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  1. I think Watts is terrific, just great, the best. I think he has been training well, better than anyone, Goodwin doesn't know, he tells lies, all lies. Goodwin tells so many lies he makes Hillary look honest, so dishonest, not like Watts, Watts is honest, hes more honest than anyone, almost more honest than me. Now it seems some people have been saying some bad things about Watts, all lies, fake, fake news. The forums get all the facts, not the fake facts, the real ones, they take these facts and make fake news, all fake, even Demonland had a topic about Watts that wasn't about Watts, see fake, liars at Demonland, how can you have a topic about Watts without it being about Watts, that is what these forums do, all lies, alternative facts.....disgusting.
    15 points
  2. You don't know how good this post is.
    8 points
  3. Good post Lord T. The club is not at all obliged to explain anything about inner workings of the team to the football world and we're better off keeping them in the dark. In 63 years of watching footy, I've never seen a single player from any team put under the microscope and publicly flogged anywhere near as much and unfairly as Jack Watts has been from day one ! It's been emotional abuse and Jack's admirable handling of it doesn't mean any of us know that it hasn't hurt him deeply and hurt his playing. Many here assume it's water off a ducks back to Jack, but we don't really know that. Roos handled Jack well (kind/supportive) and got results. Even if Jack came back run down, drunk, stoned, with several hookers on the go and told Goodwin to shove it when confronted (none of which probably happened) I think they should have publicly said: "We're resting Jack for a few games to try some new players out." No drama. Privately they should have told him the truth and worked to remedy whatever problem they perceived. Keep the opposition guessing.
    7 points
  4. where's the 'don't care, as long as we win' option?
    7 points
  5. It's just strange. The guy hasn't played a game since last year. He had a good year, kicked roughly 40 goals, was probably our best forward overall for the season, and yet somehow the club has taken away any positivity from that hard work and success and we're left with all this media negativity and these threads amongst supporters. I think they've managed the situation poorly, regardless of the outcome now, so whatever's happens happens I guess. Ugh.
    5 points
  6. Congratulations to Jasmine for a terrific game and her well deserved nomination http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-02-28/grierson-nabs-a-rising-star-nomination Our second rising star nominee!
    4 points
  7. So basically we are to discuss whether Jack Watts should play in Round 1 without discussing Jack Watts... Over to you Demonlanders.
    4 points
  8. He's just a very clever footballer. A case in point was his little knock on in the first term that allowed Salem to kick a goal - it was only a small thing, but purely instinctive and showed that his footy IQ is very high. Alongside Petracca he has the biggest ceiling of the youngsters on the list, and if he keeps working hard to improve then the sky is the limit.
    4 points
  9. She's been great across the half-back line. I'm surprised that she's only played in defence in the last 3 games, because she just seems to have an instinct for it. She knows when to run, when to kick short & when to go long, and her disposal is great. She's also great at working her way through tight situations, especially for someone so young who hasn't played for all that long. We seem to have a great crop of young potential-10-year-plus players who have all taken it up several notches in just a few games. Grierson in defence, Mithen on the ball and Mifsud in attack have been the standouts, but I also liked the contributions from Berry & Kemp. We knew that our established players were likely to do well, and except for the Brisbane game, they have. But to me it's the vastly improved contribution from these young players that make the team really worth watching.
    3 points
  10. Totally agree. To me it looks like she's got about 50% better with every game in the AFLW, although she's apparently played for a number of years. Maybe it's just a matter of confidence - she looks like at some stage a game or two back, she's just realised that she's capable of being not just a good solid contributor, but an "out & out star". In my book, anyone who can improve so much in mid-career is something special. Her disposal by hand or foot is very very good, she plays so direct, and her tackling is ferocious (I reckon she got a couple of harsh decisions in the last quarter for two very hard but fair tackles). If she keeps up to the standard of her performance against Carlton, she's in the Daisy league. And of course she "bleeds red & blue".
    3 points
  11. surely wrecker, hurting(destabilising/sniping) your party in public is an act of blatant disloyalty which abbott promised not to do before the elections if he want's to change party platforms/directions he can do it within the internal party frameworks he has only done himself and his party a dis-service in the eyes of the public where he is just seen as a vindictive trouble maker and someone who can't keep his word and yes again, your bias is blinding your judgement
    3 points
  12. such a pleasure to read a thread that's not about jack watts.
    3 points
  13. I think they have managed the situation quite perfectly. On ya Goody.
    3 points
  14. Maybe the problem is that he gets a lot of goals In St Kilda but not necessarily against. He's one of our best 5 players. Pre-season is a place to have a look at the best trainers. It's a mild warning shot to JW-nothing more. He will play for sure.
    3 points
  15. actually they wouldn't issue me a visa. When I applied Prince Leonard told me they had a "turn back the goats" policy...alas...
    3 points
  16. Well I'm just really relieved that "this isn't another thread about Jack Watts. "
    3 points
  17. The Melbourne AFL Women's team is coming to Sydney to play GWS this Friday night. A win over GWS will keep us in contention for the Grand Final. The women are winning by playing contested football, moving the ball quickly, creating space to attack the goals and tackling ferociously. Talk about a Demon tackler - Daisy Pearce is the top tackler in the AFLW. And we have a special opportunity to meet and hear from our Captain, Daisy in Sydney this Thursday 2nd March 2017 - 6.30 to 8.30 pm. Don't miss out. Book now to meet Daisy at our NSW Demons evening in Sydney. https://www.trybooking.com/OSSR More details : www.nswdemons.com
    3 points
  18. Petracca has a higher ceiling but Oliver is more consistently good.
    3 points
  19. A loss in Round 1 will anger me, but if it's a loss with Riewoldt let off the chain, anger won't begin to describe my sentiments. Put Frost, T Mac AND Buggy on him if that's what it takes.
    3 points
  20. you obviously don't watch Kennedy closely who is the master of keeping the ball alive in tights positions and releasing it to his teams advantage. His first hal in the grand final was as good as you will ever see. Clarry will be doing well to reach that level.
    3 points
  21. Bump. The effect on the local Womens and Girls leagues up here in Canberra is double the amount of players at training then at the same point last year...
    3 points
  22. Ditto the Saints and McCartin.
    3 points
  23. 5 minutes in I forgot it was a clash strip... I supose thats a good sign.
    3 points
  24. I remember him too, he was huge, retired early 1989 I believe he was about 30 and still playing well. On another matter the Australian Sports Drug Agency was formed in 1990 after recommendations from the 1988 parliamentary inquiry into drugs in sport. I am not saying anything, I always wondered.
    2 points
  25. I have two words for you: "Personal responsibility"
    2 points
  26. I don't think you will find anyone saying don't drop him if he isn't up to standard, and good on Goodwin for doing so. The only concern is with the message to the public and affect that has on Jack and on the club. Do we really want a whole lot more eyes on a young team and build the pressure up further? I certainly wouldn't, I would be keeping everything as pressure free (from the outside) as I could to help the young team develop and then face the pressure. Yes the pressure will be on Jack, but it will rub off with extra media scrutiny, that may not be a good thing.
    2 points
  27. Omg.. Jack isn't a protected species, he is a 25 year old adult who hasn't met the club expectations on his training standards. So in the other words, he has been lazy in his work ethic and has now gotten a kick up the bum that he thoroughly deserves. Jack has no one else but himself to blame. Goodwin is setting an elite standard that is primed to stand up in finals and if Jack cannot follow that then im sorry he gets left behind and made to work extra hard like all players do. Why do we need to to continue to cuddle jack every single time? He is a grown adult who has coasted along his whole career for one good season in return. Im sorry for setting a huge expectation on Jack, but fact is, he has been a huge disappointment so far in his career and decided that after 1 good year to take the pedal of the foot and back on cruise mode. Look at Max Gawn and Jack Viney. Both have had career best years and both have stepped it up another level during the pre season because they are driven to the fact they now know you have to back it up each year and strive to be elite in the competition. I applaud Goodwin on his hard stance on this. Players love him and its shown already in the last 2 games that they are on the exact same page as him.
    2 points
  28. 2 points
  29. What cereal does Jack Watts have for breaksfast? I've always thought of him as a Nutri-grain guy. thoughts?
    2 points
  30. I notice Viney does though. I assume the AFLPA put it in his contract. He's already a danger to the rest of the league, without a muzzle he might accidentally kill someone.
    2 points
  31. I'll bite - exactly how would you handle it ? He has obviously in some shape or form not met a standard or standards. You would still play him in the practice matches ? We have 40 plus players on our list who have apparently done the right thing and one that hasn't and the club has handled it poorly ? What message does it send to the rest of the group if you play him in the practice matches if he hasn't kept his end of the bargain ? So I'll repeat the question. How would have handled it ?
    2 points
  32. You would think the club would enforce it. Non- negotiable as an OH&S issue.
    2 points
  33. Prior to Goodwin, the last Ginger coach we had was Norm Smith.
    2 points
  34. I've noticed recently that a lot of players don't seem to wear mouthguards these days. Crazy.
    2 points
  35. He's in our best 22 so he plays. If he's down at Casey and I see plodders like Vandenberg running round against St Kilda then I'll be annoyed, especially if we lose. I don't care if he has a supposed attitude problem, if he plays and plays well then it's irrelevant.
    2 points
  36. It's not a Jack Watts thread, it's an alternative JW thread...
    2 points
  37. He has a fair bit of Cripps about him. More skilful though. He's a hugely exciting prospect. Once he develops a tank, look out.
    2 points
  38. I've had enough. I'm moving. Just got my passport...
    2 points
  39. Calling them journalists does a disservice to all genuine journalists. The greats of the past must turn in their graves. They are paid to write stories and have no concern about their sources or the accuracy of the information. They are inept and lazy. Just think about it. If they were good journos would they be footy scribes. Like seagulls scrabbling for a feed.
    2 points
  40. King has been put back onto the LTI list with a view to a slow and steady rehab, so I believe Smith now has a clean shot at round 1, if he can keep his form for full games through the pre-season. This is all so complicated, how do we fit everyone in?! hee hee haw haw
    2 points
  41. Well you better speak to him about improving it then? Tom is a very good defender and defensively, he is up there with the best in the competition when on song.. But I'd argue that due to our thin key-position back stocks, nobody is putting pressure on him for when he has down games and when he kills us with his poor disposal/decision making. Which is the reason why it's almost 'universally expected' on demonland that he just has scratchy foot skills and as some have said, "he is what he is". (A vague line). Supporters now accept that Tom possesses this weakness simply because we have nobody threatening his position in the side. That is the simple fact of the matter. But I guarantee that if we had better established key position depth and quality, Tom wouldn't necessarily be a lock for CHB every week if his kicking and decision making continued to let him down.
    2 points
  42. you're excused dazzle. you're not getting paid to post
    2 points
  43. We have three games left. Fremantle, GWS and Adelaide. Of those, Adelaide should be the only challenge, although you never know when the others might click. If we win all of them then we are a chance at finals. If we win all of them and Brisbane beat Adelaide then we do play in the final. If Adelaide beat Brisbane then I don't see much chance of us making the GF either way. It would require one of them dropping another game. Now the Crows and Brisbane both have a tough couple of weeks ahead. Next week they play each other, then the week after Brisbane play the Dogs and Adelaide play us. In essence, we'll know who plays the GF by the end of round six unless something goes drastically wrong in round seven. Brisbane could struggle against the Blues, but it's highly doubtful that Collingwood can take Adelaide.
    2 points
  44. Last year was a genuine development year and we saw players promoted before having genuinely earned their spots (Hunt, Wagner, McDonald) and we saw others with no future but good form miss out. This year is not a development year, this year is a year to get our best possible result. I fully support playing Weideman in all practice games - at some point he will be a permanent feature and he could have been this year if he'd shown something. But in two games he's had 12 possessions and one contested mark and kicked two "joe the goose" goals. Yesterday, when we dominated the game, he was ineffectual as a tall forward. If he plays against Saints they will have a low risk player to combat and that will allow them to put more resources to Hogan. Watts must play round 1, if he doesn't we aren't serious. For all the talk I don't get the Watts situation. He's effectively had a two match penalty for "not showing the appropriate intensity at training" but "has done very well at training for 3 or so weeks". What on earth happened to let it get to a situation that meant an appropriate penalty was at least 2 games? Watts is not a rebellious difficult person. He's a guy who is continually seeking advice and feedback. How could it have got to a stage that he's at risk of missing? The club have GPS data on every training session. They have 2km time trial data and they would have weights data and probably a whole lot more. Did nobody tell Watts he wasn't training hard enough and that if he didn't lift his game he'd not be selected? I'm befuddled (I love that word) by the situation. On other selection decisions I think Garlett will play. It was a 3 to 4 week injury and he had 5 weeks to go. He doesn't need match practice he just needs to be switched on. Kent and Tyson, assuming they play next week will get two games under their belt as they'll play for Casey the week before the season proper. And Spencer doesn't get a spot R1 on Etihad.
    2 points
  45. Looks like the Melbourne Football Club SWYL abides
    2 points
  46. I get a generic cut + paste response everytime I email the club, so this seems a more likely place to get a decent answer.
    2 points
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