Trade Rumours 2023

[Elwood 3184 1,362]

Hey … let’s not forget the clubs that are involved in this scenario. Gold Coast and Geelong.

Deal’s almost done. Cats to get GC’s first round pick along with King. GC gets Cats future third round pick as steak knives in the deal.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,251]

I heard that they’re also going to land Cadman in addition to King, and also receive both club’s first round draft picks.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Bring-Back-Powell

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

Some might forget a player who went at #2 in his draft year, potential forward with lots of time on the clock, Schache?  Anyone?  Plus JVR, Jefferson and even H Petty.  Stay calm…..

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

Another quality young player leaving an expansion club.

Onwards & upwards to 20 teams.

[dazzledavey36 55,867]

I just read somewhere that we are one of the clubs that will go hard for King when he's contract comes out as the end of 2024.

Now I need to go find this somehow..

[dazzledavey36 55,867]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I just read somewhere that we are one of the clubs that will go hard for King when he's contract comes out as the end of 2024.

Now I need to go find this somehow..

 

[Nascent 9,320]

Star Saint to wait, Hawks up the ante, Giant in no rush - https://www.afl.com.au/news/891943

 

[Pennant St Dee 13,389]

If you want a key tall for 2 years time look no further than Daniel Curtin in this years draft, this kid is special.

It”s not just his KPP attributes, the decision making and poise this kid has for a tall are something I’ve not seen in many players. I’m talking Pendlebury type poise and awareness of what is happening around him. Can play at either end with CHB probably his best position 

[Damo 3,437]

My understanding from informed Saints fans is that they want Ben King so that they can play Max as a key backman. They believe thats where he would be best suited and would star there. Max to play FF.

If we still had Yze coaching us, we would have a quirky bonus to offer, as the King twins are the only other players to come from Albania, other than Adem.

[Deeko2 864]

All this kid has to do is kick a few bags of 5 this year and he'll nearly demand a seven figure contract on a long term such is the hype around the brothers.

As much as I rate them both, I don't see how we could possibly afford a King brother with the big contracts already in place for so many of our premiership stars.

Yes, we'll lose BBB, TMac, Hibberd, Melksham and a few other fringe players in the next 24 months but in the twilight of there careers, they'd surely be on bugger all and we'll need to free up some serious coin for Kozzy who I think we just pay him whatever he wants - such is his importance.

I'd rather us take our two first rounders and bring next years forward again (someone will bite) and inject another crop of elite talent to learn from the best in the business.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

12 hours ago, Beetle said:

Then why didn’t you?

We have drafted JVR and Jefferson for his very (long term) reason and currently have two Premiership tall forwards in Tmac and Brown.

Whats the problem?

He was citing his source - relax

[deelusions from afar 1,870]

I know it doesn't work this way but if it did, I'd rather keep Kozzy than get a King.  With JVR, Schache, Jefferson etc we have Key forward options going forward - and we might draft another talented one in this year's draft.  We don't have to have the best key forward - just options that can take contested marks and be a reliable set shot.  I find it amazing that many of the best key forwards that demand the big $$ are not overly reliable set shots!

Kozzy is one out of the box that is likely to go up another level this year with time midfield and forward.

[Willmoy1947 4,198]

Those $1.00 blocks below sea level, aren't they?

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,251]

23 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I know it doesn't work this way but if it did, I'd rather keep Kozzy than get a King.  With JVR, Schache, Jefferson etc we have Key forward options going forward - and we might draft another talented one in this year's draft.  We don't have to have the best key forward - just options that can take contested marks and be a reliable set shot.  I find it amazing that many of the best key forwards that demand the big $$ are not overly reliable set shots!

Kozzy is one out of the box that is likely to go up another level this year with time midfield and forward.

Agree with this. Players with serious points of difference are worth their weight in gold.

Last week was the first week with how life could look potentially look without Kozzie and it didn't look great, given we lacked spark in the midfield and inside 50.

Kozzie only missed one game over the 2021-2022 seasons and it was the Hawks game last year where half the side had COVOD.

[titan_uranus 25,174]

13 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Even if we have a successful 2023, the reality is that both BBB and TMac have expiration dates. 

You'd expect the club to plan long term, as we have done with the midfield.

Of the many things I don't like about this thread or your post, you have no idea whether or not we have any interest in King.

You have seen an article suggesting Geelong is interested and you have inferred from it that we therefore aren't interested.

That logic is flawed. It's also silly given it's [censored] March.

[ElDiablo14 5,036]

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Of the many things I don't like about this thread or your post, you have no idea whether or not we have any interest in King.

You have seen an article suggesting Geelong is interested and you have inferred from it that we therefore aren't interested.

That logic is flawed. It's also silly given it's [censored] March.

My comment here is not specifically on King. Is more about the plan for the future structure of our talls in the fwd 50.

[layzie 34,336]

I don't need to hear us linked with marquee forwards at this stage. I need us to concentrate on winning games.

[titan_uranus 25,174]

47 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

My comment here is not specifically on King. Is more about the plan for the future structure of our talls in the fwd 50.

My point stands, perhaps even gets stronger.

You've seen an article linking Geelong to King and you've inferred from it that we're not thinking about any forward at all.

Again, that is a very silly thing to be thinking in March.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

4 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

If you want a key tall for 2 years time look no further than Daniel Curtin in this years draft, this kid is special.

It”s not just his KPP attributes, the decision making and poise this kid has for a tall are something I’ve not seen in many players. I’m talking Pendlebury type poise and awareness of what is happening around him. Can play at either end with CHB probably his best position 

Steven May Mk II

[Demons11 7,096]

Day from the Hawks is off home to SA at the end of the year 

[Lucifers Hero 40,516]

8 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Day from the Hawks is off home to SA at the end of the year 

No idea of his reasons but it made me think the Hawks may lose a few talented youngsters.  A few commentators this week openly called out Mitchell's deep list cull as 'Tanking'. 

Today's breed of youngsters aren't going to accept ruined careers like some from yesteryear, at a club that is a perennial loser for the first half of their career.  It is much easier for a player to move clubs now.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks lose quite a bit of young talent for that reason. 

[Pennant St Dee 13,389]

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Steven May Mk II

Left footer as well

[Deeko2 864]

20 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

No idea of his reasons but it made me think the Hawks may lose a few talented youngsters.  A few commentators this week openly called out Mitchell's deep list cull as 'Tanking'. 

Today's breed of youngsters aren't going to accept ruined careers like some from yesteryear, at a club that is a perennial loser for the first half of their career.  It is much easier for a player to move clubs now.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks lose quite a bit of young talent for that reason. 

It would be hard to be a talented kid from Melbourne, drafted by the Hawks and then want out to another Melbourne team within a couple years to chase success.  It's never a great look - especially in the eyes of the supporters who hold long memories.  **cough  Howe cough**

At least if you're an interstate player, you can drop the 'go home' factor in to escape if you like giving supporters a little understanding.

The one thing the Hawks will be able to offer is some serious $$ to any kids with talents.  I don't see how they can even be meeting the minimum salary cap at present with the current shambolic list of players.  They'll soon be able to front load a few for long term contracts but god knows who that would be.

 

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18 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Left footer as well

So we would still not kick out to the right!

[old dee 24,001]

15 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

It would be hard to be a talented kid from Melbourne, drafted by the Hawks and then want out to another Melbourne team within a couple years to chase success.  It's never a great look - especially in the eyes of the supporters who hold long memories.  **cough  Howe cough**

At least if you're an interstate player, you can drop the 'go home' factor in to escape if you like giving supporters a little understanding.

The one thing the Hawks will be able to offer is some serious $$ to any kids with talents.  I don't see how they can even be meeting the minimum salary cap at present with the current shambolic list of players.  They'll soon be able to front load a few for long term contracts but god knows who that would be.

 

Sounds like us a few years back when we forced to pay 95% of the cap to a VFL quality list.