5 minutes ago, SFebes said:

I've said all year that Bont will win it. Another AFL darling....but of course, he is an outstanding player. From memory he did turn the ball over quite a bit in the first half of the season, but the media are always right up his clacker.

Bont is pure silk. IMO is the best player in the game, swap him with Daicos and Doggies finish bottom 4, whilst Pies would be certain PF attendance every year he plays. 

33 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Taranto?? Are they drunk? 

The umpires see him winning the footy and around the stoppages, where it ends up is probably the issue they don’t take into account 

There are other Brownlow predictors. This one is on Betfair which seems to use the ESPN model which is explained below.

https://www.betfair.com.au/hub/sports/afl/brownlow-medal-predictor/

ESPN is once again giving you an advantage with Jake Michaels' one-of-a-kind predictor, which has correctly picked seven out of the past eight winners, including Ollie Wines in 2021.

Most Brownlow Medal predictors use a standard 3-2-1 voting structure, mirroring what the umpires do after each game. ESPN's system, however, does things a little differently. A player can be allocated 3, 2.5, 2, 1.5, 1 or 0.5 votes per game, resulting in a much lower margin for error.

For example, in a game where it's difficult to split two players for best on ground honours, this system would give each 2.5 votes, as opposed to one being given 3 and the other receiving 2. Over the course of the season, the difference between the predictor and the actual votes a player tallies will be much closer, and therefore more accurate. There are still six votes allocated to players per match, and can be done through any combination of the above scores.

I prefer this model because it makes my pre season Melbourne Premiership/ Petracca Brownlow wager look a lot better.  😉 

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by Palace Dees
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You know your priorities are different to the media's when nearly every outlet is leading off their stories with what Nick Daicos's injury means to the Brownlow race.

This award is so insignificant in the real scheme of things and Collingwood's premiership chances were the real story. 

 

Everyone loves Bont. But i remember in the great GF that straight after Bont was given every accolade under the sun by BT, Oliver took a bit of responsibility for him and that was the end of Bont......

I doubt Trac will win or even get 2nd

30 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

I doubt Trac will win or even get 2nd

I'm not so sure. Will have polled regularly as shown by the Coaches votes. Does dynamic things that catch the eye. Every favourite has players taking votes away. Finishes the season with a bang and he's a huge chance.

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Taranto?? Are they drunk? 

Tim 'Matt Priddis' Taranto. 

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by John Demonic

42 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

I doubt Trac will win or even get 2nd

Bookies disagree.

Sportsbet market is:

Bont 2.0

Trac 2.75

Daicos 6.00

Next 21.00

I'd post a screenshot, but the powers that be here don't allow me to do so. 🙄

 

 

I've got a Brownlow predictor as well, and I've got Daicos first, Petracca second and Bont third.

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_brownlow.html

 

 

I reckon he'll win the coaches award now that Daicos is injured. Not sure about the Brownlow. Very hard to predict.

OMG the anointed Daicos / Magpies double now in serious doubt. 🤗🤗

Now for the Petracca / Demons double with Max or Clarrie for the Norm.  Or maybe ANB just to peeve some of our regular posters. 

2 horse race for the Brownlow.  I reckon Bont and Trac are both worthy winners

The amount of games we won over the dogs should get Trac home

Bont for mine. Not only has he matched Trac for output and impact this year he waves his arms around a lot so umps are bound to notice him.

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by demosaw

I reckon Jack Viney could pip trac for most brownlow votes this year. He has been incredible. But I don't think either of them will win it. 

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by Neitas bump

23 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

AFL website update on its Brownlow predictor

30 - Nick Daicos (Collingwood)
27 - Tim Taranto (Richmond)
26 - Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
25 - Jordan Dawson (Adelaide)
24 - Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
23 - Zak Butters (Port Adelaide)
23 - Christian Petracca (Melbourne)

The AFL employs the umpires. The umpires vote on the Brownlow. It is clearly wrong for the AFL to be making "predictions" on how many votes players might currently have earned. I know it's only meant to be a bit of fun, but it is clearly inappropriate.  

Petracca is in it up to his eyeballs.  The fact that he averages over 28 disposals and kicks goals helps.

Petracca has received coaches votes in 16 of 20 games compared to Bontempelli's 12.

All this means is that Petracca has been adjudicated to be in the top half dozen players on the ground in 80% of the games he's played.  Based on probability he's receiving plenty of Brownlow votes.

The main concern is that he may not get enough 3s.

If Petracca wins, I hope he end his acceptance speech with "And I'd like to thank Clayton Oliver's hamstring. If it wasn't for that, I couldn't possibly have won."

All fun, but the only award I care about is Max being called “dual…

Completely unrelated, but does anyone know why Trac isn’t on AFL360 player’s night anymore? It was great having him on the last couple of years but I don’t think he’s been on since before round 10 this year.

Christian Petracca still a "sneaky chance" to win the Brownlow Medal this year apparently? Especially if he has a Best-On-Ground performance against the Swans.

 

However, I will admit that a 2023 AFL Premiership Medallion and another Norm Smith Medal would be alot better!

He may have been a chance but his last three weeks haven't been his usual top stuff and alas I think has missed out.

6 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

He may have been a chance but his last three weeks haven't been his usual top stuff and alas I think has missed out.

Agreed. Bont would have got 2 votes in a losing side last week and Trac wouldn’t have got any. 
Possible that neither get votes for round 22. 
Trac would need a 3 vote game on Sunday and Bont a no vote game to be a chance. 
Butters is also very much still in contention IMO. 
 

Agreed. Trac needs a BOG desperately this week.
 

I still have N Daicos as my favourite followed by Butters, Bont, Neale (umps love him) and Trac.  

Trac has tailed off in the last 3 weeks since the Crows and Tigers games, and probably has failed to vote (v Roos v blues vHawks). I’d have loved to see him get 5-6 votes in these games to catch/pass Daicos. 

The irony is of course that if Dees beat Blues from Tracs match winning goal, then he might have snagged a vote or two  !!! 

The player that wins the Brownlow this year  will always have to put up with C'wood supporters and their mates in the media saying 'they only won it because our boy got injured'.   I guess that's better than saying someone only won it because he had expensive lawyers.