Trade Rumours 2023

[Redleg 40,777]

1 hour ago, adonski said:

Reid back on, Norf by 200 points

 

Any North player that can mark, kick, handball, or even just run, will be managed.

[adonski 11,661]

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Any North player that can mark, kick, handball, or even just run, will be managed.

Lucky they don't have many of those then

[John Demonic 5,718]

So if Hawks beat Freo and GCS beat Norf, we get pick 4 and Nth pick 1

And if North win we get pick 5 but will somehow convince WCE to take it and other picks for pick 1?

Well colour me confused about who to barrack for.

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by John Demonic

[Adam The God 30,065]

6 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

So if Hawks beat Freo and GCS beat Norf, we get pick 4 and Nth pick 1

And if North win we get pick 5 but will somehow convince WCE to take it and other picks for pick 1?

Well colour me confused about who to barrack for.

 

 

 

I want North winning and us getting pick 5. Won't happen though.

[Travy14 1,914]

8 hours ago, Jontee said:

I heard different ages ago (from DL poster) that if Grundy moves on from the Dees the Pies are off the hook

Id probs go by the AFL Journo.

[Diamond_Jim 12,510]

Here's a good article listing the 202 players by club who are out of contract at season's end.

I see it lists Schache who I thought had another year

Melbourne (8): Luke Dunstan (unrestricted free agent), Michael Hibberd, James Jordon (unrestricted free agent), Jake Melksham (unrestricted free agent), Andy Moniz-Wakefield, Josh Schache, Deakyn Smith, Kye Turner.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/deal-or-no-deal-naming-the-202-afl-players-who-don-t-have-a-contract-for-2024-20230818-p5dxn7.html

[Jaded No More 68,855]

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Here's a good article listing the 202 players by club who are out of contract at season's end.

I see it lists Schache who I thought had another year

Melbourne (8): Luke Dunstan (unrestricted free agent), Michael Hibberd, James Jordon (unrestricted free agent), Jake Melksham (unrestricted free agent), Andy Moniz-Wakefield, Josh Schache, Deakyn Smith, Kye Turner.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/deal-or-no-deal-naming-the-202-afl-players-who-don-t-have-a-contract-for-2024-20230818-p5dxn7.html

Gees we are in a good spot. Not one player on this list who I will lose sleep over. 
Hibbo will retire and I reckon Melksham will get one year deal. 
The rest are a wait and see. My guess is JJ goes, we possibly rookie AMW, and the rest get delisted with Schache potentially getting another year if Grundy goes and we can’t find another ruck backup. 

[SFebes 4,884]

20 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

So if Hawks beat Freo and GCS beat Norf, we get pick 4 and Nth pick 1

And if North win we get pick 5 but will somehow convince WCE to take it and other picks for pick 1?

Well colour me confused about who to barrack for.

 

 

 

Add in the McKay compo as well haha

[SFebes 4,884]

Did others see the article on afl.com.au about the veterans list being reintroduced, could be handy for us going forward....

[Sir Why You Little 36,918]

Josh Schache is a really tough one. 
Last year i saw him play a game in Ballarat at CHB. He marked everything and did a lot of Ruck work. 
Is he the Backup for Max next year?

Will be a Fascinating trade period and off season. 
But we have a Cup to win first…

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Tom Hickey has just retired, so there’s the first domino to fall...

Play some hardball I reckon. Sydney’s 2nd round pick (from Hawthorn) which will end up being a 23 ish. Which I think is fair. 

I think we definitely try to secure GCS pick and then split  our pick 5 with GWS for 7 and 11.

Going into the draft with 4, 7 and 11 into the draft will be fantastic and can set us up for another 10 years. 

 

[Demon17 5,169]

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Josh Schache is a really tough one. 
Last year i saw him play a game in Ballarat at CHB. He marked everything and did a lot of Ruck work. 
Is he the Backup for Max next year?

 

Jason Taylor said that was why he was picked up by us.

[BDA 22,693]

8 hours ago, layzie said:

Geelong will be going hard for Grundy 

Reckon we exchange for their future first. Fire up the deathride again 

[Sir Why You Little 36,918]

7 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Jason Taylor said that was why he was picked up by us.

Not surprised by that at all. It was a great game

[BDA 22,693]

3 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Talking trades and high draft picks in August. There’s also the little thing called premiership contention for us. Well I never…

Old habits die hard

[spirit of norm smith 16,210]

22 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Josh Schache is a really tough one. 
Last year i saw him play a game in Ballarat at CHB. He marked everything and did a lot of Ruck work. 
Is he the Backup for Max next year?

Will be a Fascinating trade period and off season. 
But we have a Cup to win first…

Unfortunately the word “Schache” and the word “tough” cannot be used in the same sentence. I met him in the pre season and he is like Sam Weideman.  Nice young bloke. He’s not the answer for any future ruck/forward role.  I’d prefer a Haydn McLean type.  Hard and raw and physically at the footy.  
Schache has not physically developed and plays without real forward smarts to outbody or out think he’s opponent.  Relies on his pure talent but that’s not enough at AFL level.   

[John Demonic 5,718]

49 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Add in the McKay compo as well haha

And this GCS pick for points thing that us, dogs, and other clubs are trying to get their hands on. 

 

45 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Josh Schache is a really tough one. 
Last year i saw him play a game in Ballarat at CHB. He marked everything and did a lot of Ruck work. 
Is he the Backup for Max next year?

Will be a Fascinating trade period and off season. 
But we have a Cup to win first…

Did we give him a 1 or 2 year deal? I assumed it was 2 and he'll be backup next year again.

Edited August 22, 2023 by John Demonic

[Turner 1,506]

8 hours ago, SPC said:

I would argue his value has gone up. He came to us under a real injury cloud. He has shown he can be a very good solo ruckman. I’d say 20 - 25 is the mark. 

there's also far more demand for a number 1 ruck now than 12 months ago, Swans ruck has retired, Port cleary don't have any idea who they like/don't like any of them and the cats have missed the 8 and have just lost one of their two 33yo rucks to retirement too.

7 hours ago, Ouch! said:

Problem with Mathieson is that he thinks he's beast mode as well, probably refers to himself in the 3rd person when he talks too.  
NQR AFL standard player, West Coast needs a rebuild, not a re-tool.  Go for Devon Robertson.

If that was the case, he wouldn't have made it to FA and 8 years in the system

[IRW 1,386]

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Gees we are in a good spot. Not one player on this list who I will lose sleep over. 
Hibbo will retire and I reckon Melksham will get one year deal. 
The rest are a wait and see. My guess is JJ goes, we possibly rookie AMW, and the rest get delisted with Schache potentially getting another year if Grundy goes and we can’t find another ruck backup. 

Yeah but we have to carry BBB and TMac which is frankly ( unfortunately) a waste of 2 places..

The best scenario is 12 games between them and only 6 of them any good

 

[Bates Mate 4,462]

Hearing a few sources say we are still pretty heavily into Georgiadis.

 

[Mach5 4,767]

39 minutes ago, Turner said:

there's also far more demand for a number 1 ruck now than 12 months ago, Swans ruck has retired, Port cleary don't have any idea who they like/don't like any of them and the cats have missed the 8 and have just lost one of their two 33yo rucks to retirement too.

If that was the case, he wouldn't have made it to FA and 8 years in the system

Yeah, nah, Mathieson is certainly a tool and it’s a minor miracle he has lasted so long for a player who is solidly VFL quality.

[Hunt29 270]

Any murmurs that one of Tmac or BBB take a deal to retire early? Both seem physically pretty much done. 

[Demonstone 22,207]

2 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Did we give him a 1 or 2 year deal?

Schache was given a one year deal.  I have no idea whether we'll re-sign him or not at the end of 2023.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,791]

33 minutes ago, Hunt29 said:

Any murmurs that one of Tmac or BBB take a deal to retire early? Both seem physically pretty much done. 

Obviously haven't had the best season this year, but similar things to your comments above were stated at the end of 2020 and the next year, they were both well deserved premiership players.

Write them off at your peril I say.

Both, but particularly T Mac have earnt their right to retire or play out his contract whenever they see fit.

Edited August 22, 2023 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,791]

3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Play some hardball I reckon. Sydney’s 2nd round pick (from Hawthorn) which will end up being a 23 ish. Which I think is fair. 

I think we definitely try to secure GCS pick and then split  our pick 5 with GWS for 7 and 11.

Going into the draft with 4, 7 and 11 into the draft will be fantastic and can set us up for another 10 years. 

 

Gawn Dog, can you please explain if we're getting pick 5 and splitting for 7 and 11 (which seems like a potentially good move for us), where does pick 4 come from?