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I just got home from the game and like others I'm glad I went. Started to get a bit chilly near the end but definitely bearable. Parking lot needs lights, had absolutely no idea where I was. Between the 2 dim sims and sausage roll I've had my fill of reconstituted pet meat. Couldn't find the famed bacon & egg rolls; there was a significant line for the hamburgers though. It was an absolutely rampaging 2nd half from the Scorps and thoroughly deserved win, all the more impressive given they had 1 rotation for the entire 2nd half. Although it must be said that Frankston, despite having the most vocal support, were extremely ordinary all over the ground. As I previously noted their big ruckman must be someone they picked out of Euroleague basketball because he had little idea how to play footy or even cover the ground with any coordination. Awful player. They also had a dashing rebounding defender with blonde hair who thought he was Brodie Smith, checksiding his way out of the backline with regularity into the waiting arms of a Scorpion. I was also not a fan of their TJ esque full back, complete with 50s hair and long sleeve jumper, who couldn't punch the ball nor take the many uncontested marks that somehow fell his way. Onto the Dees listed players (and apologies for any I miss, this is recollection only): Brayshaw - All action game from Gus from the get go. He hits players bloody hard (you can feel it at this level when you are nearby) and his attack on the ball was manic. We know he can bring this side of the game; his evolution needs to come in his outside game. We know he can be damaging through the corridor but even when that worked last year I felt like the kick was often made to look better by the speed of Jeffy. There were times tonight where he was in the clear and completely fluffs the kick, absolute tumblers. He kicked 2 by my count, both when he broke clear in the forward 50 and ran into goal. Seemed to run the game out fine. Also liked how vocal he was in the 3QT huddle urging the boys on for another big quarter. Him and Trac have a fair bit of love going on and its evident they really enjoy playing together. Petracca - I was surprised he had 28 touches ; I didn't think he had it that much. Nonetheless a very noticeable player when he has the ball and at times without it; a real burst runner. There were a number of times where he absolutely bust his gut running quick alongside a contest to try and get on the end of it. Doesn't run quite as hard defensively but this will come. His kicking is low and hard with huge penetration; hit an absolute burner from the wing to Weideman on the lead at CHF in Q1 that big Sam grassed. Just as well too or young Sammy might have jarred all the bones in his hands at once. Not sure I've seen a kick with that penetration for some time. He has a touch of Robbie Gray about him in that he looks to sidestep and ride a challenge before disposing; I suspect when he plays AFL this will get found out a few times and he will be pinged. He has a fair bit of attitude about him and endless banter with both his teammates and the opposition. He continually demands the ball when teammates are lining up for set shots, begging for the ball even when he is surrounded by opponents and absolutely filthy when they don't give it. The type of player that teammates love and opposition players will hate. 1 or 2 more weeks and he will be right to go, but it's a weird feeling being both excited and terrified everytime he goes near the ball. We haven't even seen what he can do yet but I still have kittens everytime he is in a contest that *might* have awkward knee implications. Suspect I'm not alone here. ANB - Really warmed into the game and was a key reason for the 2nd half dominance. He's a good in and under player but I actually think he's not a pure inside midfielder as some have him pegged. He sort of a half-half; he'll never be receiving the ball streaming past on the outside but he's often the one on the end of the handball from under the pack in a yard or two of space. From this position he often finds a free player with a short kick; his lateral awareness is very good and his kicking has a quick and simple release. Could easily end up a 200 game player and if he comes in soon this year expect an impact in the 2nd half of games. His endurance is outstanding and he's quite a mature player for his age. Weideman - First time I have seen him play. He wasn't as dominant as he sounds from the stats but played a good game and created headaches for the Dolphins all night. Most of this was due to his height but he also times his jumps quite well and leads well for a young player. It's clear he has a good footy head on his shoulders and he reminded me a little of a skinnier, quicker, taller Darling. He's very aggressive in the air which I loved, but when he got involved in the play up the ground he generally turned it over. A couple of times he would take a grab or receive the ball in space and look to play it on quickly. This was good but often his execution let him down. Nonetheless I like his instincts and think he could be a good one. Pending our forward line troubles continuing he may get a look in at some stage. I feel like he will be good for Hogan because he actually leads all over the place which will drag the defenders away from Jesse's square. Trengove - Saw him take a mark in the backline and kick off in the first minute. Watching him follow the quick with his run, I thought he was covering the ground better and quicker than I remember. The next minute he had his head knocked off in a contest and was prone on his back for a good 5 seconds. Got up and had the dizzies so he went off and failed a concussion test. He was walking around later and seemed fine, if quiet. Pedo - Fairly average game. Didn't have to assume heaps of ruck responsibilities once Mitch King went down, but other than a few in Q2 he isn't clunking his marks like we know he can. I'm not convinced he has the sharpness or quickness of thought to ever be more than a role player and his age is not on his side. Michie - Whilst he probably got a lot of the ball and did kick a couple of classy goals, he just doesn't have enough damage to his game. He's rather one paced, doesn't work hard to get into space and for a clearance player actually has pretty poor composure. Tends to bomb it long rather than lowering his eyes and backing his skills and he doesn't seem to have the body type that modern AFL demands. He's skinny down low and big up top, which seems to make him easy to tackle and dispossess and limits his explosiveness. He's sort of like the polar opposite to Petracca... White - I'm a fan of this guy - he presents as a slightly odd player but most of his involvements are really positive. He's a strong body player, good size for a third or fourth defender, goes for intercept marks (not a bad leap on him) and has really good footskills. Could improve his ground level play where he is a little dumbly, but is very vocal and clearly seen as a leader. Not sure how Wagner is getting a gig ahead of him tomorrow and I remember liking his Rd23 game against GWS last year too. Handy sidekick for Salem I think with a bit more size. Hunt - Can be eye catching, his 2nd half was fantastic but I'm not completely sold. As mentioned it was an absolute rampage in the second half and Hunt was free to run off the HB flank at will with pretty much no defensive consequences. That said he had some really good set up play and is starting to use his evasion and speed really well. I'm not a huge fan of his kicking but he mostly plays to his limitations which is a trait I like in a young player. He will get a gig at some point this year and may do alright. Very quiet around the huddle and seems to be keeping his head down. Garland - Didn't notice him a huge amount, but contested well in the air whenever the ball went into the Dolphins forward line. They wouldn't have had many marks inside 50 which was a credit to the work he and Oscar got through. Despite being implored by the coaches to be brave and take the corridor, continues to look sideways and take the safe option. Also way too quiet around the huddles for a guy who is in the senior team leadership group. If I were on this team, I wouldn't see or feel he is a leader. Oscar - Could easily get a look in next week. He looked a fair cut above this level to be honest, which was surprising as I haven't been his greatest supporter, but he dealt with most inside 50 entries with ease and rebounded very well too. His footskills are more reliable than his brothers, still not great, but reliable and he generally doesn't make many mistakes. Seems a smart player. Was one of our best and I would have no issue if he was to come in next week. At this stage, at least the equal of Garland and could well be better, notwithstanding the potential of Garland's invisible leadership skills. Mitch King - Poor lad went down near me and was in a lot of pain, wailing from the moment he went down which given he has done it before, indicates ACL to me. I think it was an awkward tackle that did it; was hard to see. He seemed to be playing pretty well before that and I can understand the optimism I've been hearing. Terlich - Just standard. Kicked a good goal from just inside 50 on the run after breaking a tackle, but did little else noticeable. I don't know why he has never been trialled in the midfield or half forward flank pushing up, even the wing? We have played guys with worse endeavour and worse foot skills in those positions before. He is a see ball get ball player who generally pushes it forward with momentum. I think he is wasted in the backline because he doesn't have a defence first mentality. Hulett - He's a big lad and a bit of an enigma. When he gets it I think he is a mid as he's quick and mobile with a decent kicking action. At this stage though he's a fair bit off the pace and just doesn't quite know where to be. I'm surprised he isn't playing in the development league. Cops a fair bit of flak from his teammates constantly yelling 'Huey, get in position', including Petracca who taught him an absolute lesson about pushing up to the edge of the square as a half forward. He didn't listen and was second to the ball when it came forward out of the square. Trac let him know about it too. JKH - didn't have many (any) possessions but was specifically called out in the QT huddle for his work at the contest in the 50. He was certainly on some angry pills and was contesting everything, which was good to see. Disappointing to see him do his hammy; it seemed relatively minor at the time so should only be a couple of weeks I would think. Of the Casey players I didn't mind the smart little mid/forward they all referred to as 'Gussy' (No he wasn't Angus), they also had some good big forward targets who took a few big grabs. Casey barely missed a set shot in the 2nd half which added to the blowout. Don't think I missed anyone notable but happy to answer questions if I haven't covered something specific. Depending on how we go tomorrow I would think if changes are in order then Brayshaw, ANB, Oscar and potentially Hunt would come under consideration.

Ok so i should kick this off by saying that this is a hard match to comment on because of how one sided it was. I felt really sorry for Frankston as by the last quarter they were just uncompetitive giving up 12 goals to 1. At times it looked like a training drill in the 2nd half after the Dolphins were at least competative in the first half where they trailed by 35. Frankston seemed to come out with an intention to be as physical as possible. Trengove was knocked out with his head over the ball in the first 3 min, King did his knee with a Frankston player sliding into him when he was bending down and both Michie & Pedersen were dumped after disposing of the ball in the first half. Didn't see any of that in the 2nd half however. Still, you can only perform against the opposition in front of you. So here's my take on how the players went; Christian Petracca: Kicked 2 goals and did a few very exciting things. There's no doubt he's going to be something special, but i hope they don't rush him. Wouldn't play him next week myself as there's others who were better tonight and after last week i think making sure someone is fully match fit is even more important now. At least another week in the VFL for me. Jack Trengove: Got a couple of early touches before being knocked out with his head over the ball by a Frankston player who should find himself with a fortnight holiday. Tried to get up straight away but was very unsteady. Will likely miss next week, but should be back in a fortnight. Three solid weeks from there could have him in the frame for seniors by Round 8. He was around at the 3/4 time huddle which was encouraging. Angus Brayshaw: Solid game in the midfield and he'll be much better for the run. Kicked 2, possibly 3? And looked dangerous when drifting forward. A loss tomorrow and he'll be in contention for a recall. Colin Garland: Didn't do anything wrong, however didn't have a lot to do. My one criticism would be he could be a bit more damaging going the other way. Nothing wrong with his game, but he didn't dominate. Cameron Pedersen: Thought he was very good. Split his time between CHF and ruck where he was needed after King's injury where he and Casey's Keilty competed very well against the much bigger Sikora. Kicked 2 goals, but could have easily had 4 or 5. Viv Michie: In my top half dozen. Dominated around the stoppages, used the ball well and kicked 2 goals. I found the fact he kicked 2 important as in the past he hasn't hit the score board which is a conncern for such a good VFL level player. Next step is to learn how to get more easy outside ball. Kennedy-Harris: Did his hammy in the 2nd term, so will miss a few weeks. Must admit i'm a little concerned. Didn't have much of an impact and seems to have stagnated. Sam Weideman: Kicked 4 and looked good. Strong hands, a beautiful kick, moves well and gets to contests and competes. Is he ready for a debut next week? Look if we were to bring a key forward in for next week you'd probably go with Pedersen first, and that's probably best for Sam's development. He's ticking the boxes though! Liam Hulett: Not the best game, made a couple of errors, but he competes. Would like to see him again before forming judgement, but my initial thoughts are he's a defender playing forward. Oscar McDonald: Best game i've seen him play. At half time i'd of had him as BOG, however the ball barely came his way in the 2nd half. Regularly outmanouvred and out marked his opponent, ran off them and used the ball well. Based on tonight i'd recall Oscar before Col. Jayden Hunt: Great game and first 4 quarter game i've seen him play. Seemed to play wing/half back. Used his speed to burn off opponents regularly and link up play with overlapping hanballs. After tonight he should be an automatic selection for any matches at the fast track of Etihad. Horses for courses! Alex Neal-Bullen: Would probably give him my 3 votes for BOG. Was in everything. Got the ball inside & outside, ran all night, had great hands in close and generally used it well by foot also. Now i'm not saying he'll even be half as good, but for me, there's a lot of Rob Harvey in the way Nibbler goes about things. He's a true midfielder, and this is where he'll play his best football. Mitch King: Was competing well in the ruck against the much stronger and more experienced Sikora, until a Frankston player slid into his bent knee right infront of me and i heard his ACL pop! Was horrible! Really feel for the kid and hope he comes back from it. He seems to have a good leap, so hopefully this wont effect that. Mitch White: Reports were he'd been struggling this pre-season. Maybe he just likes the season proper as i thought he was very good. Mitch, Oscar & Hunt dominated the first half with their rebound from the half back line and Mitch used it very well also, just like he did last year. He dropped two marks you'd of liked him to take, but touch wood Mitch is back on track to improve further this year. Joel Smith: Showed some signs. Took a very strong pack mark in the first half and showed some dash from the back line in the 2nd half. Watching his development will be interesting. Dean Terlich: Sorry to say, but a typical Terls game. Turned over several kicks in the first half that were cringe worthy. Kicked a nice goal in the 3rd term, but i think we all know what's happening here at the end of the season. Special mention to Casey players Tim Smith with 5 goals & several strong marks, Declan Kelity who went into the ruck for King, giving up 10cm & 20kg but competed exceptionally well and whoever nnumbet 30 was (not in the record) who was very energetic and in everything. Will be nice to see Casey on top of the ladder at the end of the round!

The closest thing to Robert Flower! Rob Murphy enscapulates all that is good about the game. He is one of the most skilful players ever to pull on a boot, Scrupulously Fair, Brilliant leader and spiritual host of the Bulldogs push into greatness this year! The closest thing to Robert Flower we have in the current climate! I hope that he recovers quickly and plays in finals and decides to call quits on his terms!! He is a champion and ornament to the game1 Good luck Rob! PF!

We're going to be a football team. Whether this battered and bruised group of supporters has the patience and belief is another question.

Just got home. I have no voice left. Just thinking about how that game was umpired makes me furious all over again. For me it almost ruined what was a thoroughly entertaining game. Wind was a massive factor in the first half. The ball held up and was almost unmarkable when kicking to the non-river end (not sure what they call it). I think the score imbalances did reflect conditions - our intensity looked okay to me in the first quarter but we just couldn't score. Viney best on by miles for me.

Go away. Are you a supporter? We don't need your kind of support.

Was just unfair. The umpires gifted North the game. I [censored] hate that team and their pathetic cry baby coach. Bunch of pretenders

An amazing, frustrating, exhilarating, heart stopping game of footy. Lots to love, lots to despair of. I know we will play a couple more howlers this year just like the Essendon one, probably at Etihad or against the Lions etc... But for the most part, I can enjoy watching the Dees play again. Who remembers just after the Neeld sacking - our % was in the 50's. Yep, the 50's. Today, after 2 losses, it is in the 90's. We are IN almost every game we play, even if we get 7 goals behind. We lack polish but we are at the contest, fighting, clawing, tackling and busting our guts. I hate losing and am sick of it. But at least I am enjoying the game again.

Agree re Olivier, in spite of what we saw with Parish last week, Oliver just looks in another league. His awareness around the ball is already in a class of its own. On the other hand, he is still young, and giving away two 50m penalties (if I remember correctly) that resulted in goals was less than ideal. School of hard knocks, presumably he'll learn. I remember back in the day, we used to talk about "getting games into the kids". Now, we've finally got a group together - plus the half-dozen or so running round at Casey - where as much as anything else, that's what we need to be doing. The future can't come soon enough. We didn't lose today because they were a better side, we lost today because we were a less experienced side, and weren't able to finish when we needed to.

Can we at least agree to ignore ding and not feed the troll?

I don't think the umpires cost us the game. we still make stupid mistakes. Too often we lie on the ball and not get it out, too often we miss a target from three meters away under no pressure, too often we choose bad options. Vanders miss was bad, Watts pass to Hogan instead of taking the shot, Gawns taps early in the last mostly being taken by North, once again our coaches not puttin anywhere near Harvey who kills us every bloody year. Last five minutes of the game we tried to be precise instead of getting it in long and fast which had worked for us. We still don't know how to stop momentum and to take the sting out the game. Too often we still drop marks that we should take. But, if we play like that this week, we beat the pies. Vanders started to impose himself physically for the first time this year, Kent and Harmes showed something, Lumumba and Jetta ran off really well. A lot of positives to take from today's game.

The Demonland server has been struggling under duress for a while now. Have to wonder about two of our GWS signings. Frost looks completely incapable as a forward, either he moves to defence or is delisted. Bugg is a bit meh and doesn't use the ball well or make good decisions. I'd comfortably have Matt Jones ahead of him. At least Tyson is getting closer to 2014 form. Absolutely love Oliver. He is seriously Voss-like with his ability to dart off handballs. I had no doubt he'd nail that goal from 55m and he did. He's just made of the right stuff. His only blemish was giving away a goal for 'abuse', but given the way the game was going, given it was [censored] Harvey and given it was a duck, even THAT can be forgiven. I can't believe we kicked a score of 20.11.132 under Roos and lost. At least we're evolving with modern footy I suppose, Ross Lyon's side is still kicking 7 goals a week.

Unbelievable game, pity we had an extra 3 opponents, especially when they went forward. some costly errors by U.S., but hold your heads up boys, expect that sort of effort every week

Look I really hate it when people post things like this, but I've got to question whether anyone who wants to drop Harmes saw the game. You just don't drop players who get 10 tackles.

He said he was pleased with the effort and frustrated with the loss. You're a [censored]

I've lifted my self-imposed ban to give my summary of the game: The umpires [censored] us right over and can all go and swim back from Tasmania as far as I'm concerned.

LOL! There's only one person commenting in this thread so far that seems unable to deal with the fact that we lost.

Gawn monstered Goldy in the ruck, but Goldy did the job around the ground, including a couple of soft goals from frees. What a battle, 172 SuperCoach points each.

Look at me, look at me

What a load of masochistic nonsense. Yeah we would have won if we were better, but to groan about supporters who rightly pointed out the umpiring was disgraceful, jeez, some people...

Yeah - Gawn has turned out to be such a disaster. The gramps ruckman that has done two knees, that has turned in to a class ruckman, and happens right now to be the only fit ruckman on our list. Have another gold star.

That second half was fantastic but in all honesty I did not think you can take much away from the game as the Dolphins were little more than witches hats after half time. Very little opposition. The one thing I do find absolutely awesome is the way they played with one on the bench.They did not slow down, players just rotated themselves out of the mid field to either the back line or forward. What I like is that there must have been about 16 MFC players who ran on top of the ground all night and finished stronger than the opposition who lost one player to an arm injury in the last quarter. Says a lot about our fitness and none of them looked exhausted after the game. Quite impressive. Can't really say a lot about individuals as the lighting is not great and at my advanced years the stand side of the ground was in semi darkness. One of the Casey blokes I did like the look of was Attley (No. 15). Went alright. Enjoyed the night, scoffed 2 bacon rolls. Worth the 2 hour trip.

I saw three instances where North players blatantly threw the ball to their team mates, and two of those resulted directly in goals. Funnily enough the umpires called them out too. The whole throwing business is becoming a farce and the umpires seem as though either don't care, or can't keep up with it. North are the biggest culprits in the league, along with Hawthorn.

yep that bald headed m@ggot really did a number on us. Gave us very little, yet at every opportunity was looking to give NM a free

Ding is obviously a troll. Please ignore.

Sadly, this thread is an exercise in futility. The umpires don't know the rules. Neither do I anymore.

To be happy or frustrated? I mean, clearly our effort and willingness to impact most of the day was there. But why again does it have to come on the back of one of the most insipid displays I've witnessed? I hate that we seem to be able to 'get ourselves up' for games like today's.. As admirable as it was. The next two weeks will be bigger tests for this group. And we better [censored] back that effort up.

Any love for Roosy throwing Hogan in the middle early? I know people will say they jumped us, but we smashed them in the middle, even in the first. Hogan got into the game and then went forward and continued.

You think so. 14 possessions at 100% efficiency and a goal to put us in front.

Let's just pretend the thread was bumped to recycle this ^^ joke.

I'm bloody excited to be jumping in the Navara with my 7 year old little Demon for a road trip on Anzac Weekend! I have been hoping beyond hope that we either see Petracca or Trengove play against the Tigers. My lad has never been to the home of football.... OUR home of football... and I am counting the sleeps like a kid waiting for Christmas!

Bumps thread. Realises it was pathetic. Deletes post.

I'm concerned that it is so easy, after a narrow loss such as this, for recriminations to break out on this site. these usually relate to the last few minutes of a game. So, Watts is under fire for not kicking at goal. Dunn tried to stop a half volley with his foot. Bugg buggered up his kick to Stretch. RVB missed his easy shot.This ignores errors such as Vince's errant kick to Kennedy in Q1 which was marked by Firrito and led to a goal to NM .But, at other times,Tyson is said to have been useless notwithstanding his second quarter. The coaches must have got it all wrong, otherwise we must have been successful. No-one thinks of many remarkable errors made by NM. Errors were inevitable today. this game was played in remarkable conditions, yet it was one of the best matches I've seen since 1950 when I started supporting Melbourne. In wind such as we saw today a score of 8.18 to 6.16 would have been predictable, or a greater loss for Melbourne.. It was no match for we the supporters to be casting around looking for culprits. Melbourne played a first gamer plus third gamer against the most experienced team in the comp. They played on a ground they've never played before. And their best player Max Gawn gave the best display of knock ruck work I have ever seen in 60 plus years, against the player hitherto regarded as the best ruck in the league. Can anyone recall such direction of the ball to our runners? What about the 8m tap to Tyson in Q2 leading to a brilliant goal? We are plainly going somewhere and those thrashing around in anger are misguided. It wouldn't matter except that some of the comments are very hurtful, and may play a role in future list decisions

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Umpiring: What about the Goldstein free at the centre bounce when the ump. bounced it badly, Gawn had to run 6m. to compete, and touched Goldstein.? Should have been a re bounce. No.. a free , then a mysterious 50m., and... a goal! What about the ruck infringement against Gawn when he was in front, didn't touch Gold... FREE! Goal against the wind. Deliberate against Vince when he obviously tried to find a team mate with a handball while under pressure.....goal to Gibson.Similar ones not paid against North. The Goldstein goal on the goal line. Replayed to determine if the ball touched the post. But we needed a replay to see if it had already crossed the line before that. Harmes' clear, inspiring mark, dead in front. He got a goal soon after with sheer guts, so perhaps that one didn't cost us. 2 goals to North against the wind resulting from definite and obvious throws We must teach our players two detestable skills that Harvey has mastered and taught his team mates. 1./ Duck when tackled to get the free.2/. Dive forwards and flat when tackled from behind to get the "in the back". Don't try to break the tackle. That's about 6 goals they didn't deserve. The better, more deserving side ,lost.

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I was at the ground, following from last week I was worried we could get monstered and at quarter time it was looking that way. The response after quarter time was incredible, it was a showcase of what we are truly capable against an in form team and in truth we shot ourselves in the foot (not for the first time). key moments in the last quarter cost us shots on goal/goals and the opportunity to actually get the win. It was not easy conditions with the wind blowing all over the place and once we settled we looked every bit the team we're capable of being. There is talk about the umpires, and so I'll start by saying we had our chances and we got punished for not taking them. But there were decisions that gifted them shots on goal that were North playing for the frees and the umps being sucked in. They played a part but I won't say they lost it for us, we had enough chances. Gawn was amazing and is capable of being AA, maybe not next year but it's in him. He was huge. Viney played his usual heart out and was big when the game was in the balance. Lumumba was MUCH better and his run out of defence was important, he still needs to learn when the time is right to do it but he was important for us today. Oliver showed again why is going to be big for our future, and his first goal was a cracker. Sooooo frustrating to see this after being dished up that undiluted crap last week, but they must build on it and we have to win next week. We just have to. Collingwood are a very average team and it will be a disaster if we are 1-3 after 4 rounds.

In the last few minutes we had 3 rotations left, North had none. No idea what you're on about praha. Glad the boys impressed you with their turn around in effort, intensity and commitment to the contest....

Overall free kicks even. but the decision not to pay the mark to Harmes at the end was a disaster, compounded by the absurd free to Goldstein in the second quarter. It's not the number of frees but where u get them

We're going to be a good team - that's what I take away from today.

Just some quick observations taking into account I left at 3/4 time. I went to see Petracca and Trengove. Didn't see Trenners at all as I was getting a burger at the beginning of the first. Petracca must have played most of his game on the grandstand side as my view differs from many here. I thought he was prolific, I must have just seen all of his possessions! Was on and off the ground three or four times a quarter and whenever he was on he had an influence. He was clean, made good decisions and executed very well. He played both inside and out and just did all things well without doing anything spectacular. For a kid playing his second game in 20 months it was a very good showing. When he's fit he'll just walk into the team and have an influence from day one I'd reckon. The other players have been covered pretty much but I was impressed with Mitch before he did his knee. Took a very good contested mark in front of us and moved and kicked well. Let's just hope for the best. And a quick work on Joel Smith. He did a couple of things in front of me that really impressed. He seemed very quick and strong with fantastic athletic ability and very good hands. Took a difficult half volley very cleanly and seemed really hard at the ball. He's a really interesting prospect and just needs to learn to find the ball and his kicking seemed suspect. Others to really impress me were Oscar Mac and ANB. I'm not as sold on ANB as many but he was our best last night along with Brayshaw I thought. Michie was better than others thought IMO. Frankston were pretty awful so all must be taken with a grain of salt. I've said it before and I'll say it again (to give perspective to those who are reading these reports). It's a terrible viewing ground and it's difficult to pick players up anywhere over the other side of the ground from the centre onwards. If a player played 4 quarters on the other side of the ground to where you were sitting you'd miss 80% of his output. It was particularly difficult given the lights are sub standard and I really don't understand why they play night games there.

Can we have a seperate thread to discuss other threads?

I don't like Lloyd but he is spot on. Those that whine about these articles and say they don't say anything new. Maybe they will when or if we actually did anything new. We deserve every sensationalised whack we get until we actually stop being the soft bellied laughing stock that we are. All the talk needs to stop, we are well overdue for consistent application of actions and it needs to start now.

Excluding the first quarter, THAT is the intensity we must bring to every, single game. It is the standard that'll see us win the next 3 in a row.

WIN.... you lazy mentally weak Bastards

We do deserve all we get after last week To throw that Shite up in Roosy's 3rd year only The MFC could do that Get ANGRY Wells11 not defensive FCS!!

Said last week that Melbourne recruiters are really keeping a close eye on this kid this year. Great reports from all who went. Really appreciate them.

Will be at the game and have a good feeling about this. So we will probably lose by 10 goals. Either way cannot wait to get to the ground and see the boys in action.

Talk about a lippy Petracca! Lining up for goal and a 150kg Franky supporter yells out "out of bounds d**ckhead" Trac kicks it and turns straight around to the crowd and yells "what was that mate?" Brave. Or a little unwise.