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On 22/11/2023 at 20:43, Storm Boy said:

https://omny.fm/shows/wide-world-of-sports-6pr/koltyn-tholstrup-and-his-move-to-melbourne

This is a great interview with Koltyn Tholstrup on 6PR in WA. Koltyn spoke very well and wants to play Round 1 2024. Arriving in Melbourne on Saturday and at training on Monday. 

Was expecting lots of ‘stoked’ and ‘super excited’ and ‘get around it’ and 18yo kid with a mullet and rude sports sunnies. None of that. Great listen, he sounds like a gem, hoping he can play like one too!

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14 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

There is a particular wave front at Esperance allegedly famous among surfers, and known as 'the cyclops'.

Between that home town detail and the sunnies and being a bit of a beast, I think we might have a name.

“Kolclops” yes it’s ridiculous but fun to muse over. a nick name. 

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On 22/11/2023 at 20:43, Storm Boy said:

https://omny.fm/shows/wide-world-of-sports-6pr/koltyn-tholstrup-and-his-move-to-melbourne

This is a great interview with Koltyn Tholstrup on 6PR in WA. Koltyn spoke very well and wants to play Round 1 2024. Arriving in Melbourne on Saturday and at training on Monday. 

Yesterday he told me he was “adapting to Melbourne.” (It was cold and drizzling) and I said, “you know how the saying goes: don’t like the weather? Stick around for five minutes.” He laughed and said, “no, it’s not the weather, I like the weather, it’s the time zone difference.” Bless him. 🥹

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On 22/11/2023 at 20:11, Demon Disciple said:

This is a fallacy that keeps getting trotted out by many supporters. We have not finished in the top 4 this year or last. 2021, 22, 23 = 1st, 5th & 6th respectively.

Do we have to give our double chance back?

But seriously, the final ladder order is the positions at the end of the home and away season, hence this:

https://www.afl.com.au/ladder?Competition=1&Season=52&Round=781

And this:

https://www.afl.com.au/ladder?Competition=1&Season=43&Round=610

So we absolutely finished top 4 in 2022 and 2023.  

You might be confusing the ladder with the draft order.

Weirdly, i did quick google but couldn't find much detail on this, but i think I'm right in saying the draft order for the teams that made finals is set post finals.

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42 minutes ago, binman said:

Do we have to give our double chance back?

But seriously, the final ladder order is the positions at the end of the home and away season, hence this:

https://www.afl.com.au/ladder?Competition=1&Season=52&Round=781

And this:

https://www.afl.com.au/ladder?Competition=1&Season=43&Round=610

So we absolutely finished top 4 in 2022 and 2023.  

You might be confusing the draft order and ladder.

Weirdly i couldn't find any detail on this with a quick google but i think I'm right in saying the draft order for the teams that made finals is set post finals.

That’s correct @binman, draft order is set at the end of the season and final placings are confirmed. Premier should notionally hold the final pick of the first round.

Also, would happily give our double chance back to erase the memory of at least one of those finals losses!

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3 hours ago, binman said:

Do we have to give our double chance back?

But seriously, the final ladder order is the positions at the end of the home and away season, hence this:

https://www.afl.com.au/ladder?Competition=1&Season=52&Round=781

And this:

https://www.afl.com.au/ladder?Competition=1&Season=43&Round=610

So we absolutely finished top 4 in 2022 and 2023.  

You might be confusing the ladder with the draft order.

Weirdly, i did quick google but couldn't find much detail on this, but i think I'm right in saying the draft order for the teams that made finals is set post finals.

 

2 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

That’s correct @binman, draft order is set at the end of the season and final placings are confirmed. Premier should notionally hold the final pick of the first round.

Also, would happily give our double chance back to erase the memory of at least one of those finals losses!

I don't think that is correct, the final ladder is after the finals and the draft order and the next year's fixture (groups of six) are based on this.

The Premiers finished first no matter where they were placed at the end of the home and away.

Brisbane finished second, Carlton third, GWS fourth and we finished sixth.

 

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39 minutes ago, old55 said:

 

I don't think that is correct, the final ladder is after the finals and the draft order and the next year's fixture (groups of six) are based on this.

The Premiers finished first no matter where they were placed at the end of the home and away.

Brisbane finished second, Carlton third, GWS fourth and we finished sixth.

 

Correct, the draft is based on the ladder after finals have concluded.

So it just depends on how you look at it, we were top 4 after the regular season finished, but finished 6th after finals.

So technically both are right, just depends how you look at it.

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1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Correct, the draft is based on the ladder after finals have concluded.

So it just depends on how you look at it, we were top 4 after the regular season finished, but finished 6th after finals.

So technically both are right, just depends how you look at it.

We were 2nd after Round 8 too. I think the post finals position is what matters. Sure H&A finishing position is important but only because of its influence on the final position.

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Up close the kid looks like he’s got a lot of upside physically once he gets into an elite program. 
I was expecting him to be thicker through the hips and legs based off his highlights but he is just a lump of clay.

That’s pretty exciting to think about given he’s already played senior WAFL footy.

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1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Correct, the draft is based on the ladder after finals have concluded.

So it just depends on how you look at it, we were top 4 after the regular season finished, but finished 6th after finals.

So technically both are right, just depends how you look at it.

Well explained, it's not that hard is it.

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17 hours ago, old55 said:

 

I don't think that is correct, the final ladder is after the finals and the draft order and the next year's fixture (groups of six) are based on this.

The Premiers finished first no matter where they were placed at the end of the home and away.

Brisbane finished second, Carlton third, GWS fourth and we finished sixth.

 

I may have phrased incorrectly, I think we’re saying the same thing.

By end of season I was meaning post finals and season in entirety, not h&a season.

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1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

I may have phrased incorrectly, I think we’re saying the same thing.

By end of season I was meaning post finals and season in entirety, not h&a season.

Agreed  try going down to Swan Street on a Richmond home gameday and advise them that the Tigers actually finished 3rd in 2017, 2019 and 2020.

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20 hours ago, JJJ said:

Up close the kid looks like he’s got a lot of upside physically once he gets into an elite program. 
I was expecting him to be thicker through the hips and legs based off his highlights but he is just a lump of clay.

That’s pretty exciting to think about given he’s already played senior WAFL footy.

JJJ - I hope you mean by 'a lump of clay' that he is ripe for molding, rather than being an inert blob which is how some could misinterpret it 🙄

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18 hours ago, monoccular said:

JJJ - I hope you mean by 'a lump of clay' that he is ripe for molding, rather than being an inert blob which is how some could misinterpret it 🙄

Definitely the former. 
 

There are plenty of inert blobs when the former players catch up though.

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