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So Petracca is off to Adelaide then. Just our luck

Yeah but it wasn't aggressive enough.

Yeah I'm still spewing we ended up with Vince.

He's already my least favourite Melbourne player.

We lose on that one.

Dangerfield... The first half of his name is Danger.. Danger is associated with the colour red. Red is the first half that is sung in our team song "Keep your eye on the RED and the blue" Field, being in the last part of his name is defined as "an area of open land" verb: "The player in the red & blue jumper took the FIELD" Combine the two together..

Jeez people love to read too much into stuff. Dangerfield says, "Mick Dundee wants his hat back" and Petracca responds with "Adelaide want their player back". Nothing more than friendly banter.

All our trade talk seems to be about Howe, Watts, Dawes, Garland, Toumpas and now also Dunn. I'm not sure how 'aggressive' it is for the club to be willing to consider offers for AFL-level players who are not critically important to the team, even if they are creditable and good contributors to culture. 'Aggressive' in my mind would be talking about trading Tom McDonald as a part of a deal to get Dangerfield. Or Gawn and our top pick for Prestia and big Zac. For the record, I wouldn't approve of that level of ruthlessness. I think it comes at a secondary cost of increasing other player's willingness to move out. Generally, when we struggle to assemble an AFL-level best 22, I'm reluctant to let any credible players go.

I've taken that exchange as he has already signed with the Dees. I have already gone out and bought a Macallan 25 year old single malt scotch whiskey to celebrate!!! Set me back almost 3 grand but it is worth it to celebrate Danger being on board!

King said he had been told that Goodwin would be taking on more duties next year, especially in the pre-season, and that our game plan was likely to change as a result. Said we would be more attacking next year, and might ditch the man-on-man style in favour of zones. Also said he thought we were well-placed to improve, that Roos had laid the foundations and we had a promising list. Nothing earth-shattering.Edit: Also interesting that he said we would play "modern footy" under Goodwin, the obvious implication being that the Roos gameplan is outdated.

First player suggested that is a realistic get and actually worth discussing.

yup. i'm in again like the sucker i am, year after year...

It's seriously embarrassing. Melksham is the sort of player you recruit on the last day of trade week when you've been jilted at the altar by others. He's not a coup half way through September.

"According to 3AW..." Stopped reading there.

We win our last game, and at Etihad, Hogan wins the rising star. I'm thinking well at least I can be happy with small victories for 6 months. Couple of weeks later I'm slapped with a reminder of how embarrassing this club can be. Just a month of good news would do me. I'm not religious, but I'll convert to all of them and pray this [censored] isn't true. #melkshambles

More likely, King read this thread on Demonland on Roos taking a back-seat: http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38646-paul-roos-to-take-back-seat/?hl=roos. The week before this thread there was an article on the mfc website discussing the transition in 2016 One of my posts in that thread include these points: The transition will probably be: - Goodwin to do less player development and take more training/coaching sessions this year. - Goodwin to play a big role in the 2015 a trade/draft process - Goodwin takes a chunk of the pre-season coaching work. - Goodwin to probably coach the NAB games in his own right, without Roos in the box (or even at the game). - Roos starts coaching from the boundary for part/all of some games towards the middle of 2016 (depending on our wins/losses) - Goodwin does more work with the board, sponsors and the press in 2016. - In Sept 2016 Roos walks away. We have already seen the first of these points happening. I reckon King bookmarks stuff during the year only to regurgitate it at a time it suits and he makes out he is 'in the know'. He has nothing to add!

Dangerfield just tweeted a message to Petracca,that Mick Dundee wants his hat back, after seeing a pick Petracca just instagrammed. Maybe Paddy has just become friends with all the Demon boys on Instagram and Twitter for a reason. I'm sure I'm reading too much into it though....just thought I'd pass on the info and my optimistic take anyway.

[censored] OFF ESSENDON YOU SCUMBAGS! HE'S OURS!

If we're offering Melksham 1.6 over 4, i'm assuming the offer to Hrovat is 9.8mill over 7 years...

Can't get excited by this.

Great pick up; smart, brave, mostly clean, and an absolute competitor. Top notch pick up and future leader. What he did for Crossy's son will live with me forever.

Swap Howe for Redden Watts & 2nd Round Pick to Port for Hartlett Danger in as FA Adcock delisted FA 1st round pick take Curnow If Garland goes pick up 2nd round compo if we are lucky swap for Tomlinson Changes the dynamics of the midfield very quickly Jetta Tmac Dunn Salem Frost Hartlett Stretch Danger Vince Brayshaw Hogan Kent Garlett Tomlinson Pedersen Gawn, Viney, Jones I/C Petracca, Redden, Adcock & 1 of ANB, Curnow or Lumumba, bad oversight by me but Tyson has to go in here, shows some depth that we could have if we get things right, young White showed a bit I'd give Grimes another year or two as depth we are always going to get injuries and depending upon opposition and match ups a tall would be required to come in

I'm not surprised that we are overpaying... just that the player we choose to overpay is Melksham. Madness.

Yes.

At least Dean Terlich, Matt Jones and Ro Bail are available for selection in the 2016 and 2017 seasons.

One of the more bizarre and off the mark posts I've read on Demonland in a while.

I wouldn't be unhappy if all of them were traded, depending on what we would get in return. Dunn would be replaced in the 22 by Frost straight away.

Vince? Roos' got Vince in. Craig did get us Sellar in 2011.

We [censored] up. Why the [censored] do our coaches always feel the need to try saviour players carers from there old clubs. Neeld brought Dawes Neil Craig Bought Seller Now Goodwin wants Melksham and Mcartney Hrovat. Ffs

THE next two months are critical in Melbourne’s fight to keep Jesse Hogan. When it comes to Melbourne’s most important re-signing in a decade or more, money is unlikely to be much of a factor for Hogan. Simply, the hulking spearhead will be worth the best part of $1 million a season wherever he plays. And yes, Melbourne can absolutely afford it, in a re-sign-at-all-costs kind of a way. But for the Demons, what will be even more important than the size of Hogan’s next house is finding the ace goal kicker a big-bodied, forward-line friend. Over the next eight weeks, it is Melbourne’s top list management priority. Hogan, 20, was one of the stories of the AFL season, kicking 44 goals after missing a year with injury. He is a leader, an insatiable competitor and the bedrock for Melbourne’s plans to rise from a decade out of the finals. He has a great relationship with Demons’ coach-in-waiting Simon Goodwin. But he desperately needs another marking target to help share the enormous burden he shoulders inside 50m. Think Roughead-Franklin. Carey-McKernan. Lucas-Lloyd. Brereton-Dunstall. Brown and Lynch. According to the talent experts, the 195cm Hogan can join that group. He is that special. But the biggest threat to Hogan’s future at Melbourne, other than the obvious continuation of the Dees’ upward climb up the ladder, will be leaving him one-out in the goal square for the next 12 months. And the potential departure of high-flyer Jeremy Howe in the next few weeks only makes the need for some immediate aerial support more urgent, after missing out on re-signed Adelaide mobile half forward Tom Lynch last month. In his third season, Hogan was the clear No. 1 inside-50m target (27.7 per cent of the forward entries), followed by Cameron Pedersen (20.5), Chris Dawes (17.6), Jeff Garlett (13.5) and Howe (6.6), according to Champion Data. Pedersen could be delisted, Howe sounds like he is out the door and Dawes finished 19th in the best and fairest, kicking 11 goals from 14 games. Jack Watts is more of utility, and not a spearhead. Other than that, Melbourne’s remaining key forward option is Jack Fitzpatrick, who was shifted into defence in the VFL. The Dees’ next generation midfield is rich with quality youngsters and we’ve still hardly seen No. 2 pick Christian Petracca in his comeback from a knee reconstruction. Before hurting his knee, Petracca did things at Melbourne training that made the coaches giddy. If the powerful midfielder is not already favourite for next year’s Rising Star award, he will be close, giving the Dees a genuine chance to go back-to-back in the coveted award. Petracca to Hogan is a reason to keep the faith and from Melbourne fans’ perspective, it will be worth the price of admission to catch a glimpse of these two in action together in 2016. But as much hype as there has been about this year’s Rising Star winner Hogan after his sensational third (but really first) season, Melbourne’s forward line needs a talent injection. Big-time. It will be written all over Todd Viney’s recruiting clipboard. Coach Paul Roos flagged the club would be aggressive next month, with almost every player on the Demons’ list tradeable if it can help Melbourne achieve its stated mission to play finals next year. Yes, that includes Jack Watts, but Melbourne won’t sell him for cheap, especially considering he has probably had his best season. The good thing for Melbourne is, even if the club cannot latch on to another mature-age goal kicker in the exchange period (and the genuine options are limited) this is not a bad draft to be looking for a key forward at the top end. Geelong Falcon Charlie Curnow (brother of Blues’ Ed) will be around the mark, along with 196cm Eastern forward Sam Weideman (grandson of Collingwood great Murray) 191cm South Australian Ryan Burton and 200cm Gippsland goal kicker Harry McKay. All will be talked about as quality forward 50m options in the lead-up to the draft over the next two months. Hogan doesn’t come out of contract until the end of 2017 and all indications are that he loves the environment, telling the Herald Sun in May he believed the club was headed for sustained success. “With the list and resources we have around us, we can develop into a team that’s a juggernaut,” Hogan said. “If we can (do it) from where we are now, then, you can look back at this and say ‘look at that’. “We can be one of those (success) stories that everyone wants to be.” Hogan is central to that plan. And with Fremantle already making a $700,000 a year play for Greater Western Sydney forward Cameron McCarthy, rivals will also swoon for WA-born Hogan. Clubs are on the lookout for trade targets 18 months in advance, these days. For Melbourne, the foundation work for Hogan’s contract extension is already well under way, as the club works to beef-up the marking options around him. As exciting as he is, Hogan can’t be the only forward line hero in red and blue.

I'll just let my signature doing the talking...

Should I take this as a: "Our Pick 2 for Lewis Jetta and Gary Rohan" type comment, like you pulled last year, or were you talking to a hobo outside Richmond station?

You'd do a straight swap of Melksham for Watts? Dear lord!

Does everyone on here own a small business or something? FMD I'd love a public holiday off.

If he is one of the players involved in the WADA case then we can't look at him. It's really that simple for me.

He had a good relationship eith Mcartney. He is a much better midfield depth then Jones Bail etc.. i rated him highly in his under 18s year. Reminds me of Lachie Neale.

I'll take anything at the moment.

Footy's tough, but clubs have shown that if they think the player is good enough, they will wait a long time. See Daniel Menzel for an extreme example. Not suggesting Trengove is as good a player - just saying that in between "footy's tough" (Jamie Bennell being delisted after doing his ACL) and "as long as it takes" (Menzel), there are a range of possibilities. Trengove is at the point now where we've lost any opportunity for salvage value. Shares are at $0.01 and our losses already realized. There is only upside - there is nothing to lose by waiting and seeing what will happen. We always seem to have enough poor players to move on without needing to scrap players who could still make it. The club backed him with this new contract and I do too.

Big Maxy has bolted into the limelight. His ruck work is outstanding with many deft, controlled hit outs and his pack marking has improved out of sight. Love his agility when the ball is on the ground. It is a long way down for a guy his size. I am looking forward to his continued development. Well done Max.

I genuinely hope Watts is a Demon in 2016.

Geebus crispies, we're moving players on because of 'body language' now? He has oddly slumped shoulder posture and kind of sad, Eeyore eyes. Has had them since before he was drafted and has had them whether he was playing well or badly. Maybe people will be happy and offer him a three-year deal is he gets some training during the off-season, learns a bit of pigeon-chested strutting, maybe get an 80s tennis headband to add some attitude.

Yeah! What would that buffoon Goodwin know if he likes Melksham? It's not like he's coached with him or worked closely with him for several years or anything. We fans clearly know more than that idiot and his terrible judgement.

I'd rather he stayed at Adelaide than went to bloody Geelong. Sick of clubs being able to prolong their time at the top thanks to free agency. It's an abomination.

Not when a bunch of those who finished behind him missed huge chunks of the year

I have been a supporter of Jack all the way, despite some anger at a few incidents and I can see why he would be considered for a trade. However I thought he improved his game this year, actually took a couple of hard marks after the debacle head duck game and got a bit better. Given his height, versatility and skills and the fact that we are getting harder and better all over the ground, we can afford to keep Jack and hope that he becomes the player we would like him to be. The fact that he seems to want to stay is another plus.

Confirmation right there.

Oh but the employers can pay. Profits are high. LOL Socialists are good at spending other people's money until there is none of it left and all the business and jobs in Australia have been sold offshore. The CBD will be dead. And the GF parade will be as well.

Four years for this pissant.. We're getting a dislike button on demonland yeah?

sadly,wont happen he has stated that the pies are his preference

His done what?