Jump to content

Farewell Brodie Grundy

Ouch!
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

1 minute ago, SFebes said:

I agree with you don't worry, however all of this was Max's idea from the start don't forget.

Yes because Max wanted to be fit and healthy in September. He wouldn’t care who helped him get there. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    13 minutes ago, SFebes said:

    I agree with you don't worry, however all of this was Max's idea from the start don't forget.

    Hi Febes. I thought it was Goody's idea and he had to talk Max around to it?

  • Quote
    • Like 4
    Just now, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Hi Febes. I thought it was Goody's idea and he had to talk Max around to it?

    Pretty sure it was the other way around mate. Anyway, doesn't matter now really, we have a flag to win with this list :-) 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    28 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    That makes me feel a bit better about it all but it's still not a nice situation for him. He thought he was going to a club that genuinely wanted him, unlike his former employer. 

    We did want him, it just hasn’t worked out so far

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    3 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Hi Febes. I thought it was Goody's idea and he had to talk Max around to it?

    It was Goody idea all along.

    Goody invited Max to his house without much explanation. 

    Max rocks up to Goodys house, walks into the loungeroom and there was Brodie Grundy sitting alongside Alan Richardson and Tim Lamb there to the surprise of Gawn. That's where Goody put the idea to both Grundy and Max potentially playing together in which Gawn was sold with the idea straight away.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    • Thanks 4
    • Shocked 1

    Only half joking-Push him to a club that won't be contending with us for a season or two...Couldn't stand to see him pants us in a final.

    I really hate the media he has copped. Done nothing wrong.

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Caro says he's as good as gone. How could she possibly know this? Shes been right about a few things this year but i hope this isnt one of them. Definitely see a place for him in Sept especially if Gawn has injury issues.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    28 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    Caro says he's as good as gone. How could she possibly know this? Shes been right about a few things this year but i hope this isnt one of them. Definitely see a place for him in Sept especially if Gawn has injury issues.


    She makes educated guesses. They’re  usually well-educated, but they’re also  guesses.

  • Quote
    • Like 4
     
    1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    It was Goody idea all along.

    Goody invited Max to his house without much explanation. 

    Max rocks up to Goodys house, walks into the loungeroom and there was Brodie Grundy sitting alongside Alan Richardson and Tim Lamb there to the surprise of Gawn. That's where Goody put the idea to both Grundy and Max potentially playing together in which Gawn was sold with the idea straight away.

    I think ironically it has been Max that has been the reason why it hasn't worked. 

    Anyone who knows anything about Grundy knows he cannot play forward. I was in the "keep Wiedeman" camp so we could play him as our 2nd ruck and forward with Roo/McDonald/Brown (obviously that would have turned into Wied at VFL most likely due to him being just unable to come on).

    Anyway all that aside, the only way Grawndy would work is if Gawn were the 2nd ruck + forward. I still think that would work very well but for some reason we haven't tried it and seem to think Grundy needs to be the forward when the stretch for him to play forward is so much  greater than for Gawn to do it.

    All in all Grundy has still been a good pickup this year given we would have been stuffed during Max's injury without him, plus Gawn seems to be fit and firing now due to the decreased load.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    40 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    Caro says he's as good as gone. How could she possibly know this? Shes been right about a few things this year but i hope this isnt one of them. Definitely see a place for him in Sept especially if Gawn has injury issues.

    Still a nonzero chance of him being required to play #1 ruck in a grand final for Melbourne within the next 6 weeks. So much water to flow under the bridge.

  • Quote
    • Like 3

    21 minutes ago, Mach5 said:


    She makes educated guesses. They’re  usually well-educated, but they’re also  guesses.

    They are educated through the contacts she has with agents and footy depts.

    The guess part comes when, as @old55 would say, there is a bit of water yet to flow before October.

  • Quote
    • Like 4
    • Haha 1

    Where Brodie may go...

    And what we get....

    Two different things ;) 

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    I would like to know why the experiment failed was it Max wanting max time or isn't Grundy up to it??

    Should work out ok if we trade but what a lot of bother 

    Many on here predicted it wouldn't work by the way

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    On 8/22/2023 at 7:06 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

    It was Goody idea all along.

    Goody invited Max to his house without much explanation. 

    Max rocks up to Goodys house, walks into the loungeroom and there was Brodie Grundy sitting alongside Alan Richardson and Tim Lamb there to the surprise of Gawn. That's where Goody put the idea to both Grundy and Max potentially playing together in which Gawn was sold with the idea straight away.

    Were you a fly on the wall Daz?

    That's a play by play right there.😂

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    7 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    Were you a fly on the wall Daz?

    That's a play by play right there.😂

    So why didnt it work out??

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    20 minutes ago, Kent said:

    I would like to know why the experiment failed was it Max wanting max time or isn't Grundy up to it??

    Should work out ok if we trade but what a lot of bother 

    Many on here predicted it wouldn't work by the way

    Yep and they never stop telling everybody else.

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    What was our most important win for the year?

    Some would rightfully argue against Collingwood?

    Did we win and were they both playing?

    WTF

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    23 minutes ago, Kent said:

     

    I would like to know why the experiment failed was it Max wanting max time or isn't Grundy up to it??

     

    I’d argue it’s obvious why it didn’t work. Neither Gawn nor Grundy contributed anything substantial in the forward line. If either of them did it would have worked. 

  • Quote
    • Like 8

    I'm wondering who we think is our ruck back up should Grundy go and Max gets an injury.

    For me the cupboard would be well and truly bare - Schache isn't really up to it IMO and Verrall whilst showing potential is not ready and may not be for some time.

    If Grundy is going, I hope we are seriously looking at another ruck who can compete with the big boys.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    5 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    I'm wondering who we think is our ruck back up should Grundy go and Max gets an injury.

    For me the cupboard would be well and truly bare - Schache isn't really up to it IMO and Verrall whilst showing potential is not ready and may not be for some time.

    If Grundy is going, I hope we are seriously looking at another ruck who can compete with the big boys.

    JVR is a better ruckman than Grundy is a forward. I've been amazed by some of JVR's tapwork this year.

  • Quote
    • Like 6

    1 minute ago, Wrecker46 said:

    JVR is a better ruckman than Grundy is a forward. I've been amazed by some of JVR's tapwork this year.

    So, in the scenario I referred to you'd push JVR into the main ruck role? Not my preference 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    On 8/22/2023 at 6:59 PM, Jaded No More said:

    I’m sorry but Max Gawn is the best ruckman in the game. Has been for about 6 years now. Why should he give up the number one ruck spot? 
    Grundy hasn’t adapted to playing beyond the ruck. He’s a very poor mark for his height and his impact at ground level has been just ok. 
    I have nothing against this trade or what the club was trying to do, but Gawn being Gawn is not the problem here. He is an elite footballer and we are lucky to have him!

    I’m not convinced the club worked them the best way possible but what would I know. I’d of tried Grundy as a 50% ruck, 20% forward, 30% bench and Gawn 50% ruck, dropping behind the ball and 20% bench. I’d of had them both on the ground but always 50m apart, blocking space and being a threat forward. 

  • Quote
    • Like 7
    1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

    I’d argue it’s obvious why it didn’t work. Neither Gawn nor Grundy contributed anything substantial in the forward line. If either of them did it would have worked. 

    100% this. When either of them are forward, they end up too deep and we often just end up bombing to them and end up with at least two dees flying for the same ball (+ kozzie alot of the time) without success. Jackson was able to push up and be a linking forward. I thought Grundy would have been capable of this but hasn't so far

  • Quote
    • Like 6
     
    1 minute ago, Bates Mate said:

    100% this. When either of them are forward, they end up too deep and we often just end up bombing to them and end up with at least two dees flying for the same ball (+ kozzie alot of the time) without success. Jackson was able to push up and be a linking forward. I thought Grundy would have been capable of this but hasn't so far

    We bomb whoever is in the forward line. 

  • Quote
    • Like 6
    1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

    I’m not convinced the club worked them the best way possible but what would I know. I’d of tried Grundy as a 50% ruck, 20% forward, 30% bench and Gawn 50% ruck, dropping behind the ball and 20% bench. I’d of had them both on the ground but always 50m apart, blocking space and being a threat forward. 

    When the original pairing was touted it was a scenario such as outlined above that came to mind  .. and yet as you suggest we never saw this. Odd really.  Oh well.

  • Quote
    • Like 4

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • CASEY: Sydney

      The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 1 reply
      Demonland

    • REPORT: St. Kilda

      Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
      This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

        • Thanks
      • 4 replies
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Collingwood

      After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
      • 171 replies
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: St. Kilda

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

        • Thanks
      • 46 replies
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: St. Kilda

      After kicking the first goal of the match the Demons were always playing catch up against the Saints in Alice Spring and could never make the most of their inside 50 entries to wrestle back the lead.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 328 replies
      Demonland

    • VOTES: St. Kilda

      Max Gawn still has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award as Christian Petracca, Jake Bowey, Clayton Oliver & Kozzy Pickett round out the Top 5. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 31 replies
      Demonland
    View All