3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I believe there are 3 cases to be heard.

If JVR is last it could be late night on Demonland.

it's 4 cases now, uncle. extra one from sunday's games

I remember years ago, giving character evidence at the Tribunal, for a Demon who punched an opponent in a Reserves GF.

I told the Tribunal I was extremely disappointed with his action and that it was totally out of character and that I had made my feelings known to the player before the hearing.

The Tribunal said it was going to suspend for 4 games, but because of my strong character evidence, reduced the suspension to 2 games.

Pretty good result we all thought.

4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I remember years ago, giving character evidence at the Tribunal, for a Demon who punched an opponent in a Reserves GF.

I told the Tribunal I was extremely disappointed with his action and that it was totally out of character and that I had made my feelings known to the player before the hearing.

The Tribunal said it was going to suspend for 4 games, but because of my strong character evidence, reduced the suspension to 2 games.

Pretty good result we all thought.

Hey Red, I have this parking ticket would you chastise me and then mention I'm a good chap?

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I remember years ago, giving character evidence at the Tribunal, for a Demon who punched an opponent in a Reserves GF.

I told the Tribunal I was extremely disappointed with his action and that it was totally out of character and that I had made my feelings known to the player before the hearing.

The Tribunal said it was going to suspend for 4 games, but because of my strong character evidence, reduced the suspension to 2 games.

Pretty good result we all thought.

Neil 'Hangman' Busse - or before your time? Busse may have only presided over senior cases.

11 hours ago, rpfc said:

No, you have no right to just blatantly throw something out there that makes me feel this old. I’m getting my QC.

Which Queen?

14 hours ago, daisycutter said:

just saying that we have been poorly treated by the mrp/mro over the journey yet we make less fuss than our contemporaries and rarely appeal.  there's a perception that we just roll over too easily

I wonder what the facts actually reveal??? I suspect most the the paranoia on 'Land is baloney.

16 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Coincidentally, it's 8 years to the day since the successful Viney appeal. 

 

11 hours ago, rpfc said:

No, you have no right to just blatantly throw something out there that makes me feel this old. I’m getting my QC.

My apologies. I was wrong.

It was actually 9 years ago. It was in 2014 - remember those glorious times? Viney's successful appeal was probably the highlight of the year. 

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It was actually 9 years ago. It was in 2014 - remember those glorious times? Viney's successful appeal was probably the highlight of the year. 

I was reminded of those glorious days by the North-St Kilda match on the weekend. It was like watching Melbourne play Melbourne.

Common sense will prevail here. JVR will get off and be available for selection this week. 

20 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I think the converse is true. The AFL changed the system from a panel to one person to overcome concerns about  inconsistency. I'm not sure having a single person eliminates inconsistency - it just removes the argument that any inconsistency was due to having multiple people involved.

In fairness I believe the MRO outcomes are largely predictable, consistent and relatively easy to understand and compare. I also don't mind incidents such as the JVR spoil going to the tribunal on appeal as the MRO grades based on what they see and leave it to the club to argue whether JVR was trying to spoil the ball vs strike the player. While interpretations have changed and the panel may have taken the easy way out when it comes to Brownlow eligibility and finals in years past I think the system has been really good for at least 4 or 5 years now, at least to the point where I could not imagine how a better system would operate. For what it's worth I cannot see the JVR suspension being upheld on appeal but if course we will find out tonight.

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

Hey Red, I have this parking ticket would you chastise me and then mention I'm a good chap?

👍

Prosecution: “We would like to call our first witness, Jason Dunstall, impartial expert who witnessed the event.”

Tribunal: “Case dismissed, no penalty”

 

From all the comments by the so called expert commentators and those on 'Land, it seems to me that the AFL, to save face, should withdraw the charge. There was no sensible basis for charging van Rooyen.

2 hours ago, Smokey said:

Common sense will prevail here. JVR will get off and be available for selection this week. 

and then we'll probably rest him 😅

31 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

and then we'll probably rest him 😅

Which probably would be a good move. He is not setting the world on fire albeit I reckon he will be a very good forward for us. Getting hands on ball but not holding them. Young key forward played plenty of games in a row and must be feeling a few niggles here and there. Week off, rest up and come back in the next game.

For those that want to plan dinner tonight around JVR's hearing.

 

Geelong (Brad Close): 4pm

Melbourne (Jacob van Rooyen): 5:15pm

Carlton (Nic Newman): 6:30pm

 

Source: Mr Zita from twitter

Edited May 9, 20231 yr by Dee Zephyr

5 hours ago, ManDee said:

Hey Red, I have this parking ticket would you chastise me and then mention I'm a good chap?

Hey, please keep that between you and your bedroom 😋

He was holding the back of his head.  So it wasn't the spoil that hurt him, it was when he hit his head on the ground.

4 hours ago, Smokey said:

Common sense will prevail here. JVR will get off and be available for selection this week. 

Common sense and AFL in the same sentence?  What planet are you from.  Even less so from the star chamber tribunal.

48 minutes ago, stinga said:

He was holding the back of his head.  So it wasn't the spoil that hurt him, it was when he hit his head on the ground.

stinga - there was no contact between JVR and the back of his head.

He ran into Kozzie's leg earlier (though of course Koz didn't get the free for low contact) - maybe had GC$ followed concussion protocols he should not have even been on the ground.

Would be good if the podcast was on tonight so we could have live updates.

On 5/7/2023 at 10:38 PM, kev martin said:

I'm not so set on JVR, as he is being scapegoated. It is the inconsistency that concerns me. I also assume that concerns the players as well.

If they are serious about reducing brain damage, then he shouldn't hit the player with such force

 

You can't tell players to go at less than 100%. It's a tough game, players will get hurt - it's unavoidable.

Corn getting back in favour with Demon fans  being the only known media personality citing Chols strike on Bowey. 

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/09/kane-cornes-six-observations-from-round-8-of-the-2023-afl-season/

 

 

14 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Corn getting back in favour with Demon fans  being the only known media personality citing Chols strike on Bowey. 

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/09/kane-cornes-six-observations-from-round-8-of-the-2023-afl-season/

 

 

Yeah he was pretty up about it on radio last night. 

The vision released from behind the goals really does make this charge look like a farce hopefully some sanity prevails, and the lad is free to play this week. 

6 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yeah he was pretty up about it on radio last night. 

And so he should be it was clearly high and clearly high impact