If Nathan Jones goes...

[titan_uranus 22,788]

I really believe he can be in our best 22, never shirks a contest plays with his heart on his sleeve.

So does Cheney, but there aren't many who think he's a best 22 player.

Face it, people. Jones is just average. Losing him would be far from the end of the world.

[Mono 454]

Should surprise no-one. We have surplus, quality, young mids and more coming through. There aint room for all.

You can probably add Morton to any speculation.

AND, NO, I am not suggesting Jones (or any other) should be traded. But there will be rationalising of some sort. No doubt. More likely the odd player will be asking to be traded if they think their future at MFC is in the balance, and there are better opportunities elsewhere. (eg McLean)

Interesting times.

[45HG 1,539]

My thinking on this is that there are other guys to go from our list before Jones, so there'd have to be some fair benefit for us to move him

on this season.

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

I don't think the FD are stupid. If we traded Jones, it would be for something that we wanted- a good decent pick, or a player we need in return.

[Nasher 33,166]

I can only assume those of you who would keep Jones at all costs were also very happy with how the Ryan Ferguson / Brad Sewell non-trade played out?

After all, Ferguson was a player who tried very hard and bled for the club, as was evidenced by the fact that he begged the senior coach at the time not to trade him (who subsequently caved - nice one).

[Mono 454]

I can only assume those of you who would keep Jones at all costs were also very happy with how the Ryan Ferguson / Brad Sewell non-trade played out?

After all, Ferguson was a player who tried very hard and bled for the club, as was evidenced by the fact that he begged the senior coach at the time not to trade him (who subsequently caved - nice one).

I thought is was more that Ferguson didn't agree to the trade. And as both players have to agree (Sewell did ), the trade fell over.

[Guest watts04]

If Jones goes, we have Tappy and McKenzie to step up, plus already Moloney is our one paced midfielder

If someone offers u a second, maybe third round pick for him id consider him gone I think

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I love the way Jones applies himself but I've never seen a top line player make as many bad/wrong decisions as he does so you have to assume that he's not a top line player. He goes left when he should go right, he goes back when he should go forward, he still thinks he is playing underage football where he can burst through the tackle with his strength, but he isn't and he can't.

Up to last year he was the most tackled player in the competition and the reason for that is he hangs on to the ball too long.

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

watched the swans play carlton today, thought to myself wheres brock, injured? just heard on sen playing bullants next weekend . was untouchable two years ago. bailey has a plan and hes sticking to it.

[TheDevilsAdvocate 1]

This is just staggering stuff. His disposal, particularly by foot, was second only this year to Aaron Davey. With daylight to the rest. There also seems to be this hangover impression that he gets caught with the ball. This year, almost never. His ability to make the right decision with the ball, was, and I reiterate THIS year, as he has vastly improved, the best of the midfield. The FD realise this, and I'd be stunned if they moved him on.

finally someone on this forum sees the reality. Jones gets the toughest gig week after week tagging the opps' best onballer. He played his best when Baloney was injured and he was able to get the ball and use it. As for his disposal, I saw him do some daisy cutters this season that most of other Dees onballers (Davey excepted) can only dream about. Stop looking at stats. When you get the ball you can either chip it 20 meters sideways or try and hit a more difficult target. That's why Davey and Jones make more mistakes than those who only chip it sideways. (best example, our recently retired (and Danihers love child) Nathan Brown. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but try to base them on what happens on field and not stats or observations of media nuff nuffs eg Walls, Sheahan, Darcy etc.

[BAMF 3,810]

This is just staggering stuff. His disposal, particularly by foot, was second only this year to Aaron Davey. With daylight to the rest. There also seems to be this hangover impression that he gets caught with the ball. This year, almost never. His ability to make the right decision with the ball, was, and I reiterate THIS year, as he has vastly improved, the best of the midfield. The FD realise this, and I'd be stunned if they moved him on.

Seriously. If he was the 2nd best kick in our team then this thread would not exist because we would have renewed his contract a long time ago.

[daisycutter 28,691]

Seriously. If he was the 2nd best kick in our team then this thread would not exist because we would have renewed his contract a long time ago.

I can only find 4 I'd rate as "good" - DAVEY, GREEN, JURRAH and SYLVIA

Its a major problem if we want to be a contender

Edited September 5, 2010 by daisycutter

[Grandson of a gun 276]

Those same people calling for him to be traded are the same people that bleat about our midfield being constantly outmuscled and beaten at the contests and clearances.

Whilst he may not be in the best 22 down the track, until we get 2 or 3 pre-seasons into Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, McKenzie, Blease et al, then we need players with his size and strength still.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Those same people calling for him to be traded are the same people that bleat about our midfield being constantly outmuscled and beaten at the contests and clearances.

And he's part of that too.

[dee-luded 2,958]

I don't think the FD are stupid. If we traded Jones, it would be for something that we wanted- a good decent pick, or a player we need in return.

Jones for Rhys Stanley, McEvoy or Lynch.

[Green Machine 63]

I Love Nate Jones!!!!!

[DemonSG 1]

I Love Nate Jones!!!!!

Nasher have you closed this topic???

[DemonSG 1]

Those same people calling for him to be traded are the same people that bleat about our midfield being constantly outmuscled and beaten at the contests and clearances.

Whilst he may not be in the best 22 down the track, until we get 2 or 3 pre-seasons into Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, McKenzie, Blease et al, then we need players with his size and strength still.

could not agree more which is what this thread is all about, we need Jones at least for the short term.

Don't think Nasher is liking the topic though hence the needling!

[DemonSG 1]

I can only assume those of you who would keep Jones at all costs were also very happy with how the Ryan Ferguson / Brad Sewell non-trade played out?

After all, Ferguson was a player who tried very hard and bled for the club, as was evidenced by the fact that he begged the senior coach at the time not to trade him (who subsequently caved - nice one).

Nasher, you need to read carefully, no one said at all costs keep Jones, and may I ask, is it on record that Fergie BEGGED to be kept on the list! Don't recall that one.

[Hannabal 4]

finally someone on this forum sees the reality. Jones gets the toughest gig week after week tagging the opps' best onballer. He played his best when Baloney was injured and he was able to get the ball and use it. As for his disposal, I saw him do some daisy cutters this season that most of other Dees onballers (Davey excepted) can only dream about. Stop looking at stats. When you get the ball you can either chip it 20 meters sideways or try and hit a more difficult target. That's why Davey and Jones make more mistakes than those who only chip it sideways. (best example, our recently retired (and Danihers love child) Nathan Brown. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but try to base them on what happens on field and not stats or observations of media nuff nuffs eg Walls, Sheahan, Darcy etc.

You must be baffled by his B&F rating.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

This may seem an odd question, but what is the basis for this thread? I've been looking at the papers and the AFL site, even Jones' twitter page, and there is no mention of him being traded. Has this all come from one poster's fevered imagination?

[ox_5 163]

This may seem an odd question, but what is the basis for this thread? I've been looking at the papers and the AFL site, even Jones' twitter page, and there is no mention of him being traded. Has this all come from one poster's fevered imagination?

It has come from a stupid rumour by Damien Barrett on the footy show Thursday night.

No proof or anything of the like, just a comment because he had no other real news.

During the same segment he said Andrew Walker was out of contract and looking gold coast bound...turns out he isn't out of contract at all. Quality journalist that Barrett.

[H_T 2,941]

I'm surprised you're still here.

Aren't we all. Gone, then has come back...now threatening to go again if Jones goes.

This guy has already "quit" Demonland once (had his account removed and everything) - but he seems to be back, so...

and so??

so if you go again...will you be back again after flipping out ? You make Copperfield look like an amateur.

[Radar Detector 1,339]

I think that we can't really evaluate whether trading any player (not just Jones) is a good or bad idea until we know what we might be getting in return. The club would be irresponsible not to listen to offers on any player that came up in trade talks. However some of the inconsistencies in opinion on here frustrate me a little. We have two players on our list currently in our best 22 who are one paced, perceived to have average disposal and bleed for the club. Both have a 2nd placing in the B&F on their CV but one is 22 and the other 26. Can you pick which one people are advocating to trade and which one people are advocating for captain? Not saying either is necessarily right or wrong but the double standards surprise.

And people are getting a bit ahead of themselves saying our flag winning midfield contains gysberts, tapscott, blease etc. They've played a collective total of three games.

[Tricky 337]

Aren't we all. Gone, then has come back...now threatening to go again if Jones goes.

so if you go again...will you be back again after flipping out ? You make Copperfield look like an amateur.

Great use of your admin powers there HT. Are you by chance profiling members? Is this a particular grudge of yours or do you just check for dirt on all posters?

I better watch my back