Watts v Hurley

[btdemon 475]

Stumbled on this the other day.

http://www.heraldsun...d-1226038084647

The article was written not long after Essendon had belted us in the pre-season comp and Hurley was having a great patch. It would be interesting to see what the poll result would be if taken at the end of 2011. I suspect much more even.

[Guest Checker]

Hurley is the better player right now, hands down.

Can't wait to see Jack Watts in 2012 with another pre-season under his belt.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I'm really pleased we picked Watts. He will hopefully be one of the great MFC players in due course.

That said, I have always thought, if we didn't pick Watts, Hurley was the player we should've drafted - not NikNat.

[Sir Why You Little 35,273]

I am hoping that Mitch Clark now in our forward line will be a huge factor in Charlie Watts becoming the gun player we all want him to be. Watts should now be able to be far more creative.

Edited November 6, 2011 by why you little

[H_T 2,941]

Mark Robinson was the one salivating after that game. So much so, he wanted to run with it on the back page that day. All said and done, I think Brereton's thoughts in that article on Watts will come to fruition.

Previous threads:

http://demonland.com...__fromsearch__1

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25301-watts-v-hurley/page__hl__%2Bwatts+%2Bhurley__fromsearch__1

Edited November 6, 2011 by H_T
added links

[Josh 1,420]

"Hurley steams at every contest, as if believing the match depends on him winning or losing at that moment.

That competitiveness cannot be taught.

James Frawley has it, so does Kieren Jack, so does Buddy Franklin. It's called intensity."

what a great comment, its so true...

just waiting for the day jack watts kicks 5 or 6 and wins the game for us and sees that he can do it, and i think it will come. would love to have hurley am a big fan of his but watts is better

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,559]

Hurley is better than Watts as of today. How could you argue otherwise?

[Daz's Dee's 113]

Completely different players Hurley is a crashing hard CHF (or CHB) very similar to Neatz except his kicking ability both sides of the body from a distance. Watts is more an athletic type maybe (but far from the same) as an Adam goodes can probably play most positions best suited up the ground or half forward flank as a younger player and can see him spending more time forward as his body matures. Watts to be the overall better player IMO but bombers have a gem no doubt would love both in our team

[Daz's Dee's 113]

Stupid iPhone "Neitz" I mean

[Guest Thomo]

Hurley reminds me of Neitz, good honest player, good club man, but missing the game winning ability that very good players have, and very overated by his supporters.

Watts will be a taller James Hird. Will go close to being the best player in the AFL, much better player than Neitz/Hurley.

[Yoda 33]

Hurley had a marginally better season than Watts but in patches Watts played at a level beyond what Hurley is capable of.

Watts will end up the better player.

Edited November 6, 2011 by Yoda

[deeflog 679]

As we speak Hurley is the better player, by round 12 Watts will catch up to Hurley, by round 22 Watts will be a far better player than Hurley can and will be

[45HG 1,539]

If it came to a decision between Watts and Hurley I'd choose Watts every day and twice on Sunday.

[Dan Fantastik 50]

Pity Hurley wont be playing for Essendon after next year though, ay Robbo?

Once Jack builds up his body and confidence we will see what he is capable of.

Not taking anything away for Hurley though, he is going to be a gun.

[Young Dee 1,303]

Bump

[Ted Lasso 17,234]

Right now, Watts by a mile.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,994]

I think the Watts bashers of yore are sitting quietly and hoping they aren't forced to eat their words these days. He's coming along nicely.

[What 18,810]

Has this same convo the other day with an Essendon supporter.

Even he admitted that Watts has caught up to Hurley, and will probably go past him in 2013.

[Ted Lasso 17,234]

I really hope we are able to hold on to Watts, i'm not sure how likely that is but if we could keep him i would be stoked

[titan_uranus 22,963]

Bump

Why?

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Has this same convo the other day with an Essendon supporter.

Even he admitted that Watts has caught up to Hurley, and will probably go past him in 2013.

will go past Naitanui also, making a mockery of about 100,000 douchebags that have endlessly flapped their gums since 2009

[fredblackham 17]

Player Statistics Comparison Jack Watts Name Michael Hurley Melbourne Demons Team Essendon Bombers Defender, Forward Position Forward 67 Career Games 76 Sandringham Dragons Origin Northern Knights March 26, 1991 Date of Birth June 1, 1990 22yr 4mth Age 23yr 1mth 196cm Height 195cm 88kg Weight 97kg 2008 National Draft Last Drafted In 2008 National Draft Round 1, Pick #1 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #5 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Essendon Bombers 2013 Stats for Season 2013 12 Games 13 8.2 Kicks Per Game 7.5 6.2 Handballs Per Game 5.0 14.4 Disposals Per Game 12.5 5.2 Marks Per Game 4.6 1.0 Goals Per Game 1.2 0.8 Behinds Per Game 0.8 1.4 Tackles Per Game 0.5 0.5 Hitouts Per Game 0 1.1 Inside 50s Per Game 2.5 0.4 Goal Assists Per Game 1.0 0.4 Frees For Per Game 0.8 0.9 Frees Against Per Game 0.4 5.8 Contested Possessions Per Game 5.5 8.5 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 7.5 10.9 Effective Disposals Per Game 8.7 75.7% Effective Disposals % Per Game 69.6% 1.9 Clangers Per Game 1.5 0.7 Contested Marks Per Game 0.8 1.3 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 1.8 0.6 Clearances Per Game 0.1 1.8 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.2 1.8 One Percenters Per Game 2.1 0.2 Bounces Per Game 0 Player Statistics Comparison Jack Watts Name Michael Hurley Melbourne Demons Team Essendon Bombers Defender, Forward Position Forward 67 Career Games 76 Sandringham Dragons Origin Northern Knights March 26, 1991 Date of Birth June 1, 1990 22yr 4mth Age 23yr 1mth 196cm Height 195cm 88kg Weight 97kg 2008 National Draft Last Drafted In 2008 National Draft Round 1, Pick #1 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #5 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Essendon Bombers Career Stats for Season Career 67 Games 76 8.6 Kicks Per Game 8.6 6.6 Handballs Per Game 5.8 15.3 Disposals Per Game 14.4 5.2 Marks Per Game 5.2 0.7 Goals Per Game 1.2 0.4 Behinds Per Game 0.9 1.6 Tackles Per Game 1.0 0.4 Hitouts Per Game 0.1 0.7 Frees For Per Game 0.9 0.9 Frees Against Per Game 0.5

[BAMF 3,812]

Why?

Why not?

Hurley was ready made and produced early and was touted as 'THE NEXT BIG THING' in the Hereld Sun. He is not much better now than the day he was drafted.

Watts has improved big time, and while he still has me shaking my head sometimes, he looks like he might actually make improvement into the player we thought he might be.

At the moment Ollie Wines is making most of wish we drafted him. Maybe we should be patient with Toumpas and not bag the [censored] out of him at every chance?

[DeeMfc 621]

Why not?

Hurley was ready made and produced early and was touted as 'THE NEXT BIG THING' in the Hereld Sun. He is not much better now than the day he was drafted.

Watts has improved big time, and while he still has me shaking my head sometimes, he looks like he might actually make improvement into the player we thought he might be.

At the moment Ollie Wines is making most of wish we drafted him. Maybe we should be patient with Toumpas and not bag the [censored] out of him at every chance?

Nail-On-Head

[Little Richard 5,910]

Player Statistics Comparison Jack Watts Name Michael Hurley Melbourne Demons Team Essendon Bombers Defender, Forward Position Forward 67 Career Games 76 Sandringham Dragons Origin Northern Knights March 26, 1991 Date of Birth June 1, 1990 22yr 4mth Age 23yr 1mth 196cm Height 195cm 88kg Weight 97kg 2008 National Draft Last Drafted In 2008 National Draft Round 1, Pick #1 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #5 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Essendon Bombers 2013 Stats for Season 2013 12 Games 13 8.2 Kicks Per Game 7.5 6.2 Handballs Per Game 5.0 14.4 Disposals Per Game 12.5 5.2 Marks Per Game 4.6 1.0 Goals Per Game 1.2 0.8 Behinds Per Game 0.8 1.4 Tackles Per Game 0.5 0.5 Hitouts Per Game 0 1.1 Inside 50s Per Game 2.5 0.4 Goal Assists Per Game 1.0 0.4 Frees For Per Game 0.8 0.9 Frees Against Per Game 0.4 5.8 Contested Possessions Per Game 5.5 8.5 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 7.5 10.9 Effective Disposals Per Game 8.7 75.7% Effective Disposals % Per Game 69.6% 1.9 Clangers Per Game 1.5 0.7 Contested Marks Per Game 0.8 1.3 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 1.8 0.6 Clearances Per Game 0.1 1.8 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.2 1.8 One Percenters Per Game 2.1 0.2 Bounces Per Game 0 Player Statistics Comparison Jack Watts Name Michael Hurley Melbourne Demons Team Essendon Bombers Defender, Forward Position Forward 67 Career Games 76 Sandringham Dragons Origin Northern Knights March 26, 1991 Date of Birth June 1, 1990 22yr 4mth Age 23yr 1mth 196cm Height 195cm 88kg Weight 97kg 2008 National Draft Last Drafted In 2008 National Draft Round 1, Pick #1 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #5 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Essendon Bombers Career Stats for Season Career 67 Games 76 8.6 Kicks Per Game 8.6 6.6 Handballs Per Game 5.8 15.3 Disposals Per Game 14.4 5.2 Marks Per Game 5.2 0.7 Goals Per Game 1.2 0.4 Behinds Per Game 0.9 1.6 Tackles Per Game 1.0 0.4 Hitouts Per Game 0.1 0.7 Frees For Per Game 0.9 0.9 Frees Against Per Game 0.5

I appreciate stats, especially in this easy-to-read format.