Trade and Free Agency rumours

[old55 23,320]

32 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

I shudder just thinking about Barry Prendergast.... would have to be the worst recruiter in history or at least a close second to SOS.

BBBP recruited our Premiership Captain

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

I would entertain Dow without a doubt. 

Remember that Carlton's weakness for a while was big bodied midfielders which in part pushed Dow out. (as well as the fact that he was inconsistent in his form). But I really think they didn't utilise his strengths and he's been a bit lost as a player. 

I can genuinely see a spot for him in our side as a compliment to our bull-at-a-gate midfield. He's got a burst of speed, great side-step and is composed when he feels comfortable at the level. And that's where I think we can come in. Celebrate his strengths, give him a role that really bring those strengths to our side and he'd flourish. 

He'd also come on the cheap and for a former top 3 draft pick and a new environment is exactly what he needs. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by JimmyGadson

[Demon3 2,541]

3 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

I would entertain Dow without a doubt. 

Remember that Carlton's weakness for a while was big bodied midfielders which in part pushed Dow out. (as well as the fact that he was inconsistent in his form). But I really think they didn't utilise his strengths and has been a bit lost as a player. 

I can genuinely see a spot for him in our side as a compliment to our bull-at-a-gate midfield. He's got a burst of speed, great side-step and is composed when he feels comfortable at the level. And that's where I think we can come in. Celebrate his strengths, give him a role that really bring those strengths to our side and he'd flourish. 

He'd also come on the cheap and for a former top 3 draft pick and new environment is exactly what he needs. 

Im a bit the same, think he could be a lovely wingman as he is a nice ball user.

[Rolling Stone 156]

6 minutes ago, old55 said:

BBBP recruited our Premiership Captain

And even a broken watch tells the correct time twice a day.

[monoccular 17,409]

17 minutes ago, Rolling Stone said:

And even a broken watch tells the correct time twice a day.

My digital one doesn't 🙄

[DeeSpencer 25,378]

31 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

I would entertain Dow without a doubt. 

Remember that Carlton's weakness for a while was big bodied midfielders which in part pushed Dow out. (as well as the fact that he was inconsistent in his form). But I really think they didn't utilise his strengths and he's been a bit lost as a player. 

I can genuinely see a spot for him in our side as a compliment to our bull-at-a-gate midfield. He's got a burst of speed, great side-step and is composed when he feels comfortable at the level. And that's where I think we can come in. Celebrate his strengths, give him a role that really bring those strengths to our side and he'd flourish. 

He'd also come on the cheap and for a former top 3 draft pick and a new environment is exactly what he needs. 

Would like him if he’s cheap but I think he’d still command a little cash, and I don’t think he’d want to leave Carlton only to be stuck behind our mids. 

Whilst his pace would be something different the biggest issue with his game is he’s a very ‘see ball get ball’ player without smarts. That means he struggles on the wing or forward. He gets lost and doesn’t defend.

We aren’t shifting our main mids out of the way to let Dow play an attacking on ball role. And I don’t think he’ll develop as a player unless he’s given the chance to do that.

[daisycutter 29,599]

11 minutes ago, monoccular said:

My digital one doesn't 🙄

my microwave has a 12hr digital clock with no am/pm indicator

in the other hand 24 hour analog clocks do exist 

[Simon Port 189]

Paddy Dow has a truly horrific kick. We need to inject good ball users, not poor ones.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

12 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Would like him if he’s cheap but I think he’d still command a little cash, and I don’t think he’d want to leave Carlton only to be stuck behind our mids. 

Whilst his pace would be something different the biggest issue with his game is he’s a very ‘see ball get ball’ player without smarts. That means he struggles on the wing or forward. He gets lost and doesn’t defend.

We aren’t shifting our main mids out of the way to let Dow play an attacking on ball role. And I don’t think he’ll develop as a player unless he’s given the chance to do that.

Go and look at his draft profile and his strengths and weaknesses and the reason he went as high as he did. 

He has smarts in spades, he just needs a defined role. 

If ANB can play half forward, Jordan and Brayshaw on a wing then I'm sure a previous number 3 draft pick can learn to play a position.

I'd have him in our midfield rotation as is anyway. He can compete with Sparrow and Harmes for that spot over summer. 

More competition for spots and lifts the standards of those he'd be competing with. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by JimmyGadson

[Jaded No More 68,853]

1 hour ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

I don't agree.

He'd made the AA squad of 40 in his third and final year at the Crows and they considered him a future captain.

He also played off in a flag... all be it in a losing side.

 

[DeeSpencer 25,378]

1 minute ago, JimmyGadson said:

Go and look at bise draft profile and his strengths and weaknesses. 

He has smarts in spades, he just needs a defined role. 

If ANB can play half forward, Jordan and Brayshaw on a wing then I'm sure a previous number 3 draft pick can learn to play a position. 

I'd have him in our midfield rotation as is anyway. He can compete with Sparrow and Harmes for that spot over summer. 

More competition for spots and lifts the standards of those he'd be competing with. 

A draft profile of a top 5 pick who can’t get a game doesn’t interest me. A lot of recruiters had some doubts on Dow and given his athleticism and ability to kick goals from the midfield that tells you something is missing.

Nibbler’s special with his off the ball running. JJ’s incredibly coachable and hard working, he’s quickly adapted to the positioning on the wing. Gus has flaws on the wing but a lot of strengths too. Not sure we can just list off our unfashionable players and assume others can do what they do.

Certainly would be happy to have Dow as competition for spots. I’m just not sure he’ll be a match. Last I heard he was linked to the Crows where he’d get a lot of opportunity. 

[old dee 23,696]

On 9/29/2022 at 4:16 PM, Deecisive said:

I agree grundy does improve our list with Jackson going. The main issue i have at the moment is that i am not seeing any other conversations or rumors about melbourne chasing any other players, with a league of 17 other teams of maybe 40 players each we only have one target? really. you would think that someone would be hearing and talking if we were talking or interested in other players, maybe they only have eyes for the draft. but so far not impressed, other clubs are going out there making bids, and all i see is we are losing our players to them. What are we getting back in return, daft picks in the 30-60 range?

Do you think they would be telling us at this point? The FD over the last 5-6 years have done a very good job IMO. I trust them more than any group in the last 50 years to get the best they can. 

 

[durango 2,001]

I cannot believe that clubs like Richmond, Collingwood and the Geelong are in talks with players to make their list better and we just sit back and basically swap Jackson for Grundy.

Are we a destination club or just going to be a 1 year wonder?

[whatwhat say what 22,579]

38 minutes ago, Simon Port said:

Paddy Dow has a truly horrific kick. We need to inject good ball users, not poor ones.

this

we already have enough players who can't hit targets, would prefer not to add another who has struggled to be an afl level player the entire time he's been in the system

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33 minutes ago, durango said:

I cannot believe that clubs like Richmond, Collingwood and the Geelong are in talks with players to make their list better and we just sit back and basically swap Jackson for Grundy.

Are we a destination club or just going to be a 1 year wonder?

It’s called list demographics. Geelong won the flag with 13 players over 30! They simple have to bring in talent. Richmond aren’t far behind in age.

 We are at a different stage with our list.

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[DubDee 25,439]

43 minutes ago, durango said:

I cannot believe that clubs like Richmond, Collingwood and the Geelong are in talks with players to make their list better and we just sit back and basically swap Jackson for Grundy.

Are we a destination club or just going to be a 1 year wonder?

Pies are getting rid of a promising key fwd to the Cats in Henry and an AA ruck to us while paying part of the salary

They are bringing in Frampton and McStay. 

List better? Hell no

[Lord Travis 10,678]

If Lobb isn't traded to a Vic team he will sit out for a year and claim mental health. He's already transitioned his life to Vic and requested a trade in successive years.

Will be interesting what happens with him after he sits out of the game for a year. Would Vic clubs still be keen on him at his age after a year on the sidelines?

[Deemania since 56 6,605]

3 hours ago, A F said:

I did wonder whether we were going to look to offload another contract in that $500k range, along with Tomlinson, and Hunt's contract nearer to probably $350-400k.

Giving Melksham and Hibberd one year deals on small dollars, along with a two year deal for Smith on small dollars, I reckon we're opening up cap space for a very big fish this year or next.

Nice presumption. It is all very handy - particularly if we are to play a better planned game style with fit players only to take the field. We must also overcome the 'favourites' syndrome, so the more fish we have swimming, the better we can address these matters. 

[RedFox 510]

Reports that Tarryn Thomas could be keen on a change of scenery. His skillset would compliment our midfield group perfectly

[Diamond_Jim 12,507]

So Freo wont trade Lobb, want to keep Logue yet they expect to get Jackson

What a mess

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Just now, RedFox said:

Reports that Tarryn Thomas could be keen on a change of scenery. His skillset would compliment our midfield group perfectly

Horrible, horrible time to be a North supporter.

However I’d feel much worse for them if they didn’t boo so often when we played them, and learnt the holding the ball rule.

[The heart beats true 18,088]

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

So Freo wont trade Lobb, want to keep Logue yet they expect to get Jackson

What a mess

Does any other club spend so much energy trying to appear to play hard ball through the media?

What’s the point? He wants to go. Let him go and get a good deal done that suits you. It’s weird. 

[whatwhat say what 22,579]

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

Does any other club spend so much energy trying to appear to play hard ball through the media?

What’s the point? He wants to go. Let him go and get a good deal done that suits you. It’s weird. 

smaller team in a smaller town

they're forever trying to 'big up' themselves

[Roger Mellie 3,950]

3 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Does any other club spend so much energy trying to appear to play hard ball through the media?

What’s the point? He wants to go. Let him go and get a good deal done that suits you. It’s weird. 

They strike me as a clear second behind Dodoro as being excruciating to deal with.