8 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Wow we have 2 injured players on our list. Most teams have more. 

We have more.  Gawn,  McDonald, Turner, Smith and Howes that we know about.

Queries over Melksham, Rosman and Daw according to other posters.

Edited June 15, 20223 yr by Demonstone

So it gives viney a go at being captain. I reckon he will love that & step up leading the way. 

Do they move someone up to vice under Jack?

11 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

With the bye coming up best case scenario is two games missed by Max which will give him time to get over his other ailments where ordinarily he would have played through them. Weid back in will allow for sharing of the ruck duties with Dogga.

That's surely over-optimistic.  And 9 days is hardly a bye.   At least the rest of his body will get a rest.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Clearly it’s time for some “Majak” 

He was in good form at Casey and I think was brought in for this situation as ruck cover.  
 

Why not give him the chance? Perhaps he’ll surprise a few and be a great story. 

Has played one game in last 4 and is obviously injured. Won’t be Majak.

Unfortunately we have left ourselves very thin on ruck depth and it was always a risk.

We will have to get inventive and probably use Weid and Tomlinson to help LJ in the ruck. You never know, it will make us less predictable.

13 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

We have more.  Gawn,  McDonald, Turner, Smith and Howes that we know about.

Queries over Melksham, Rosman and Daw according to other posters.

Correct and many will not agree but J Smith would be in my best 22 

55 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

We are stuffed

No we aren’t!

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46 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Well [censored] ain’t working right now is it Einstein? You would prefer just to plod along doing the same

Max is down. We have part time Ruckmen

we need to devise a different way to play QUICKLY 

Backs to the Wall right now

We probably don't need a new game plan because our current one is almost fireproof .What we need do is re-start playing to this game plan and rid ourselves of the stop/start footy which has slowly but perceptibly crept in as the season has progressed.

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Now is the time for the Coaches to all work together and devise a new Game Plan. 
 

we either lie down or fight through this

I'd like to see us being innovative, like two off the back of the square instead of running wingmen. Maybe Oliver, Viney and Trac could  form a human triangle on one side of the centre bounce while Jackson grabs the ball out of the ruck in a somersault takes a couple of bounces to 50 and kicks it to another human triangle in the goal square.

We need to put a win on the board. I couldn't give a continental about who we,  including May and Viney, have to kill to get it on the ladder. The win will make all the difference.

As much as I love Max I think this in an opportunity. It was alluded to by someone from the Sydney camp before the game last week that they were setting their midfield up to shark Gawns taps. In effect assuming they would lose the tap and instead just clamp down on our mids, this seemed to play out at times with the limited room and space we had at stoppages. Add an extra around the ball which the oppo has done of late and it adds up the handball merry go round leading to a turnover we’ve been doing a lot of lately.

Perhaps now our mids can be the hunters rather than hunted and we can freshen up our approach to stoppages.

55 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

We will win at least 5 of the last 9 and make top 4.  The finals will be wide open from there.

In the top 4 will most likely be Freo, Lions and Cats.  Happy to play any of them anywhere.  In fact happy to play any team, anywhere.

Still think Dees and Lions in the GF!

You are way more confident than me LH.

44 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

So it gives viney a go at being captain. I reckon he will love that & step up leading the way. 

Do they move someone up to vice under Jack?

May

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Daw is a training partner for Max and our other Ruckmen. He is lucky to be alive. I would be staggered if his body could play in the Senior Side again 

And that is putting it mildly. He is a tap ruckman at VFL level and spends most of his time standing around like he is completely immobilized.

Didn't lollie blues use Silvagni as a ruckman? Just stop the oppo ruckman from delivering and marking.

Maybe height doesn't matter as much if the game plan is adjusted to revolve around mobile contesters in the ruck. Perhaps tell dogga to play small and become a proper midfielder. Weid can also play mobile. Time to change the plan.

Don’t change the plan spice it up a bit be more daring and utilise quicker ball movement. Target two of their players and see how they cope being battered every time they touch the ball. Follow JVs example, protect your teammates block shepherd hurt the opposition legally. Let’s see what happens, if they don’t step up rotate them out.!!!

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

So it gives viney a go at being captain. I reckon he will love that & step up leading the way. 

Do they move someone up to vice under Jack?

Choo Choo Train!!

Should be worrying about replacing the 5.7 marks and 19.3 disposals he gets per game, His hitouts are down quite a bit this season but him being a marking target has been huge

How about we all back of a bit on Weiderman,some big blokes smash packs some don’t 

Weve got to back him in & hope like he’ll repay the faith
Anxiety is a real thing to deal with & hope he can overcome it & play some good footy for us

1 hour ago, —coach— said:

As much as I love Max I think this in an opportunity. It was alluded to by someone from the Sydney camp before the game last week that they were setting their midfield up to shark Gawns taps. In effect assuming they would lose the tap and instead just clamp down on our mids, this seemed to play out at times with the limited room and space we had at stoppages. Add an extra around the ball which the oppo has done of late and it adds up the handball merry go round leading to a turnover we’ve been doing a lot of lately.

Perhaps now our mids can be the hunters rather than hunted and we can freshen up our approach to stoppages.

I like the idea, but maggots like giving Lots of FC'S against us, and they intentially just wait for the opportunities to pop up..

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

We have more.  Gawn,  McDonald, Turner, Smith and Howes that we know about.

Queries over Melksham, Rosman and Daw according to other posters.

Oh I just meant players I have in my best 22 

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Well [censored] ain’t working right now is it Einstein? You would prefer just to plod along doing the same

Max is down. We have part time Ruckmen

we need to devise a different way to play QUICKLY 

Backs to the Wall right now

I know you're not new to footy, so I'm sure I don't need to run you through why changing game plans halfway through a season is a bad idea, even more so purely because you have one injury that might impact for as little as 4 games.

We don't need to devise a different way to play, we need to stick to what we know and be better at it.

"Just be us". Remember that? Got us a flag last year, which you have been banging on about for ages and then forget after 3 weeks and go back to ranting.

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Current one isn’t achieving much.

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

And that is putting it mildly. He is a tap ruckman at VFL level and spends most of his time standing around like he is completely immobilized.

You obviously don't watch much VFL footy

9 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I know you're not new to footy, so I'm sure I don't need to run you through why changing game plans halfway through a season is a bad idea, even more so purely because you have one injury that might impact for as little as 4 games.

We don't need to devise a different way to play, we need to stick to what we know and be better at it.

"Just be us". Remember that? Got us a flag last year, which you have been banging on about for ages and then forget after 3 weeks and go back to ranting.

Yeh nah.

Every year is different and it's clear the top teams have studied us to a T which is why this year we have a poor record against them,

Top teams have adapted, we seemingly haven't. Now's the time. 

It's not about complete game plan changes obviously but it is about tinkering and changing things up positionally, perhaps trialling some players from the VFL through different positions. 

Just now, JimmyGadson said:

Yeh nah.

Every year is different and it's clear the top teams have studied us to a T which is why this year we have a poor record against them,

Top teams have adapted, we seemingly haven't. Now's the time. 

It's not about complete game plan changes obviously but it is about tinkering and changing things up positionally, perhaps trialling some players from the VFL through different positions. 

Yeah nah, "tinkering" might happen, sure, but you don't completely change the game plan now.

Farcical suggestion.