PREGAME: Rd 22 vs Carlton

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1 hour ago, In Harmes Way said:

I’ll gamble responsibly and put your house on it 

Already have

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Is the Matildas match still being shown live on the big screen or has FIFA said no.

Edited August 11, 2023 by YearOfTheDees

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On 8/6/2023 at 11:26 PM, Older demon said:

I hope Clayton is back and he replaces Harmes. Carlton run with Pittonet and De Koenig rucking so I think we need to leave Roo down forward and bring in another 2nd ruck/forward and go with either Grundy or Schache. 

Petty won't be back for a long time and we need to work out who plays finals and I strongly believe we cannot go in with Max as our solo ruck as good as he is. Not having a VFL game this week rather complicates things.

Prescient 

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38 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Is the Matildas match still being shown live on the big screen or has FIFA said no.

Apparently being shown 

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3 hours ago, binman said:

That's my take too.

On Hibbo, i reckon part of the thinking is also trying to reduce the risk of impact injury, which given the way he plays is always a risk, because Goody is dead keen to have him fit and raring to go come finals - which makes perfect sense becuase he is built for finals,

Very similar approach to how the Cats managed Danger last year (not dissimilar players in terms of their intensity and attack on the ball).

And with Smith, in addition to managing his minutes and keeping him match fit, it is very likely he is going to be designated sub come finals so it also makes sense to give him some really sold minutes down back to get used the defensive systems, build synergy with the other defenders and get good touch because he may have to come on early in games.

I’m more positive on Smith 

I think any fwd needs time on the park to sync with the midfield and time leads and it’s worth trying him in another role than a sub

i like smith’s closing speed and defensive pressure 

he is more of a pack crashes than Grundy and that is good for our small forwards 

 

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4 minutes ago, loges said:

Apparently being shown 

@Deebauched seeing it on the big screen:

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4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

That's a tremendous crowd if it happens considering we couldn't get 50K to our home Friday night game in round 12.

Carlton had lost their last 4 and looked awful going into that game. 

Now that they’re good and it’s their home game, the crowd should be much bigger. 

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On 8/10/2023 at 9:27 AM, Demon_spurs said:

Sorry I don't normally correct but it's les bleues not les bleus (wiki: The France women's national football team has been known or nicknamed as the "Les Bleues (The Blues)".)

As an aside: all part of the push for feminisation of French - usually just by adding an e at the end and la before when/if applicable. Gets messy in a language where nouns are gendered. e.g. referring to a female government minister as madame la ministre, when it should be madame le ministre. 

On the other hand, dick in french is feminine (la bite), so as Goodwin would say, there's a bit going on in this space.

Edited August 11, 2023 by bing181

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14 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Carlton had lost their last 4 and looked awful going into that game. 

Now that they’re good and it’s their home game, the crowd should be much bigger. 

I looked at game day info.

It states, "the Ponsford Stand level 4 will be closed."

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/matches/4965#match-information

If they expect 70 000, then why have the top of the Ponsford closed? 

 

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29 minutes ago, loges said:

Apparently being shown 

They have permission to show it on the small TVs around the ground but are still in talks with FIFA about using the big screens. 

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Just now, YearOfTheDees said:

They have permission to show it on the small TVs around the ground but are still in talks with FIFA about using the big screens. 

Why?

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Why?

FIFA want a guarantee the game will continue on screen if the AFL game starts. The quarter final should be well and truly over but they want a guarantee. That or do not start the AFL game. At least that's whats i the press at the moment.

Edited August 11, 2023 by YearOfTheDees
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[binman 38,110]

28 minutes ago, kev martin said:

I looked at game day info.

It states, "the Ponsford Stand level 4 will be closed."

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/matches/4965#match-information

If they expect 70 000, then why have the top of the Ponsford closed? 

 

Doesnt sound right. Closed for now perhaps

They sell tix in blocks, which is very frustrating. I assume it's so they don't open an area like top of the ponsford if they don't have to coz otherwise they have to staff it.

But it forces people to buy tix in an area they don't nessarily want to sit in.

It was the same deal for the tigers game

I'm going as a GA, as I did for the tigers game. Got a perfect seat top of the Ponsford down near the bottom of it.

I read earlier in this thread from fear the beard they are expecting 70k. If they haven't yet opened the top of the Ponsford for tix (which I hope they haven't) my guess would be 70k is unlikely.

You'd have to think the excepted rain and the clash with the matlidas game will keep it to aprox 55-60k

Edited August 11, 2023 by binman

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18 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

FIFA want a guarantee the game will continue on screen if the AFL game starts. The quarter final should be well and truly over but they want a guarantee. That or do not start the AFL game. At least that's whats i the press at the moment.

They (MFC v Blue) might have to delay, if extra time and penalties happen.

A normal game goes for 2 hrs, extra time about 40 minutes (two 15 min halves), and penalties must be another 10. If that happens, our game won't start till 8 pm. Matildas kick off at 5 pm.

Could be a late night.

Edited August 11, 2023 by kev martin

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5 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

That's a tremendous crowd if it happens considering we couldn't get 50K to our home Friday night game in round 12.

Lot of bandwagon Blues that come out of the wood work when they start to show something. 

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43 minutes ago, kev martin said:

I looked at game day info.

It states, "the Ponsford Stand level 4 will be closed."

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/matches/4965#match-information

If they expect 70 000, then why have the top of the Ponsford closed? 

 

MCG website has top of the Ponsford (Q29-Q36) open for GA Kev.

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5 hours ago, binman said:

 

(we are the better team, have been playing at a higher level, have much fewer best 22 not available - and the blues form isn't as good as it looks from the win loss column - the Saints are average, the Pies looked flat as a tack, Port had seven outs and forget about the others)

I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees it this way. Yes, Carlton are a better side now, but they’ve played every team at the right time. Pies off, Port basically tanked that game with 7 changes, the Saints have lost their way, Eagles don’t count, for every good Hawks game they put in a shocker, while the Suns and Freo have had a terrible second half of the year. 

I think tomorrow they’ll get found out and they’ll be fighting for a top 8 position for the last two rounds like last year.

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10 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees it this way. Yes, Carlton are a better side now, but they’ve played every team at the right time. Pies off, Port basically tanked that game with 7 changes, the Saints have lost their way, Eagles don’t count, for every good Hawks game they put in a shocker, while the Suns and Freo have had a terrible second half of the year. 

I think tomorrow they’ll get found out and they’ll be fighting for a top 8 position for the last two rounds like last year.

In their loss to the blues they were coming off a six day break after their epic against Port.

It's worth remembering that port got hammered by the crows, and also looked flat as a tack, after their loss to the pies.

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7 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Correct. As an example, if we kick 100 points tomorrow , we need to keep the Blues to 75 points, or less to mainatin or increase %.

Beating the Blues by a goal or two drops our %.  Not by a lot but thats the effect.

To be honest the final percentage doesn't really matter. It's more the percentage when compared to the teams around us. That's why I tend to look at the points for and against difference. With the obvious advantage to a lower points against if the points difference is the same.

Collingwood currently have a points differential of around 400 points, we have one of around 380. If collingwood lose 2 and win 1, while we win 3 you would think we would make up those 20 points in our wins. A margin of 1 goal in each of the games should mean we finish on top. Obviously it's a moot point if Collingwood win by a lot in their 1 win. And Brisbane are only a few points behind us in their points difference so they have a realistic shot of overtaking us as well. 

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34 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

MCG website has top of the Ponsford (Q29-Q36) open for GA Kev.

What is the website URL?

 

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30 minutes ago, kev martin said:

What is the website URL?

 

https://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2023/august/afl-round-22---carlton-v-melbourne-august-12-2023

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53 minutes ago, Deefiant said:

To be honest the final percentage doesn't really matter. It's more the percentage when compared to the teams around us. That's why I tend to look at the points for and against difference. With the obvious advantage to a lower points against if the points difference is the same.

Collingwood currently have a points differential of around 400 points, we have one of around 380. If collingwood lose 2 and win 1, while we win 3 you would think we would make up those 20 points in our wins. A margin of 1 goal in each of the games should mean we finish on top. Obviously it's a moot point if Collingwood win by a lot in their 1 win. And Brisbane are only a few points behind us in their points difference so they have a realistic shot of overtaking us as well. 

Another good way to track this.

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1 hour ago, YearOfTheDees said:

FIFA want a guarantee the game will continue on screen if the AFL game starts. The quarter final should be well and truly over but they want a guarantee. That or do not start the AFL game. At least that's whats i the press at the moment.

Seriously what a bunch of wankers. What does it matter if the game continues on screen or not 🙄

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Seriously what a bunch of wankers. What does it matter if the game continues on screen or not 🙄

They could have player World Cup Games at the best venue in the world but FIFA would not share any grounds.

Edited August 11, 2023 by YearOfTheDees

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Sorry...[censored] this showing Soccer [censored].

You're  adult....if you want to watch the soccer...go watch it somewhere (else)

There's a real footy game going on at tge G and people pay money etc to watch THAT .

Good luck to the girls... but lets keep footy...footy..

Go Dees