Training - Monday 14 November, 2011

[Lutz 76]

Boys are out at Gosch's Paddock again this morning.

Pulled over to have a little look.

A lot of ball work early from what I saw.

Nathan Jones and Nicholson were at the front of all the running.

Chunk looks in supreme fitness.

Those that think he has relatively plateaud as a player will be in for a surprise, I think.

We'll be singing his praises for a while to come.

[hardtack 10,449]

I get the feeling that Jones is a bit of a gym junkie when he is not out surfing (if his tweets are anything to go by). I keep saying it (and keep getting laughed at for it), but I think he is our "Chapman" for more reasons than the lack of hair style. As his kicking for goal improves and as he makes more forays into the forward 50, the similarities will become more and more apparent.

[Sir Why You Little 36,800]

I get the feeling that Jones is a bit of a gym junkie when he is not out surfing (if his tweets are anything to go by). I keep saying it (and keep getting laughed at for it), but I think he is our "Chapman" for more reasons than the lack of hair style. As his kicking for goal improves and as he makes more forays into the forward 50, the similarities will become more and more apparent.

would love to see Chunk kick game changing goals. No reason why he can't.

[Chook 15,001]

Chunk looks in supreme fitness.

Those that think he has relatively plateaud as a player will be in for a surprise, I think.

We'll be singing his praises for a while to come.

I for one won't be one of those who are surprised when Jonesy turns it on next year.

[Daz's Dee's 113]

Yep agree with everyone above. Jones continually gets bagged on this forum and I just don't understand why, he may not have the silkiest skills or be the fastest player in the comp but he certainly gives his all week in week out which IMO is most important

[H_T 3,043]

Yep agree with everyone above. Jones continually gets bagged on this forum and I just don't understand why, he may not have the silkiest skills or be the fastest player in the comp but he certainly gives his all week in week out which IMO is most important

I think you've partly answered your own question. It's these areas I hope to see improvement. He was a consistent contributor in 2011 without starring. He does give his all but what has been the bug bear of mine is he needs to execute better with his delivery. If he does this he will be a very good contributor.

Fwiw, many refer to it as bagging, but for many it's being critical in areas that can be improved on. He may not be A grade class, but he can execute better to become a good B grade player.

Getting the fastest time at Princess Park may be considered elite endurance, but it doesn't necessarily get you to the ball first, execute well or get you the 4 points. That may seem mean to a few....but it's November.

Edited November 14, 2011 by H_T
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[Chook 15,001]

I think you've partly answered your own question. It's these areas I hope to see improvement. He was a consistent contributor in 2011 without starring. He does give his all but what has been the bug bear of mine is he needs to execute better with his delivery. If he does this he will be a very good contributor.

Fwiw, many refer to it as bagging, but for many it's being critical in areas that can be improved on. He may not be A grade class, but he can execute better to become a good B grade player.

Getting the fastest time at Princess Park may be considered elite endurance, but it doesn't necessarily get you to the ball first, execute well or get you the 4 points. That may seem mean to a few....but it's November.

While what you've said is true, I (and others) feel that Nathan Jones has improved in all the areas you've mentioned every year since he was drafted. Continual improvement is the key to success, IMO.

[Demon3 2,541]

Yep agree with everyone above. Jones continually gets bagged on this forum and I just don't understand why, he may not have the silkiest skills or be the fastest player in the comp but he certainly gives his all week in week out which IMO is most important

You cant deny his effort and commitment, he gives everything which is great i agree and i love him for it. But, when you break it down, his skill, and decision making lets us down very often, which hurts the team more.

[H_T 3,043]

While what you've said is true, I (and others) feel that Nathan Jones has improved in all the areas you've mentioned every year since he was drafted. Continual improvement is the key to success, IMO.

I think he has gradually improved also. That's not to say there isn't room for more.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,664]

If data were kept on "getting caught with the ball", I think we'd see how he's gradually improved over the years.

Also gets points for durability. My recollection is that he has missed very few games due to either injury or poor form.

[Robbie57 2,014]

One of my favourite players, prepared to work and learn.

[Redleg 40,623]

Yep agree with everyone above. Jones continually gets bagged on this forum and I just don't understand why, he may not have the silkiest skills or be the fastest player in the comp but he certainly gives his all week in week out which IMO is most important

Couldn't agree more.

[Jonesy!!! 27]

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[hardtack 10,449]

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A white silouette?... actually, now the arrow is making more sense :-)

Edited November 14, 2011 by hardtack

[H_T 3,043]

One of my favourite players, prepared to work and learn.

Indeed.

[Mono 455]

Any comments on the training session? Nothing but Jones so far.

[DeeZee 7,361]

Any one got a report on the actual session?

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I think you've partly answered your own question. It's these areas I hope to see improvement. He was a consistent contributor in 2011 without starring. He does give his all but what has been the bug bear of mine is he needs to execute better with his delivery. If he does this he will be a very good contributor.

Fwiw, many refer to it as bagging, but for many it's being critical in areas that can be improved on. He may not be A grade class, but he can execute better to become a good B grade player.

Getting the fastest time at Princess Park may be considered elite endurance, but it doesn't necessarily get you to the ball first, execute well or get you the 4 points. That may seem mean to a few....but it's November.

I agree with that Nathan puts in 100% eveery week but he has a problem of continually making the wrong decisions and turning back in to trouble. If he would take the first option instead of hanging on to the ball waiting for something else he would improve enormously. He has to stop trying to break through tackles because he usually gets caught when he does.

[hardtack 10,449]

I agree with that Nathan puts in 100% eveery week but he has a problem of continually making the wrong decisions and turning back in to trouble. If he would take the first option instead of hanging on to the ball waiting for something else he would improve enormously. He has to stop trying to break through tackles because he usually gets caught when he does.

In all fairness, I feel that he was often left holding the ball because there simply was no option available to him... he was not getting the support he needed. This is one area I hope that Neeld will identify as requiring a lot of improvement... greater support and running options for players like Jones to clear the ball to.

Edited November 14, 2011 by hardtack

[McQueen 17,864]

I agree with that Nathan puts in 100% eveery week but he has a problem of continually making the wrong decisions and turning back in to trouble. If he would take the first option instead of hanging on to the ball waiting for something else he would improve enormously. He has to stop trying to break through tackles because he usually gets caught when he does.

He wasn't on his lonesome in that regard this year. I think it has a fair bit to do with composure that you get from having a general confidence in the rest of your team mates and that of a structured game plan to play by. If you don't have these two critical things, you're always blazing away your kicks.

[Vagg 2,437]

Any one got a report on the actual session?

"Jones trained well..." LOL

[Grimes is Great 183]

where is the best place to park for sessions at Gosch's Paddock?

[DeeZee 7,361]

"Jones trained well..." LOL

Ha Ha!

[Deestroy All 14,262]

All this talk about Jones and no one mentions his missed tackles? Cardinal sin and the most frustrating thing about him. Pun alert: his arms are painted on.

[DeeSpencer 25,203]

Jones is a good inside/outside depth midfielder. He doesn't have the speed or marking ability to be Chapman. A fit Sylvia can be Chapman.

For all those predicting a huge increase in form, maybe they should consider he's been one of our better trainers for years now. He'll be good next year, just as he was this year, but I wouldn't expect miraculous improvement.