Welcome to Demonland: Jacob Van Rooyen

[58er 6,067]

This topic should be joined with "Welcome to Melbourne JVR" shouldn't it? 

[dazzledavey36 53,204]

Ok

[Matt 424]

🤔

[rpfc 28,070]

Ok so they made the right decision not playing him in the SF. 

Can you imagine if he had one kick?

’People said he was good, we got nothing in the cupboard, life sux, grumble grumble fart!!!’

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Supporters are already imagining him to be a player that he's not. 

His forward craft is not in the ilk of a true forward. He doesn't have the class or goal nous of Fritsch. He has an awkward kick both set shot and in general play. 

He's a competitive beast who will be a strong second or third key tall. 

But he is not going to be in the Hawkins, Franklin, Cameron, Naughton mould. 

He's going to be much more like Balta from the tiges. 

[layzie 33,276]

Yeah 

[Neil Crompton 5,324]

3 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Supporters are already imagining him to be a player that he's not. 

His forward craft is not in the ilk of a true forward. He doesn't have the class or goal nous of Fritsch. He has an awkward kick both set shot and in general play. 

He's a competitive beast who will be a strong second or third key tall. 

But he is not going to be in the Hawkins, Franklin, Cameron, Naughton mould. 

He's going to be much more like Balta from the tiges. 

Please don’t rooyen for all of us the vibe around this kid JG. Let us have 6 months of dreaming of what could be. Your point is noted however, and one of us will refer to it next season for sure. I’m of the thinking that he is Ox like, rather than Balta, and really hope I’m the one that’s right.

[Demon Jack 6,757]

 

[Ugottobekidding 1,074]

20 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Supporters are already imagining him to be a player that he's not. 

His forward craft is not in the ilk of a true forward. He doesn't have the class or goal nous of Fritsch. He has an awkward kick both set shot and in general play. 

He's a competitive beast who will be a strong second or third key tall. 

But he is not going to be in the Hawkins, Franklin, Cameron, Naughton mould. 

He's going to be much more like Balta from the tiges. 

Seems to be able to find the goals... Some people think no players are good enough for the Demons.

[durango 1,992]

He reminds me of Schwarz when he started in the reserves a young colt who needed another 2 years of development.

Hopefully he wont be like LJ and return to mum in WA.

[rjay 24,677]

58 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Supporters are already imagining him to be a player that he's not. 

His forward craft is not in the ilk of a true forward. He doesn't have the class or goal nous of Fritsch. He has an awkward kick both set shot and in general play. 

He's a competitive beast who will be a strong second or third key tall. 

But he is not going to be in the Hawkins, Franklin, Cameron, Naughton mould. 

He's going to be much more like Balta from the tiges. 

Agree with some of what you say 'Jimmy'...

...but not the Balta comparison.

I think Balta is more athlete than footballer, a little dumb at times.

I think JVR is a more natural footballer but not overly athletically gifted.

...maybe a slightly smarter & agile version of our own Tommy Mac.

He's certainly not the 2nd coming of David Schwartz as some have likened him.

[adonski 10,974]

9 minutes ago, rjay said:

Agree with some of what you say 'Jimmy'...

...but not the Balta comparison.

I think Balta is more athlete than footballer, a little dumb at times.

I think JVR is a more natural footballer but not overly athletically gifted.

...maybe a slightly smarter & agile version of our own Tommy Mac.

He's certainly not the 2nd coming of David Schwartz as some have likened him.

A better version of T Mac has been my thinking 

[DeeZone 9,075]

On 10/8/2021 at 9:47 AM, MadAsHell said:

We hold Pick 17 in the draft (likely 19 after F/S picks) so I thought it was time to start a thread on this potential recruit.

A key position player who can play at either end of the ground. Probably more known as a forward, but was named at CHB in the 2021 National U/18's team.

From Claremont in WA hopefully he could be a vital cog in the future with all of B. Brown, M. Brown, McDonald, May and Tomlinson 28 or over at the start of next year.

Cal Twomey had him at 21 in his phantom draft and said this about him.

Forward/defender
194cm/88kg
16/4/03
Claremont/Western Australia

Van Rooyen kicked the winning goal for Western Australia against South Australia in the under-19s clash last weekend having drifted forward late after spending most of the game in defence. It is that versatility which has improved the Claremont product's stocks across the year. van Rooyen played at senior level earlier this season whilst battling glandular fever but his past two months have impressed with his work ethic and capacity to play in key positions.

Thoughts?

Towering forward ready to show his wares in Academy hitout

JACOB VAN ROOYEN

Twomey's Draft Team of the Year: WA tall grabs the limelight, SA son of a gun back in

 

Great pickup MadAsHell, I think that JVR will play as our second tall and at 6’4” just need to get him up to 98-100kg and watch out he will be playing in tandem with BB, Fritta and TMac plus hopefully another tall we pickup in the Draft.

ps( he is taller than Curnow and Fogarty and is Neita/ Schwartz size)

pps( Could go back to release Petty).

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,620]

The boy can finish off his good work, terrific kicking action.

A must a AFL level next year.

Edited September 25, 2022 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[Fat Tony 5,178]

I think the player he is most like is Jacob Weitering. 

[Engorged Onion 10,155]

Poor ba$tard - he'd better perform, or he'll be more of a Demonland whipping boy than Spargo and ANB combined...

[DeeZone 9,075]

4 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Poor ba$tard - he'd better perform, or he'll be more of a Demonland whipping boy than Spargo and ANB combined...

Nah he is 19 yo we will give him a couple of seasons to hang our coat tails on.!! He has already shown that he has the potential but feel real good about this kid.!!

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

1 hour ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Seems to be able to find the goals... Some people think no players are good enough for the Demons.

Is that last line a figmant of your imagination?

I didn't say anything of the sort, so it's interesting you took the quantum leap to arrive at that statement.

Impressive really. 

[monoccular 17,345]

On 9/11/2022 at 11:16 AM, rpfc said:

Agreed, with the addendum ball movement needs to change too.

Know what you’re trying to say about Brown, TMac, Fritsch, et al. Bayley is so quick on a lead but doesn’t spend those tickets to stop defensive transition - he plays like he is our FF and that he doesn’t need to do that and when he does that; he looks lazy and we look so slow.

I am hopeful with; an actual FF (either Brown back where he competed for Colemans or McKay-like trade) who plays out of square, TMac back at CHF, JVR as a taller HFF who competes on the ground, Fritsch can be removed from the ‘the tall brigade’ that doesn’t chase and harass, that we can ameliorate a lot of what we saw in 2022.

Surely we all know that BB is not and never will be a strong pack breaking pack marking FF: great on the lead so we need to learn to do just that, kick to a lead (Harmes to leading BB Q3 2021 GF for example). 

On 9/11/2022 at 8:29 PM, Fat Tony said:

I expect Van Rooyen to play mostly in the AFL next year. But I just think it’s a tough ask for a developing tall to play key forward for a contender. The backline is much easier for young key position players. Neitz and TMac are examples of talls who started off in defence and built sufficient strength over the years to play at the other end.

Petty to the forward line would lessen the backline, but it could be only marginally if Turner or Van Rooyen or Smith improve. I just think Petty might be a much better forward than Van Rooyen next season. 

Petty couod only be a better KPF than anyone else if he is played there.  

3 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Supporters are already imagining him to be a player that he's not. 

His forward craft is not in the ilk of a true forward. He doesn't have the class or goal nous of Fritsch. He has an awkward kick both set shot and in general play. 

He's a competitive beast who will be a strong second or third key tall. 

But he is not going to be in the Hawkins, Franklin, Cameron, Naughton mould. 

He's going to be much more like Balta from the tiges. 

Maybe not quite yet, but why not later?

[Demon Dynasty 17,108]

A lovely set shot kick for goal anywhere within 40 meters.  Beautiful text book kicking action.  Doesn't kick too many high balls which will work in his favour on blustery days.

Reads the ball well, uses the big frame to hold his space and very strong overhead.

Plays pretty much a deep stay-at-home role at Casey.  Would need to work on his wheels / tank a fair degree to make the step up to AFL and also go with his opponents when they're on the rebound / quick transistions.

Would love to see him work on his left side a fair bit.

Reminds me just a little of a less agile stay-at-home Jack Reiwoldt without a left side.

Edited September 25, 2022 by Demon Dynasty

[Engorged Onion 10,155]

3 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

He has an awkward kick both set shot and in general play. 

 

22 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

A lovely set shot kick for goal anywhere within 40 meters.  Beautiful text book kicking action.

Ermmm, are we talking about the same player?

[Ugottobekidding 1,074]

17 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

 

Ermmm, are we talking about the same player?

As long as they go through the middle

[Ugottobekidding 1,074]

He goes in hard and tackles well. Would add to our defensive forward efforts.

[MadAsHell 4,209]

3 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Great pickup MadAsHell, I think that JVR will play as our second tall and at 6’4” just need to get him up to 98-100kg and watch out he will be playing in tandem with BB, Fritta and TMac plus hopefully another tall we pickup in the Draft.

ps( he is taller than Curnow and Fogarty and is Neita/ Schwartz size)

pps( Could go back to release Petty).

I love the way he launches at the ball and isn't afraid to split a pack. Could be very good for us for some time.

[DeeZone 9,075]

We need to lock him in ASAP.