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21 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Happy to flop them on the table with this bloke. 

Will be elite. 

 

Doesn't get it enough yet, but yesterday was arguably his best game in the jumper. I loved him last year, but struggled (albeit due to injury interruption) early this season. Wasn't entirely sure whether he would make that elite category or even stay on the park, but yesterday's return has me excited again.

Viney, Brayshaw, Oliver, Petracca, Tyson, with outside support from Stretch and further inside and outside play from Prestia ( ;) ) and we'll have a seriously exciting midfield. They'll certainly know how to win a clearance. It's refreshing to have guys that can win clearances.

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I'm going to take a slightly opposing view - I think he's going to be a good player, not a great player.

 

Hope I'm wrong.

 

Looks like McLean and Trengove prior to their injury woes - hopefully a good 200-game foot soldier who'll have the occasional outstanding game but will never be consistently outstanding, if that makes sense.

 

Needs to play consistently tho, something that McLean and Trengove were never able to do.

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1 hour ago, Demonsterative said:

Slightly over rated IMO.  Will be a soldier and a very good to good player, but won't reach elite status. He doesn't have one area in his game that is special. Not fast, disposals are ok/good, not a great mark for a tallish mid, not a goal kicker, therefore he is a midfielder only. One dimensional. 

I was surprised by his lack of awareness yesterday. At times he had 5 St Kilda players chasing/around him and he was oblivious and was caught easily. I only hope this means he is adjusting to AFL level after a lengthy break. 

 

 

We have some of the worst supporters.  Give the kids sometime to develop 

You're saying based on 1 game he won't be elite.  He has played 20 games of football.  Will be a star!!!! 

 

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Things happen when he has the ball. Simple as that. He's still an incredibly exciting prospect. Such a typical Melbourne supporter attitude to criticise a high draft pick 25 games who has been hit heavily with injury and concussion this year.

Watch the Geelong game from last year to remind yourself of how good he's going to be.

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Based on what I've seen to date this year, we do not have a gun player and because of the way the team is going, we do not look likely that we will have one in 2017 either.

The closest to a gun is Max.

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2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

We have some of the worst supporters.  Give the kids sometime to develop 

You're saying based on 1 game he won't be elite.  He has played 20 games of football.  Will be a star!!!! 

Poor post. You can't blame supporters for being gun-shy having seen so many failures. What's more, you can't lampoon a poster for saying Gus won't be elite because he's only played 20 games of football and then in the same post say he'll be a star based off the same output. That's farcical. 

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28 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Based on what I've seen to date this year, we do not have a gun player and because of the way the team is going, we do not look likely that we will have one in 2017 either.

The closest to a gun is Max.

Viney and Maxy are both elite. 

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Very strange goings-on on these shocking facebook groups and threads. Some buffoon saying he had a bad game? I know he made a couple of blues late, but before that he had a few plays where I remarked he looked like last year's Gus. Even found a fair bit of the pill in patches and seemed to be moving really well. I'm on the Trengove is done bandwagon, and this seemed completely different to me. A player on the up who's had most of a season away.

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His first quarter was excellent yesterday. I know he's a million miles off this level but he reminded me a little bit of Scott Pendlebury with his lateral movement and the way he made his way through traffic. Another six games this year to pick up the speed at the top level and a huge pre-season should set Gus up for a huge 2017.

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Brayshaw is a Rolls Royce and I feel for supporters that don't have the ability to see class when it's smacking them in the face.  Someone is even insinuating he's slow.  Good God.

This 20 year old 25 game player will be an emerging star of the game when he's played 100 games and is 24.  He has genuine talent in close, can break away on smart angles and use it superbly off both feet.  He's exceptionally tough and good overhead.  He's everything you want in a midfielder.  Until a player has 30 games under their belt they're really just feeling their way, but some of the things this guy does at his age smacks of a future star.

He, Viney and Oliver will all be better players than Nathan Jones, so the platform for a strong midfield is well and truly in place.  

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12 hours ago, Demonsterative said:

Slightly over rated IMO.  Will be a soldier and a very good to good player, but won't reach elite status. He doesn't have one area in his game that is special. Not fast, disposals are ok/good, not a great mark for a tallish mid, not a goal kicker, therefore he is a midfielder only. One dimensional. 

Like Boak and Mundy?

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7 hours ago, Mach5 said:

I missed the 1st quarter.

Seems like this is what has impressed everyone so much.
Based on the rest of the game that I saw, he was off the pace a bit.

  Even being off the pace, his 23 touches and 7 clearances were both career highs.  After  a long layoff with concussion issues it was a fine return.

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18 hours ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

Doesn't get it enough yet, but yesterday was arguably his best game in the jumper. I loved him last year, but struggled (albeit due to injury interruption) early this season. Wasn't entirely sure whether he would make that elite category or even stay on the park, but yesterday's return has me excited again.

Regarding him not getting enough of it: his possessions-per-minute on the ground put him in the top 3 for the game this week.  It's hard to rack up possessions when you spend more than 1/3 of the game on the pine.

This will not be a concern at all when he's playing midfielder-level minutes on the ground.

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16 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

Very strange goings-on on these shocking facebook groups and threads. Some buffoon saying he had a bad game? I know he made a couple of blues late, but before that he had a few plays where I remarked he looked like last year's Gus. Even found a fair bit of the pill in patches and seemed to be moving really well. I'm on the Trengove is done bandwagon, and this seemed completely different to me. A player on the up who's had most of a season away.

I saw that too. What a rubbish post. I sometimes wonder what people are doing when they're at the game. Are they watching it or do they only become involved when goals are kicked? 

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55 minutes ago, johndemons said:

Everyone defines words differently. Good, Gun, Absolute Gun, Elite, A-Grader, Great. Do I have the order correct?

 

No.

Elite is better than A-grade in my lexicon. 

I define elite as someone who has had multiple all-Australians, or at least has one and is projecting to others. 

Some may think that B+ players like Nathan Jones are elite, so there's merit in your question. 

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