, 24)

8. Dyson Heppell (Essendon, 43)

9. Dion Prestia (Gold Coast, 31)

10. Daniel Gorringe (Gold Coast, 8)

11. Tom Lynch (Gold Coast, 12)

12. Lucas Cook (Melbourne, 0)

13. Seb Tape (Gold Coast, 23)

14. Brodie Smith (Adelaide, 36)

15. Billie Smedts (Geelong, 14)

[old dee 23,787]

They got stuck in to us didn't they Old?

yes RobbieF

But you know I rcekon it is all the fault of of our poor culture and lack of development.

If we just keep him another year or two he might make it back to the Casey firsts and perhaps a MFC game in 2014.

[beelzebub 23,350]

Apparently not, I think it says in that article, but I have read it elsewhere, players that are delisted are able to become free agents, but the club delisting them gets no compensation.,

Which you would imagine means that we would have tried shopping him around as a trade, no club is interested in 'paying' in the currency of picks or players....

Cheers.

[beelzebub 23,350]

We don't get any compo from delisted players if that's what you mean?

Cheers

[P-man 13,366]

This hurts. A lot.

2010 National Draft

1. David Swallow (Gold Coast, 33 games)

2. Harley Bennell (Gold Coast, 36)

3. Sam Day (Gold Coat, 22)

4. Andrew Gaff (West Coast, 41)

5. Jared Polec (Brisbane, 15)

6. Reece Conca (Richmond, 35)

7. Josh Caddy (Gold Coast/Geelong, 24)

8. Dyson Heppell (Essendon, 43)

9. Dion Prestia (Gold Coast, 31)

10. Daniel Gorringe (Gold Coast, 8)

11. Tom Lynch (Gold Coast, 12)

12. Lucas Cook (Melbourne, 0)

13. Seb Tape (Gold Coast, 23)

14. Brodie Smith (Adelaide, 36)

15. Billie Smedts (Geelong, 14)

It does hurt a bit, but the picks between 12 and 33 (Howe) aren't brimming with superstars, particularly of the KPF mould, Darling aside (who everyone else passed on as well).

We got T Mac at 53, so to me that almost evens it out.

Edited October 11, 2012 by P_Man

[H_T 3,043]

It does hurt a bit, but the picks between 12 and 33 (Howe) aren't brimming with superstars, particularly of the KPF mould, Darling aside (who everyone else passed on as well).

We got T Mac at 53, so to me that almost evens it out.

T Mac is a good get at 53.

[old dee 23,787]

It does hurt a bit, but the picks between 12 and 33 (Howe) aren't brimming with superstars, particularly of the KPF mould, Darling aside (who everyone else passed on as well).

We got T Mac at 53, so to me that almost evens it out.

Sorry to disagree P_Man

But I reckon when the players picked at 13, 14 and 15 have all played double digit games and our number 12 pick struggles to hold his place in the Casey seniors

Let alone score a MFc game when had a long list of injuries and no forwards to the point we were playing Rivers Forward

Then we have an epic fail on our hands, no amount of selections after that makes up for it.

DB and BP took a big gamble and it failed in the largest possible way.

I am not having a go at you but I get very tired of the excuse 17 other teams passed on JD.

I think the more appropriate thing is 11 other clubs thought Cook was not a round 1 selection

[P-man 13,366]

Sorry to disagree P_Man

But I reckon when the players picked at 13, 14 and 15 have all played double digit games and our number 12 pick struggles to hold his place in the Casey seniors

Let alone score a MFc game when had a long list of injuries and no forwards to the point we were playing Rivers Forward

Then we have an epic fail on our hands, no amount of selections after that makes up for it.

DB and BP took a big gamble and it failed in the largest possible way.

I am not having a go at you but I get very tired of the excuse 17 other teams passed on JD.

I think the more appropriate thing is 11 other clubs thought Cook was not a round 1 selection

I don't disagree OD. It was a bad one, there's no doubting that. My only point was I don't look at the list of players taken afterward and see alot standouts. At a glance, Smedts, Atley, Isaac Smith, Cripps and Darling are probably the pick of the litter. It sucks, but it could've been worse.

[jnrmac 20,058]

He ain't 91kgs as they say in the article. He's about 43kgs I reckon.

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

Lets not forget. It is not Lucas' fault that he was picked at 12.

But the fact he has put on kg's lately to "get back at the MFC" is extreme poor form on his part.

We paid him good coin for 2 years.

[ignition. 1,466]

If he didn't come up to your expectation fair enough....But never call a player at the Melb Footy club a "maggot"....Get over yourself....He is a young man who has struggled...but a :maggot....Jezzz....

Calling a Melbourne player a maggot on this board not only breaks the code of conduct but is a weak and pathetic act. You need to think carefully before you write as what you have delivered is offensive and much more.

Yes true, I'm sorry if I offended anyone and maggot was a bit too far. I did get a little carried away directly after reading the article to hear he is now desperate to prove the club wrong by finally working very hard to gain 3 kg in the off season, although thinking this dedication should of been shown at the start of the year. I will be more than happy to delete the post.

EDIT: It also grinds my gears to think it was this club that gave him his first opportunity, knowing they have given him every chance to succeed, paid him a decent wage when yet he never really delivered. Even at Casey.

Edited October 11, 2012 by ignition.

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Thanks for your apology Ignition. I respect the fact that you did that. Shows something to do that. Cheers.

Yes true, I'm sorry if I offended anyone and maggot was a bit too far. I did get a little carried away directly after reading the article to hear he is now desperate to prove the club wrong by finally working very hard to gain 3 kg in the off season, although thinking this dedication should of been shown at the start of the year. I will be more than happy to delete the post.

[old dee 23,787]

Yes true, I'm sorry if I offended anyone and maggot was a bit too far. I did get a little carried away directly after reading the article to hear he is now desperate to prove the club wrong by finally working very hard to gain 3 kg in the off season, although thinking this dedication should of been shown at the start of the year. I will be more than happy to delete the post.

EDIT: It also grinds my gears to think it was this club that gave him his first opportunity, knowing they have given him every chance to succeed, paid him a decent wage when yet he never really delivered. Even at Casey.

Good reply ignition.

We all make errors it is not always easy to admit them.

Hang in there.

[demonchris 162]

IMO he may of found the switch from junior footy to senior footy very difficult. He is still a young man who is still developing. I think there is hope for him still. I hope we keep him, however that seems unlikely... he is showing the dedication now that will make him an afl player and I for one am happy for him.

[angrydee 842]

So he's put 3kgs - oooh, let's denigrate him for working hard. FFS he came as a 76Kg 196 cm kid. So he's put 14kgs on in 2 years. So 3kg is not so strange in the scheme of things an d does not indicate either an increase or decrease of desire to play AFL.

I believe his delisting will depend on our trading in a tall or two.

[skills32 229]

Could be a statement coming from the football Dept. shortly, saying he is a wanted player.

The agent might have been put up to this, just to put out a feeler.

Why..... a trade for draft picks is better than a delisting; for the club and the player.