Kozzy Homesick & Wants to Leave?

[Lexinator 1,489]

9 hours ago, layzie said:

@DemonlandI like this version slightly better. Could you please adopt it for future incidents - i.e for later today?

[Stevienic23 1,183]

27 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

And you know this conversation was not had because….?

You also realize that the club has known about his desire to get home for a while now and are enraged beyond belief that it was leaked early? 

Nibbler was open to going to either SA club. Crows were the only ones interested. Hence he is going for maximum value. 
With someone like ANB, his value to us was always going to far exceed his trade value. It sucks, but much like with Clarry situation, sometimes doing the right thing by your people is more important than “winning”. 

I have also heard the club was dirty about this being leaked and we ended up down the route we did to turn it into a positive PR thing to muffle out the Trac noise

[Stevienic23 1,183]

12 hours ago, fr_ap said:

Mate he had a horror year and couldn't get the money he was offered last year. He's taken the $ and security and will back himself to get back to that value...and then request 

He broke up with his mrs

[Dr. Gonzo 23,665]

49 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

And you know this conversation was not had because….?

You also realize that the club has known about his desire to get home for a while now and are enraged beyond belief that it was leaked early? 

Nibbler was open to going to either SA club. Crows were the only ones interested. Hence he is going for maximum value. 
With someone like ANB, his value to us was always going to far exceed his trade value. It sucks, but much like with Clarry situation, sometimes doing the right thing by your people is more important than “winning”. 

What would ANB have done if the Crows weren't interested either?

[sue 8,991]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

What would ANB have done if the Crows weren't interested either?

Who knows. Maybe he'd have given up footy.  Since most of us have no idea of what his family cirumstances are, these questions make little sense except add fuel to the fire.    It's pretty clear Jaded knows what's what and it quite rightly keeping stum about matter that we don't need to know (though maybe some want to know). I'll accept what she says.

[BangBnagBang 578]

13 hours ago, Jack7 said:

Port have a crack at Kozzie every year

 

Why don't we offer the world to bring Zac Butters home,he probably won't come but just to Pizz Port off every year like they do to us,

7 year,$10 Million,just to get him thinking

Can't stand September Pretender Hinkley!!!

Butters will come back at some stage. Doesn't want to buy a house or get a girlfriend as he cant commit to Adel long term. Terrible way to live your life.

[Young Angus 684]

This is the worst, the club is feeding us all bill [censored] and heads must roll, we want and deserve the actual truth you pack of bastards!

[Demonland 70,163]

 

[DemonWA 3,883]

9 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Because you don’t know why Nibbler is leaving. 
I am not going to say anything else as it’s nobody’s business. 

Just respect his decision and understand that the club is being accommodating to him for the right reasons. 

 

Most members are in the same boat as me I'd suspect. 

Both players are from other states. Both players with young children. Clearly you're implying Nibblers situation has layers of challenges that perhaps Kozzys might not. If that's the case I think the club should make that clearer because at the moment I feel like we have set a president that we'll let players walk from contracts. Completely opposite to the hard line Stance we've taken with Petty and Tommo in recent years

[DubDee 24,276]

Just think of all the draft picks we'll have when we have no players left!

[Jaded No More 67,532]

2 minutes ago, DemonWA said:

If that's the case I think the club should make that clearer because at the moment I feel like we have set a president that we'll let players walk from contracts. Completely opposite to the hard line Stance we've taken with Petty and Tommo in recent years

How have we set a precedent?

We have categorically stated we won't be trading Trac, and other than one half cocked media report yesterday, has the club said anything about Kosi wanting to leave, let alone that they will let him?
Did his manager not come out a week ago and say he was happy at Melbourne? 
Expressing homesickness and a desire to get home more often is NOT the same as asking to leave.

There are different challenges around ANB which neither you nor I have any right to know about. This is the private life of a player and his family, and the whole thing would have been done in a completely different way from both his and the club's perspective, if once again someone had not leaked it! 

Whoever did leak it, and I have no idea who it was, should be utterly ashamed of themselves. It was a pathetic betrayal of a much loved player, who equally has a lot of love for our club and is very much sad to leave. 

 

[demoncat 912]

6 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Just think of all the draft picks we'll have when we have no players left!

Josh Smilie, Jagga Smith, Harvey Langford, Sam Lalor and Luke Trainor - YOU are Melbourne Demons

[Deez21 155]

This is almost reaching levels of taking the [censored]. 
He had the chance to go home but chose to sign a 4 year deal, then when the club is in turmoil he plays the homesick card.
Hope the club tells him where to stick it.

But from another perspective, the club is in absolute turmoil right now. How could a coach possibly survive when your 2 most important players are desperate to leave (and they're not the only 2), another leader is jumping ship, you have another star at a crossroads and a player banned for illegal substances.
How is he untouchable in this situation?

[dazzledavey36 52,641]

 

[adonski 10,774]

9 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Josh Smilie, Jagga Smith, Harvey Langford, Sam Lalor and Luke Trainor - YOU are Melbourne Demons

We should trade everyone except for Trac. Have him run round with Vic Metro on the mcg in 2025

[Jaded No More 67,532]

5 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

This is almost reaching levels of taking the [censored]. 
He had the chance to go home but chose to sign a 4 year deal, then when the club is in turmoil he plays the homesick card.
Hope the club tells him where to stick it.

But from another perspective, the club is in absolute turmoil right now. How could a coach possibly survive when your 2 most important players are desperate to leave (and they're not the only 2), another leader is jumping ship, you have another star at a crossroads and a player banned for illegal substances.
How is he untouchable in this situation?

Do you know for certain that Kosi is desperate to leave? Or is that just more media spin?

ANB who is the other leader I presume you refer to in regards to 'jumping ship', is not leaving by choice but by necessity. 

I can tell you categorically that the main reason Kos signed for 4 years, was because of Goodwin. 

Now if you happen to know who the other players are that are desperate to leave, I would love to get some names, because the recent signings of so many players would indicate that either they are happy, or that we are holding a gun to their head.

Edited August 28 by Jaded No More

[rpfc 28,034]

14 hours ago, Demonland said:

[whatwhat say what 22,031]

if he wants to go back to sa / wa...then he wants to go, but it would seem clear to me that if we can get the deal done then it'll be sooner rather than later

i think we're all mature enough to realise that, at some point, he's going to want to leave melbourne (the city)

it will no doubt be at same stage during this current contract - he'll want to be 'settled' in a home state before his first born starts school, you'd think, which will be around the time of the current contract expiring

[Deez21 155]

4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Do you know for certain that Kosi is desperate to leave? Or is that just more media spin?

ANB who is the other leader I presume you refer to in regards to 'jumping ship', is not leaving by choice but by necessity. 

I can tell you categorically that the main reason Kos signed for 4 years, was because of Goodwin. 

Now if you happen to know who the other players are that are desperate to leave, I would love to get some names, because the recent signings of so many players would indicate that either they are happy, or that we are holding a gun to their head.

Yet 3 of those 3 resigning are the ones that have told the club they want to leave?

I've already mentioned another player that is homesick although nothing against the MFC, he loves the club, But you can't possibly think the coach (and especially Richardson) can survive a debacle like this?

In a post that got deleted yesterday I indicated that Petracca would be satisfied if Goodwin and Richardson were moved on, and in the same post I indicated Carlton and Petracca have been flirting for a longer time than the media has known which was confirmed by Morris last night.

The club is on it's knees and a review of EVERY position is desperately needed, especially the coach and head of football operations 

 

[DubDee 24,276]

24 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Josh Smilie, Jagga Smith, Harvey Langford, Sam Lalor and Luke Trainor - YOU are Melbourne Demons

Sign them all up to 7 year deals!

 

What could go wrong!?

[Jaded No More 67,532]

Just now, Deez21 said:

Yet 3 of those 3 resigning are the ones that have told the club they want to leave?

The club is on it's knees and a review of EVERY position is desperately needed, especially the coach and head of football operations 

 

ANB and Kosi did not re-sign this year. Nor has Trac. 
Are you saying that JVR, Langdon and Disco who all re-signed this year told the club they want to leave?

I am totally agreeing with you on the last part of your post. We absolutely need a review of every position, and I have no doubt that Goody will come under review, as he should. But IMO there are people sitting above him who are a far bigger problem than he is. The overall sense I got is that the players really like and respect Goodwin.

[Lucifers Hero 38,865]

Managers saying a player is happy and going nowhere is the equivalent of a Board saying a coach has their full support ...

Edited August 28 by Lucifers Hero

[Deemania since 56 6,547]

15 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

That is what I heard on the news report as well.

Let us hope that is the case.

[Demonland 70,163]

 

[Roost it far 7,330]

20 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

Yet 3 of those 3 resigning are the ones that have told the club they want to leave?

I've already mentioned another player that is homesick although nothing against the MFC, he loves the club, But you can't possibly think the coach (and especially Richardson) can survive a debacle like this?

In a post that got deleted yesterday I indicated that Petracca would be satisfied if Goodwin and Richardson were moved on, and in the same post I indicated Carlton and Petracca have been flirting for a longer time than the media has known which was confirmed by Morris last night.

The club is on it's knees and a review of EVERY position is desperately needed, especially the coach and head of football operations 

 

Who are you exactly and what benefits are you getting posting these rumours?