POSTGAME: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

[Deeman5 10]

Apologies for being simplistic but our current predicament is largely on the coaches.

[layzie 34,041]

We need better players  😛

[Gorgoroth 13,059]

Yeah… nothing wrong or broken at all…

[Fork 'em 6,998]

5 minutes ago, Trisul said:

 The last 6 odd weeks has been jam it forward and hope for the best,  So many times we have options but completely ignore them.

Nah, we've done this for years.
A couple of times I thought they may have rectified the problem.
But I was mistaken.

 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,779]

1 minute ago, Deeman5 said:

Apologies for being simplistic but our current predicament is largely on the coaches.

I tend to agree

Our fwd structure is terrible, pushing to high up and key fwds aren't in position to provide any options

And we clearly haven't trained to lead to position and naturally kick to that position  -  we just pause, wait for flood, and dump into the pocket

It doesn't work! Change it

[Boots and all 1,000]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

Mitch brown never to play again. Just leave weiderman in. 

Pretty slim pickings in our forward list once you take T Mc out. I'm not enamoured with either player and currently can't see us kicking a winning score...but [censored] the delivery into those boys was terrible today.

[Guest]

I BLAME THE CHEER SQUAD. Not NEARLY loud enough! LOLZ. 

Incidentally, I sat nestled between Pauline (Mrs Fritta) and Shazza (Mrs Nibbler) and I now have temporary hearing loss. 🤣 

[I'va Worn Smith 981]

The only other burning question, which remains,is that we have lost 3 weeks in a row, after being in front at half time.  We have then fallen away.  I would hope that if things were reversed in that regard, we would have also had a crack and fight back in the 2nd half.  But would we win?????

Hopefully, we geared up for this year, knowing that as the reigning premiers, we would be hunted in 2022.  Why have we not been able to rise to that challenge?

[praha 11,240]

Somehow, magically, we've still conceded fewer points than any other team. And will remain like that until round 15.

Our worst three weeks in a while and we are still the best defensive team in the league. Goes to show how far ahead we were in the first 10 rounds.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

20 minutes ago, layzie said:

I agree, JJ was very good. Had more than a fair crack 

Very very solid but.... he slow plays far too often for mine and often down the line when (sometimes) the better option would have been to move it quicker with a short pass inside or over the top (when options were clearly presenting..obviously you cant if there isnt) and keep moving the ball up the field before opp has time to call in the cavalry and get extras behind the ball.

Nice but also a liability in this regard on occasions. Love the effort and the rest but would like to see a bit more quick ball movement and/or play on at times.

Not doing so makes scoring on the counter that much harder

[gregdemon 624]

Half time at freo game went to get a pie and thought all is good with world. Another flag coming. Then whst the hell happened.  I will wake up soon and all bad dream !!!

[Willmoy1947 4,152]

Did anyone count the number of times interference occurred to our players and the umpires chose to ignore what was going on.

Every week it's the same.The players have to observe a different code of rules..to all other teams and this has been going on for about five to six weeks.

Petracca and Lever just aren't themselves..

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

6 minutes ago, Deeman5 said:

Apologies for being simplistic but our current predicament is largely on the coaches.

Doesn’t seem like we even have a forward coach

[The heart beats true 18,148]

3 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Yeah… nothing wrong or broken at all…

I feel like this makes a very good argument for training loads. I’m sure people will see it differently, but does that not prove we don’t have the legs during this period?

[Redlagged 813]

1 minute ago, praha said:

Somehow, magically, we've still conceded fewer points than any other team. And will remain like that until round 15.

Our worst three weeks in a while and we are still the best defensive team in the league. Goes to show how far ahead we were in the first 10 rounds.

We cant kick enough goals. They win games. Hopefully that will dawn on the coaches. Of it doesn't, we'll be lucky to make the finals.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

5 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

Pretty slim pickings in our forward list once you take T Mc out. I'm not enamoured with either player and currently can't see us kicking a winning score...but [censored] the delivery into those boys was terrible today.

Both the KTs are too easliy pushed off the ball or kept out of the marking contest with even a slight bodying from an opponent.

Without Macca we have no contested beasts in the air up forward aside from Max on occasions.  Fritta one on one gets hold of opponents at times and that's about it.

Edited June 13, 2022 by Demon Dynasty

[Gorgoroth 13,059]

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

I feel like this makes a very good argument for training loads. I’m sure people will see it differently, but does that not prove we don’t have the legs during this period?

So when we supposedly did the training laid last year what rounds were they? And did we drop off that badly? 

[SFebes 4,884]

Unsure about loading, as I have no proof its even happening. However, we did start pre-season very late after the GF. Could have a lot to do with it.

Combined with the above possibility of loading and injuries to key talls, we just have to ride it out and hope we freshen up after the bye.

It still doesn't excuse the habit of old bombing long manically into F50.

We need a lot more from Petracca, Pickett, Jackson, B Brown, ANB and Lever though, some have had very underwhelming years.

Edited June 13, 2022 by SFebes

[roy11 3,894]

1 minute ago, Redlagged said:

We cant kick enough goals. They win games. Hopefully that will dawn on the coaches. Of it doesn't, we'll be lucky to make the finals.

Averaging 57.7 points a game last 3 weeks. To think I had a Bet on BBB winning the Coleman aha

[loges 6,767]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

Mitch brown never to play again. Just leave weiderman in. 

Whats the difference.

[dazzledavey36 55,390]

It really is like watching 2019 again...

[Dr. Gonzo 24,356]

1 hour ago, praha said:

You're delusional. We are fighting to stay in touch with teams. We've been outscored by 20 goals in the second half over three weeks. That's about a three goal deficient average EVERY third and fourth quarter. That's not just a slump. The season is done. We have Brisbane next lol

Things haven't looked good the last 3 weeks (even the couple before that). But this team and coaches have earnt the benefit of the doubt, I'll wait and see how the next 2 months play out before freaking out and declaring us gone.

We lost to the Pies last year in a game that was extremely frustrating and went on to win the flag. We're still 2nd (0.2% off 1st) after 13 games and will be back on top if we beat the Lions in 9 days.

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

The game was lost on turnover, as most are. We overcooked handballs through the middle and we’re completely burnt the other way. We had no time to set any sort of defensive zone. Miochek murdered us out the back and on the lead. 

[layzie 34,041]

We keep losing the lead and never getting it back. We aren't just in a slump at the moment, we stink. If anyone from the positive police wants to stick their beaver like chompers into me for that then go for it.

[The heart beats true 18,148]

7 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

So when we supposedly did the training laid last year what rounds were they? And did we drop off that badly? 

I think during a 9 week period last year we won 4, last 4 and drew the Hawks game. Also, we had literally zero injuries during that period in game. I think that is impacting us badly on top of the training intensity - and when I say ‘think’ I mean ‘hope like hell’.