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3 hours ago, picket fence said:

Not the time for experiment but.... What about Smith for Weeds and play him Forward?? Any takers?

 

2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

You betcha, Picket. You betcha. You and I seem to be the only posters who seem to appreciate his true attributes - and according to his father, he is more than a son-of-a-gun, as well. His pace, alone, would be an meaningful attribute up there.

 

1 hour ago, Demons3031 said:

Me too-that makes three.:)

Sort of but not Weid to the back line for mine.   He's played very little 'senior' footy there to date.  Probably won't read the ball as well as T-Mac in this part of the ground either.

Now if you suggested T-Mac for Smith.... as a short term experiment for up to two weeks?  And then, only once the game / outcome is under control say from half time onwards, late in the third or some way into the final quarter?

I believe Smith started his career as a forward yes?  Apart from very little experience there of late, the other thing going against Smith up forward might be his height.  Although he seems relatively quick off the mark and a decent leap which could well make up for any deficiency here.  See his dad....Robbo etc.

I would prefer this option to both T-Mac and Weid both starting inside the 50 AND remaining there for the entire match.  Unless of course it's actually working haha!  But from what i have witnessed on game day from behind the goals, they both get in each other's way far too often and when was the last time that 'both players' worried the scorer with say three to four goals a piece in the same game?

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GWS have the ruck, Riccardi, Himmelberg and Hogan. I can see them having May, Tomlinson and Smith for those three and Lever on the resting mid or coniglio to free him up. Might be Hunt out…

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Oh, and we shouldn’t be throwing the magnets around - we should be rewarding players that have trained positions and have an understanding that the reward is an opportunity in those positions. After that fails then you can throw magnets.

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7 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Oh, and we shouldn’t be throwing the magnets around - we should be rewarding players that have trained positions and have an understanding that the reward is an opportunity in those positions. After that fails then you can throw magnets.

I agree they would also need to train for it RP ....obviously just throwing them around on game day probably aint such a great idea.

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2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

I mean, Joel Smith is on limited preparation also, not to the same extent of course; but Brown wasn't brought back in after missing a week so can't see Smith (who's not really needed given we're already in 'ok shape down back') coming straight back in, especially after a goalless half.

That's leaving aside the argument about who's a better option out of Smith and Tomlinson (although we may have been given a clue by our skipper as to Maysie's thoughts...) ;)

 

Sure.

But all the above does not go to your implication my two comments were somehow contradictory.

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3 hours ago, sisso said:

Petty plays if he's ready for mine - too good a player to be kicking around in the VFL

... and #50 has shown, that bad things can happen to "too good" players at VFL.

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Pretty obvious from Goody's presser that Petty is considered best 22. 

If they want to give Petty another game in the VFL, I doubt that Tomlinson would get dropped for Smith, and then dropping Smith for Petty the following week.

Whilst Salem and Hibberd are out, Gus will remain in the backline, which isn't a problem with the way JJ is playing on the wing.

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I think we will go in with the same team against GWS. Petty to get a run in the Casey team again.

Wied is lucky that Brown is having a week off. Would love to see him kick a few and have longer term success but My hope for him is fading. He needs to attack the ball at every opportunity.

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Trac was talking to the physios and pointing to his hammy and then knee.  didnt seem too serious but we will be a story for a while

I personally would love to see him have some time soon to get his body right.  if we are still worried at round 23, that is not ideal

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2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Trac was talking to the physios and pointing to his hammy and then knee.  didnt seem too serious but we will be a story for a while

I personally would love to see him have some time soon to get his body right.  if we are still worried at round 23, that is not ideal

It's early season, we're coasting , if there is any doubt about your gun player why not give him  a break, it's September that counts.

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I think no change. 
 

Tomlinson will play on Himmelberg and May will take Hogan. 
 

No need to rest Trac if his knee is structurally ok. He can always play more forward minutes. 

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On 4/10/2022 at 10:08 PM, Lord Travis said:

Gawn made an interesting comment about May being happy to have Lever back as he spent half his energy trying to get Smith to adjust his positioning. Sounds as though Smith perhaps struggles with gameplan or just lacks footy iq. His stats might be decent, but if he struggles to play his role as Gawn suggested then he’s out. I suspect Smith or Hunt would be the ones to be dropped, so unlucky timing to Smith to lose his spot for Covid protocols.

When I'm watching live at the footy I try to look ahead of the play to the players who are about to have the ball kicked to them instead of just following where the ball is. It is hard when you're wrapped up in the game but I try to catch myself and look ahead of the field to get an idea of the behind the ball play.

There was one play in the Essendon game, the one where Wanganeen kicked the snap from the MCC pocket, where I looked ahead and Smith got completely lost in the play. He was ball watching and standing about 10-15m in front of Wanganeen. Wanganeen doubled back while Smith was looking upfield and when the ball came down Smith was caught miles out of position and Wanganeen had plenty of space to work in and snap the goal.

I'm sure this isn't an isolated incident and reminded be of last year's QF when he got turned inside out by Cameron a couple of times. This is my worry with Smith, he doesn't know where to position himself and gets outsmarted by players with higher footy IQ. His athleticism is undeniable but if he's not getting led to the ball I feel he worries our defensive structures too much which is a huge issue considering the type of game we play.

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