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If we get AvB playing in 202 that is like having a new recruit, I remember when we got Brayshaw back in 2018 it was much the same way, he'd almost become a forgotten figure and when he was actually given a chance to play he really shon through. I feel like he'll be a challenge for our new fitness staff to handle but boy if we get him right, could make a massive difference!

There's a good chance the club wasn't allowed to take him. There's some strict rules they have to go by having someone train who isn't 'officially' on the list. I think he'd be certain as to what his position in the squad is and the club will be doing what they can so he doesn't feel like and outsider, all the training photo's show him smiling and laughing with the others.

With the exception of not winning a premiership I would take the 90s/00s any day over the 10s.

One of them being that he's not yet a Dees player, only "training with".

Where do I fit in - a private school boy who became a carpenter? Blimey I am so confused by rash generalisations ?

It definitely looks bad, but it's a bit misleading because they haven't included AFLX games. Add those in and we go above the Giants into 15th spot.

It was the reading of the ball in flight and quick step that took him from being behind Lever? to i front of the pack and in a position to be able to take the mark that I was impressed with.

It was hot and windy, difficult conditions that we handled pretty well. Rehab: Vanders and Petty. Pretty much the same as last week. Joined all drills other than the zoning drill I will describe later. Jones and KK. Walked a few laps and then did multiple 100 metre runs around the boundary at about half pace. Neither looked at all inconvenienced. Hannan. Similar to Jones and KK except he ran straight line 100m working up from slow to three quarter pace. Did some specific exercises with one of the physio's concentrating on gait and agility. Spargo: unsighted Bennell: a late arrival and did some gentle boundary running. Tomlinson and Baker: walking That's it for rehab. All the other players did the full session other than Jackson, Rivers and Pickett who joined some of the drills and some specialized drills away from the main group. It was a "craft" day today from what I could tell. There was no match sim but many drills concentrating on specific areas. The main drill of interest was two "teams" practicing zoning and kicking within the zone. The players were continually telling each other where to go, where to stand and alerting them to opposition positioning. The "playing area" was about half the size of a soccer field. Other drills involved marking and spoiling exercises in a three man up situation. Still others involved kicking to leading forwards and there was some "loose" goal kicking practice. The session was only about 2 hours and not nearly as intense as last week, nor as long. The session was one where individual players didn't really stand out but Steve May's kicking is a thing of beauty. In difficult conditions he regularly found tight targets. Beyond that no player really caught my notice for either good or bad reasons. Pickett was there and moves really nicely, is clean with the ball and disposes well. He'll play earlier than many think, particularly if Bennell isn't available. Jackson continues to impress with his skills (and I only mention this because of the concern prior to draft). All in all a low key session in hot and difficult conditions.

Not too late for Oscar to show his mongrel side. Has put on muscle which is a good start. How about we give all players on the list our unqualified support (no matter the past) and see where this year of fitness and change takes us. I have a feeling the List is as motivated and challenging and fit as we have ever seen them. It's like making a whole new start and there are no limitations on any one so don't be surprised if we team together like 2018 but even better. The Coaches snd fitness staff appear right onto every thing and I can't think of too many decisions since the end of 2019 season that haven been for the benefit of the Club. Its early days yet but genuine belief and excitement is growing with a lot of D/L pundits and only the negative nellies can't see better times ahead in 2020.

Rash generalisations? Isn't that what the penicillin is for?

Rubbish. He was sounded out by the AFL and GWS to be their first Coach to bring a profile to the club. He moved states to do the job and was successful at starting a club in hostile territory. He is nothing like the player you mentioned as he played his entire career at one club and basically coached for his entire career at another. The GWS job came after he had retired from Coaching. Easy to rewrite history. Congrats on yet another negative post.

If you want a good culture you send your best leader.

I went today and haven't seen this many in full training for a long time. I was so happy to see Jack Viney fit and in everything, you can just tell he's loving being out there. Like everyone else has mentioned this pre season you cant take your eye's off Petracca, I'll tell you right now the penny has absolutely dropped, he's in for a big one. Others that are way ahead of this time last year - Lever, May, Weid, Hibberd, Oliver, TMac. My only concerns are Tomlinson who's starting to miss a large chunk of pre season & KK who seems to be in no mans land just at the minute. Also this was the first time I'd seen Luke Jackson up close..... Wow.

Just not a fan of hyperbole From what I have seen at training, can see why we went with pick 3 But let's wait and see Sick of this site building up players only to knock them down again Same with Pickett, Bedford has been developing nicely but without the fanfare

Just another groundhog decade!

We were horrible for 5 years of that. Not close to AFL standard. Those days are over.

“The ultimate goal is to win that cup at the end of the year and that’s what everyone’s striving for, so I want to be a part of that.” thats what i liked too read !!

All I want for Christmas is for Vanders to stay fit* Anyone know when Tomlinson is expected to resume full training? *and $1,000,000 please

As opposed to the boxing camp where Maloney would belt the bejeezus out of the new recruits to toughen 'em up abit.

Here's my two bob's worth FWIW: *On my way to training rode past Tomlinson, Bennell and Baker jogging the tan. All moving freely and looked in good spirits. *Took note of the rehab group mainly. VDB & Petty started there but soon joined tha main group. Fingers crossed for VDB. He is ripped! *Hannan looks a fair way off. *Really hoping KK comes on. Not sure he is in rehab for concussion but , to me, looks detached from the group. May well just be his demeanour but all those around him totally foccused. Hope I'm off the mark. *Having said all that, Jones cuts a frustrated figure. Not exactly sure of the problem? *Rivers is a specimen. Tall mid, oozes confidence as has a body ready to go. *Never seen Jetta fitter. *Tomlinson would have to be the tallest and bulkiest og wingmen! *Absolutely trying to be realistic but this is a massive group in main training. Only one not on the park at all was Spargo, I think.

That was how Nigel Smart earned the nickname "Notso" wasn't it?

Like both of these things.

Watching him train, as I have said, can see why we went for him at 3 In the aforementioned marking drill, Steven May went out of his way to knock Jackson around, exactly what he needs to get used to I just want him to be given all the time he needs

Who are you and what have you done with the real Saty? Actually appreciate that bit of balanced reporting. Perhaps puts the "THAT'S what we [censored] got you here for" comment into context.

I hate to [censored] on the party But this drill went for about 10 minutes, prior to the one mark recorded Jackson wasn't getting near it because of the bigger and more experienced bodies A good learning experience

I will definitely make it to one of your gigs but not this weekend. I'm on crutches. Having a final Op next week which ends 3months of being virtually house bound. Old footy injury gave up the ghost. I'm heading to Old Melbourne town the same day and will be down there just in time to make it to the final training session in Melbourne next Friday. Will be there with a Jack Trengove type kneeling scooter. Hoping to take Saty on for a few laps of Goschs. Had a quick look at some of your YouTube clicks. Love your work!! Mate we need you to get the band together at our pre game NSW Demons events. Alas no games in 2020. Hopefully 2021.

There was something strange about his goal kicking; too indifferent to analyse it, though - after all, it was the Tigers in the days of Esso petrol stations. Stickers everywhere - 'Carna Tiges, Put a Tiger in Ya Tank', etc. Paddy had a presence, though. My mates in those days were largely all Tiger supporters and the first person that they ever mentioned was Paddy - a hero-like status, and he could do no wrong. He actually did a good deal wrong, come to think of it ... but in a charming way(?) and the apple of that monotonous Richmond supporter throng. An untidy footballer, at best; strangely this was largely due to those enormous ankle boots with the up-turned toe that he wore (White Diamond brand I suspect). These were great footy boots - wore them myself - but no-one else's toes turned up like Paddy's. He had this larrikin image at all times - and the 'Paddy' instead of the 'Patrick' gave him a leprechaun status but very much larger than the traditional Irish pixie - amid the very deepest jest and jangle of the Irish and thus, widely celebrated, loved and tolerated despite (let's say 'occasional') flaws in technique. As stated before, he still gave his heart and soul to the RFC, and never stopped trying for team success. He attracted large crowds to the Richmond matches, and was rightly and boisterously applauded by his fans, particularly when something onfield went correctly for him. A great past icon of the game we all love.

I think he might have just cleaned the lens.

At least we get our fridge magnets right, unlike team #1.

I’ve just heard that Petty, Chandler and Jordan are doing everything right off the field. No stone unturned. Jordan’s kicking skills and endurance could see him slot into our midfield nicely. With the depth we have next year i’m guessing if he forces his way into the side it’s because he is damaging by foot.

@Satyriconhome did you get a new phone or something? Your photo quality has improved out of sight!

its better than I thought to be honest , I would have had us and carlton as worst by far mind you the best team of the decade isn't that much better , whats one grand final win between friends back in 2011

Come over to my place; still saved on my Foxtel IQ. Sad but true ?

Training review from an AFL track watcher: https://www.afl.com.au/news/267311/draftees-shine-as-fit-again-dees-leave-horror-2019-behind Extracts: [vandenBerg] was able to run in the off-season for the first time since arriving at the Demons in the 2014 rookie draft and has been doing so for the best part of four months. Most encouragingly, vandenBerg took part in midfield drills. [Pickett] sought treatment for a sore left patella and had it taped but completed the session without any noticeable issues while running, leaping and wrestling in one-on-one work. He swapped comfortably between kicking on his left and right foot, was clean at ground level, showed good intensity and displayed clean hands but was blowing hard by session's end. Jay Lockhart and Harry Petty – who showed promise in attack through necessity this year – continue to train with the defenders and forwards, respectively, but are expected to play at both ends in 2020 Second-year players Tom Sparrow, Kyle Dunkley and James Jordon were in the thick of the midfield work. Very encouraging, especially Aaron!

My first time in 2 years - in town from NSW visiting family. Exciting to see so many on the track. May’s left foot is laser like. Jackson shows good hands low down. Nice chatting to you towards the end of the session @Baghdad Bob. Very much agree that Petty will be a gun.

I'm not going to tell you he's going to run out there from day one a dominant because like all kids they need time to develop but i honestly don't think ive seen a kid that quick & agile for his size, he's super competitive, he can obviously take a big mark and his awareness in congestion was excellent. Also im not sure what the panic was with his kicking, it looked just fine to me. I could honestly see him playing as a midfielder in a few years.

Membership Year 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 1st game 22/3 A 23/3 H 25/3 H 25/3 A 25/3 H 4/4 H 22/3 A 31/3 H 31/3 H 27/3 H Oct week 3 19,068 21 15,211 20 21,980 22 19,026 26 16,654 22 17,625 25 Nov week 3 20,215 21 25,028 22 26,064 18 23,037 26 20,509 26 20,223 25 - 16,287 11,922 Dec week 1 28,005 7 30,096 7 28,354 07 27,914 9 24,402 4 22,433 3 22,105 11 18,217 3 18,747 2 17,541 3 Dec week 3 28,441 21 31,759 21 29,053 22 29,426 23 26,217 22 24,097 23 23,542 25 20,623 20,166 Jan week 3 29,764 21 33,226 21 30,068 19 30,200 20 27,027 19 25,112 23 24,558 21 21,873 22,402 22,396 Feb week 1 31,519 7 34,327 7 30,577 2 31,141 3 28,013 3 25,647 1 25,416 4 22,962 8 23,422 23,457 Feb week 2 32,157 14 35,148 14 31,310 14 31,537 10 28,759 17 26,290 12 26,039 12 23,650 12 21,448 12 Feb week 3 32,735 21 36,070 21 32,075 21 32,137 17 29,217 24 26,639 18 26,641 17 23,650 18 24,195 16 25,253 17 Feb week 4 32,985 28 36,973 28 32,948 28 32,679 24 29,450 26 27,066 26 27,736 26 - 25,277 Mar week 1 35,726 7 37,979 7 34,034 7 33,520 3 30,524 7 27,619 4 28,582 4 24,801 5 26,023 27,806 Mar week 2 36,063 14 39,537 14 34,691 14 35,080 16 32,623 16 29,510 16 30,421 15 26,751 14 26,791 14 28,068 Mar week 3 37,571 21 41,513 21 36,513 21 35,756 21 33,146 21 30,257 21 - - Mar week 4 37,888 28 44,008 28 38,089 28 37,025 28 35,117 26 31,035 26 32,324 28 - 29,588 31,087 Apr week 1 38,115 7 45,537 7 39,402 7 38,554 7 35,535 1 32,001 1 - - 32,235 33,359 Apr week 2 38,246 14 46,133 14 40,160 14 39,005 14 36,157 8 33,301 9 33,175 14 - - 33,753 10 Apr week 3 38,286 21 47,174 21 40,557 21 39,281 21 36,731 20 - 34,548 20 Apr week 4 38,431 28 48,080 28 40,636 28 39,634 28 37,597 30 34,068 29 May week 1 38,521 7 49,837 7 41,640 7 40,083 7 37,766 6 34,352 7 35,205 5 - 34,489 35,205 May week 2 38,591 14 50,107 14 41,825 14 40,380 14 38,102 13 - - - 34,961 May week 3 38,673 21 50,422 21 42,057 21 40,549 21 38,327 23 34,871 20 May week 4 38,673 28 50,520 28 42,352 28 40,749 28 38,479 31 35,017 22 June week 1 38,766 7 51,770 7 43,593 7 40,934 7 38,547 6 Jun Week 2 38,985 14 51,770 14 43,791 14 41,022 14 38,653 14 - - 35,403 Final July 30 39,774 52,405 44,191 42,102 39,211 35,953 35,911 33,177 35,345 36,937 Post 31 July 40,531 52,446 45,178 42,233 2020 Progressive total in Red Actual dates in Blue Date of first game of season Home or Away

I think that this is more likely the case.

That'd be two more than Goodwin and the prelim eh?

Might of went a bit overboard about how many games J. Wagner CAN play this year......

Thank you for this separate report, Saty; it is difficult to amass news of the Dees from Adelaide - even though this site is far better than the MFC site, there are gaps in information, naturally, from time to time. I appreciate your efforts and reports - and this specific missive. Keep up the good work on our behalf.

For all the rough stuff mentioned Paddy was a gentleman. He was my first coach at Caulfield in the VFA and such a contrast from Tony Jewell who he took over from. Tony was fiery and could give a spray and left you in doubt about what he thought whereas I don't think I ever heard Paddy swear who was measured and always referring to Len Smith's coaching notes. A great career as a footballer and a wonderful man. My condolences to the family and may he rest in peace.

We already have one in Bradtke, but because he is B class rookie, no fanfare He is developing nicely Should be fun to watch him and Jackson in the forward line at Casey Fact 5 clubs were chasing him to join them when he made a call to go as a B class rookie

The Vault!?! Quick, someone alert Chris Connolly!!!