11 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

and -$650k off our salary cap

650k for an AA ruck is a steal.  don't need to add extras to it

15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Grundy to Cats 

Grundy to Power 

Grundy to Swans 

lots of options 

it was always a strange decision to recruit him, and how would they go sharing ruck and playing forward. An experiment at best   

but if he goes, who’s the backup ruck to Max.  Verrell is still developing. Needs another 12 months at least. Farris-White is still learning, too raw and skinny. 

i actually think clubs we of the belief that there would be 5 on the bench and not a sub and that screwed them a bit.

Swans is the perfect fit for him if he leaves, premiership contenders and good midfield.  if we could somehow get Ladhams in the deal id be happy.  Just as ruck back up, not paying much for him though.

3 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

i actually think clubs we of the belief that there would be 5 on the bench and not a sub and that screwed them a bit.

I think this was a genuine surprise to most clubs, especially us. The AFL seemed to be heading towards 5 on the bench and the same rotations, which would have been big for us.

Then they somehow reverted to the sub rule and made our ruck experiment less damaging.

3 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I think this was a genuine surprise to most clubs, especially us. The AFL seemed to be heading towards 5 on the bench and the same rotations, which would have been big for us.

Then they somehow reverted to the sub rule and made our ruck experiment less damaging.

Yup, all the talk was that it is happening then in true AFL form they back flipped.  Be interesting if i was to come in next year if we could convince Grundy to stay

1 hour ago, Travy14 said:

Yup, all the talk was that it is happening then in true AFL form they back flipped.  Be interesting if i was to come in next year if we could convince Grundy to stay

my mfcss tells me that they'll announce it the week after trade week, when we've shipped grundy out...

I seem to remember there were strong rumours last trade period that we were very close to getting a key forward. I have a feeling that may have been Jacob Koschitzke from the Hawks. He's out of contract this year and wouldn't cost us much at all. Thoughts? Only 23 years old, 1.98m.

12 minutes ago, OutOfTheCentre21 said:

I seem to remember there were strong rumours last trade period that we were very close to getting a key forward. I have a feeling that may have been Jacob Koschitzke from the Hawks. He's out of contract this year and wouldn't cost us much at all. Thoughts? Only 23 years old, 1.98m.

Mitch Lewis was the one went for and didnt land,

11 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Mitch Lewis was the one went for and didnt land,

Let's get Jacob anyway 😂 we need a few options I feel. 

Edited August 20, 20232 yr by OutOfTheCentre21

A someone pointed out earlier, I'm pretty happy that Grundy is not at a flag competitor this year and if he leaves at the end of the year, as seems likely, then I'd prefer for that to continue.  To Geelong rather than Sydney for example.

Pruess out of contract at GWS. He was unfortunately always injured (or suspended) and they never got to see the best of him. At 28 he's a well established ruck that could fill in for Max for 5 - 10 games a year while we wait for our young rucks to develop. 

I still need someone to explain this to me, because I'm clearly missing something. 

A lot of talk about Grundy now being an almost certainty to request a trade to another club. 

Previously, there was much discussion about our liability for his massive contract. 

Please help me with my understanding. (Not exact figures, but the gist remains): 

Brodie is contracted on $1 million per year for the next four years, with CFC paying a portion. 

On the open market, he would likely fetch something closer to $650,000 per year. 

So if he requests a trade, why would we still have to stump up? Wouldn't it void his contract?  

And if that's the case, it could cost Grundy in excess of $1.2 million in career earnings if he left, right? 

2 hours ago, Skuit said:

I still need someone to explain this to me, because I'm clearly missing something. 

A lot of talk about Grundy now being an almost certainty to request a trade to another club. 

Previously, there was much discussion about our liability for his massive contract. 

Please help me with my understanding. (Not exact figures, but the gist remains): 

Brodie is contracted on $1 million per year for the next four years, with CFC paying a portion. 

On the open market, he would likely fetch something closer to $650,000 per year. 

So if he requests a trade, why would we still have to stump up? Wouldn't it void his contract?  

And if that's the case, it could cost Grundy in excess of $1.2 million in career earnings if he left, right? 

Grundy is entitled to his contract. We agreed to pay a portion of what he was given by Collingwood. If he wants it, he can keep it. We have to honour it (so does Collingwood).

If he wants to leave, and other clubs are only interested if he takes a pay cut, that’s a decision for him. 

Whether or not we have to pay a portion or Collingwood does is AFAIK unknown. 

Natinui retires - Brodie becomes a weagle / Jack Darling a D

45 minutes ago, Diamond Tim said:

Natinui retires - Brodie becomes a weagle / Jack Darling a D

How old is darling? 

46 minutes ago, Diamond Tim said:

Natinui retires - Brodie becomes a weagle / Jack Darling a D

Grundy, pick 5 and future 1st for Allen and see if they bite. 

They won't.

3 hours ago, Nascent said:

Grundy, pick 5 and future 1st for Allen and see if they bite. 

They won't.

We have been developing Van Royen and apparently there are a couple in the 2's . Let's work on what we have or can develop. If I was VanRoyen and got shafted for Koschitzke , I would be a bit dark. We lost Bedford with our impatience and to be honest I think he has developed this year ,so much so, I think he is a better long term bet than Hunter.

3 hours ago, Cheap Seats said:

How old is darling? 

He moves like he’s 200. No thanks. 

Disco turner to replace Tomlinson next year

11 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

but if he goes, who’s the backup ruck to Max.  Verrell is still developing. Needs another 12 months at least. Farris-White is still learning, too raw and skinny. 

Just go through the VFL and pick one. No different to us trading Preuss.

Like Dunstall... they are smash glass in case of emergency. Our own Bell at Casey is an example of a 4 week fill in type ruck.

Unless the guy can mark around the ground or up forward rucks are a meh proposition in the main

6 hours ago, Cheap Seats said:

How old is darling? 

436.

SEN reporting that Bailey Smith at the dogs isn't happy with not getting midfield time.  He is out of contract at the end of next year.

If there is any truth to this we should pounce, this kid is a superstar and would be the perfect rotation for Petracca and the pace our midfield needs.

7 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

SEN reporting that Bailey Smith at the dogs isn't happy with not getting midfield time.  He is out of contract at the end of next year.

If there is any truth to this we should pounce, this kid is a superstar and would be the perfect rotation for Petracca and the pace our midfield needs.

No fear
 

Oskar Baker is a better ball user

 

9 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

SEN reporting that Bailey Smith at the dogs isn't happy with not getting midfield time.  He is out of contract at the end of next year.

If there is any truth to this we should pounce, this kid is a superstar and would be the perfect rotation for Petracca and the pace our midfield needs.

Apparently eyeing a farm out Corio way.

23 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

SEN reporting that Bailey Smith at the dogs isn't happy with not getting midfield time.  He is out of contract at the end of next year.

If there is any truth to this we should pounce, this kid is a superstar and would be the perfect rotation for Petracca and the pace our midfield needs.

Can’t use the footy. Would not get a game in our midfield either if he can’t get one at the Dogs. 
Geelong bound. 

23 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

SEN reporting that Bailey Smith at the dogs isn't happy with not getting midfield time.  He is out of contract at the end of next year.

If there is any truth to this we should pounce, this kid is a superstar and would be the perfect rotation for Petracca and the pace our midfield needs.

Oliver is a superstar

Petracca is a superstar

Gawn is a superstar 

Smith is not