NON-MFC: Round 06

[Sir Why You Little 37,307]

AFL gets more amateur every week 

That was holding the ball. 
But The Croms blew that anyway, so many chances

Rachele on National TV [censored] himself 

[ElDiablo14 5,036]

Between the umpires and the Charlie Cameron Youi ads... AFL at its finest (meaning putrid).

[deegirl 1,584]

6 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Ugh. Brad Scott makes his brother seem likeable.

Let’s not get silly, we can hate both equally 😁

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Draper making light if his deliberate planking on the ball after game

It was obvious to all but the petrified umpires

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

Damnit!! Typhus it is…

[Left Foot Snap 2,560]

24 minutes ago, DubDee said:

hey he saw it paid for Merrett so thought it must be ok

Would help if they actually touched Walker's head though.

Edited April 19, 2024 by Left Foot Snap
Clarity

[Diamond_Jim 12,687]

What a horrible game. Watched it on fast forward.

What has happened to Adelaide's exciting corridor game?

Most goals were scrambled kicks or hail mary's.

[Maldonboy38 6,406]

Appalling from Rachele - serious errors and the old-fashioned footsteps. Not much better from  Tex. I actually feel a bit for Nicks. His system looks good and his personnel is also OK, but the players repeatedly cannot execute in critical moments due to total brain fades from individuals.

But that non decision while Draper is lying on the ball - umpires need to be dropped for that one. 

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Nothing like an Essendon win to get the DL natives restless 😬 and we have the bye.

You’re not helping the situation, DZ! 😅

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

8 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

You’re not helping the situation, DZ! 😅

Wait until Pies and Blues win.

[Deesprate 1,324]

Terrible umpiring re Draper but maybe karma for three minutes of trying to milk frees. Nicks should be filthy his players didn’t focus on winning rather than umpires. On every metric Bombers should have won in a canter.

[Demon Dynasty 17,130]

Is it just me or do the peptides tend to over celebrate H&A wins a little too much?  It looked like they'd just won a final singing the song

[Jaded No More 68,975]

Adelaide being rubbish is good for us. 
Either it makes Petty rethink his choices, or it leaves them with better draft picks to give us 

[monoccular 17,642]

16 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

It's not coincidental that both Melbourne and St Kilda looked exhausted from the first quarter of their third match after consecutive 6 and 5 day gaps.

That's accumulative fatigue playing out right there.

Not heart, not effort, not game plan, not coaching, not personnel.

Touché

10 hours ago, binman said:

Not taking a pot shot at you BBP, but your post highlights a real bug bear of mine. 

As even occasional dl posters would know, I'm of the view that the impact of fatigue (what ever its causes may be) on performance is routinely ignored.

And if it is ignored, any subsequent assessment or analysis is fundamentally flawed.

My bug bear is this perspective (not mine specifically, but in the general sense) is often misrepresented.

The suggestion or implication being that fatigue is used as an excuse and that other factors (eg coaching, tactics, flaws in method, strength of opponent etc etc) are ignored or given short shrift.

A related bug bear is the conflation of reasons for poor performance with excuses for poor performance. Saying fatigue was a factor in our loss to the lions is not making an excuse, it is suggesting a possible causal factor.

So, for example, there are a number of posters, me included, who have suggested fatgue was a factor in our performance against the lions.

But I have not read a single post that solely or mostly blamed our recent schedule for our loss to Brisbane. 

Personally I'm of the view it was a significant factor, but of course far from the only factor.

 I'm probably an outlier, but I also think it was the most significant factor - because pretty much any other factor is exacerbated by fatigue.

For example, in the simplest terms we lost because the lions were much harder at it than us, as evidenced by being smashed for cps, pressure and tackles. No argument there.

But logically, tackling, applying elite pressure and winning contested possessions is a real challeng if across the board players are fatgued.

On the saints performance I 100% think fatigue was a significant factor in, and one of the reasons for, their performance.

I would argue if someone doesn’t, then, to be completely frank, they do not understand AFL football circa 2024.

But is fatigue an excuse for their performance? No.

And in fact, if you accept fatigue was a factor in both ours and the saints performance, there is another data point to consider.

Playing a team at their level, the saints were completely and utterly woeful. Beaten in every quarter, never in the game, they were ultimately smashed by 10 goals and despite being one of the most defensive teams in the AFL conceded a crazy 124 points. Even factoring in the fatigue it was a shocking performance.

Coming of our 5 day break, we were able to beat crows on their home deck despite completely hitting the wall in the last quarter. Impressive.

We then play the lions, and whilst we had a seven day break, we were clearly feeling the impact of 4 games in 19 days and were obviously fatigued.

Like the saints, we also played a team at our level, one that was up and about and as evidenced by their numbers, not fatigued.

Despite that we kept one of the best offences to 82 points and only lost by 22 points.

Sure, we played poorly, but analysed through that lens, suddenly the performance does not look so bad.

Thanks binman - great analysis as expected. 

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8 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Is it just me or do the peptides tend to over celebrate H&A wins a little too much?  It looked like they'd just won a final singing the song

You watched them singing the song? Why??? Anything short of having a gun held to your head is unacceptable. 

[Brownie 6,066]

3 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

BT quote of the round/season so far….

”Taylor Walker. So intelligent.”

He's speaking from a very low baseline 

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,315]

I think I'll pop onto the Crows forum in BigFooty.

Wonder what they're saying about Rachele?

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

AFL gets more amateur every week 

That was holding the ball. 
But The Croms blew that anyway, so many chances

Rachele on National TV [censored] himself 

Rachel (yes i said Rachel for obvious reasons) cost them the game in the last, but Ess squandered alot of shots on goal throughout the game.

[Demon Dynasty 17,130]

5 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

You watched them singing the song? Why??? Anything short of having a gun held to your head is unacceptable. 

Yes good point WC.   I usually don't and turn off before the songs even played after the siren.

Though it dd jog my long but somewhat dormant disdain for anything red & black.

The classic was that possibky their worst player on the night, who almost cost them the game from planking on the ball at the end and was saved by umpire incompetance, was the main one over celebrating as if he'd just won a flag 🤮

[Demon Dynasty 17,130]

7 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Wowwwweeeee. 
 

Crows played for frees. Fogarty. Walker. 
 

Then should have got the holding the ball on Draper.  Sure they were robbed but 🤣🤣🤣who cares !!!!  

BT that you!!??

[Redleg 41,942]

9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Draper making light if his deliberate planking on the ball after game

It was obvious to all but the petrified umpires

Don’t blame umpire number 25 who was the closest umpire. I posted when we played the Dogs, he was probably the worst umpire I had ever seen. Have seen him a few times since and he has got worse.

Rare to see Crows get less frees at home. 21-12 we copped is more the usual.

Anyway it wasn’t the umpires who cost Crows the game, it was their horrible disposal. Rachelle also dropped a couple of sitters right in front and missed a couple of shots. Too many fumbled and butchered the ball. If Bombers kicked for goal a little better, it would have been an easy win.

If Port beat Pies and Bombers can also, Pies’ season would be very shaky.

[monoccular 17,642]

10 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Another result influenced by umpires inability to make an obvious call

Really is amateur hour (or year) at AFL HQ

Not hour, year : decade, century or millennium 

10 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

I’m not a big “conspiracy” guy, but it is so insanely obvious that goal umpires have been told to review as many scores as possible, because Crypto Bet have told the AFL they’ll give them money every time it happens. 

Strange thing advertising.    Crypto want their name and logos on the screen as often as they can yet repeatedly show that they have a “rather ordinary” product.  

[Kent 2,918]

15 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Not hour, year : decade, century or millennium 

Strange thing advertising.    Crypto want their name and logos on the screen as often as they can yet repeatedly show that they have a “rather ordinary” product.  

Looked up crypto  You can trade 350 plus currencies including one called Dogecoin or is it Dodgeycoin

I like the sound of that Buy Buy Buy!

 

[Demonsone 2,050]

21 hours ago, BoBo said:

Giants not playing at their home stadium for 7 rounds in a row is madness

AFL are drunk on opening round & Gather round circus ..  more concerned on razza matazz then integrity, dees & saints looked cooked full stop! Simple play each other once at home & the following season away .. teams playing bottom teams twice getting an inflated % and inflating their ladder position for home finals & top 4 positions double chance 

Edited April 19, 2024 by Demonsone

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,935]

12 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

BT quote of the round/season so far….

”Taylor Walker. So intelligent.”

Taylor's definition of multitasking is moving your lips and verbalising at the same time.