Farewell Luke Jackson

[adonski 11,757]

9 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Freo don't have any 2nd or 3rd round picks this year. Yet.

Yep, they'll have a fair few after they clear deck 

[Redleg 40,808]

52 minutes ago, Billy said:

As if they would meet Grundy the week when Melb v Coll play the biggest game of the season against each other

Don't believe everything you hear 

Who said it was this week?

[Colm 2,066]

3 hours ago, adonski said:

We need to ensure we get enough 2nd/3rd round picks from Freo to grab the points require to satisfy Brisbane for their 1st rounder

 

 

 

Why not just tell Freo we want 3 first round picks and let them do the running around trying to get Brisbanes 1st rounder?

[adonski 11,757]

2 minutes ago, Colm said:

Why not just tell Freo we want 3 first round picks and let them do the running around trying to get Brisbanes 1st rounder?

Peter Bell would offer them a future 4th for it 

[layzie 33,732]

Looking forward to seeing Peter Bell strut his stuff this trade period. 

[praha 11,227]

7 hours ago, Alex Flood said:

Now that Gus has signed, does anyone know the most money we can give Jackson ?

1 kajillion dollarydoos.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

51 minutes ago, Colm said:

Why not just tell Freo we want 3 first round picks and let them do the running around trying to get Brisbanes 1st rounder?

So i did all of that number crunching for nothin!

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

4 hours ago, DemonWA said:

I think Max's comments were brilliant but are as much about putting an arm around Luke and showing that he supports him either way, as they are about trying to sway his decision. Great leadership,  but I don't know whether it changes my view on the situation all that much. Last time the media were so sure about a player leaving us Tom Scully had just held a press conference telling us he wanted to be a one club player. 

Can you remember the timeline on that? It was essentially a week or so before he then said he was off to GWS.

Or is my prejudice against him distorting the underlying facts here? I suspect it may be - but I don’t reckon there was a lot of runway between his b.s. statements and then hitting the GWS ejector seat.

That said, Jackson strikes me as a wholly different character to Scully - for a start, he seems very good natured and he’s definitely not a robotic sociopath.

Hope Maxy’s right here. I reckon Jackson has a big future, particularly with us.

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Ron Burgundy

[Flaps Jackson 29]

Would love to see him sign on the week before the finals . That vote of confidence in the club would springboard the team in to the finals and give the rest of the AFL the big [censored] you

[TheWiz 765]

6 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Can you remember the timeline on that? It was essentially a week or so before he then said he was off to GWS.

Or is my prejudice against him distorting the underlying facts here? I suspect it may be - but I don’t reckon there was a lot of runway between his b.s. statements and then hitting the GWS ejector seat.

That said, Jackson strikes me as a wholly different character to Scully - for a start, he seems very good natured and he’s definitely not a robotic sociopath.

Hope Maxy’s right here. I reckon Jackson has a big future, particularly with us.

 

My understanding was GWS lobbed a substantial increase plus his old man a job in the final couple of days.

[layzie 33,732]

2 hours ago, Flaps Jackson said:

Would love to see him sign on the week before the finals . That vote of confidence in the club would springboard the team in to the finals and give the rest of the AFL the big [censored] you

Would almost be the biggest F U since Trump won the US presidency. 

[george_on_the_outer 7,557]

We had all best hope North keep losing, if LJ wants to go back to WA.

Freo don't have the picks, and probably won't provide players of any value to trade.  

Eagles offer a bucketload to LJ to come to them,  and can pick him up in the pre-season draft, if they finish last.

He gets what he wants. They get what they want. We get nothing. 

 

[mo64 5,853]

13 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

We had all best hope North keep losing, if LJ wants to go back to WA.

Freo don't have the picks, and probably won't provide players of any value to trade.  

Eagles offer a bucketload to LJ to come to them,  and can pick him up in the pre-season draft, if they finish last.

He gets what he wants. They get what they want. We get nothing. 

 

Freo have 2 1st round picks (this year and next). We're not going to reject them because it's not optimum trade value.

Jackson will nominate a club, and a deal will get done. 

Clubs and player managers are loathe to pull the PSD card.

[layzie 33,732]

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Freo have 2 1st round picks (this year and next). We're not going to reject them because it's not optimum trade value.

Jackson will nominate a club, and a deal will get done. 

Clubs and player managers are loathe to pull the PSD card.

For sure. It would still be nice for North to finish last though for that bit of safety blanket and take away some of that leverage for managers and clubs at the negotiating table. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,129]

55 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

We had all best hope North keep losing, if LJ wants to go back to WA.

Freo don't have the picks, and probably won't provide players of any value to trade.  

Eagles offer a bucketload to LJ to come to them,  and can pick him up in the pre-season draft, if they finish last.

He gets what he wants. They get what they want. We get nothing. 

 

Even if North finishes last WCE would still pick him up in the PSD. North aren't going to meet his price and force him to play somewhere he doesn't want to be. Especially when they are trying to build a culture there. Hell even WCE may not meet his contract demands if he makes it clear he only wants to play at Freo.

[1964_2 2,357]

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Would almost be the biggest F U since Trump won the US presidency. 

And dogga holds a press conference on the eve of the first final.      
 

“I just want to make the Demons great again!”

 

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by 1964_2

[chook fowler 19,444]

1 minute ago, 1964_2 said:

And dogga holds a press conference on the eve of the first final.      
 

“I just want to make the Demons great again!”

 

 

Fake news.

[Macca 16,902]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Even if North finishes last WCE would still pick him up in the PSD. North aren't going to meet his price and force him to play somewhere he doesn't want to be. Especially when they are trying to build a culture there. Hell even WCE may not meet his contract demands if he makes it clear he only wants to play at Freo.

Agreed, Gonzo.  The big offer (if it is a big offer) is possibly only coming from one club

Especially as there is a large slice of speculation involved with a player like LJ.  He is not a proven star, he's not even proven at B+ level

But if course, he may well be heading for star-status

The pre-season draft as a choice happens very rarely and usually involves a player who definitely wants out (an element of disgruntlement)

My opinion (for what it's worth) is that he either ends up at Freo and they satisfy our demands in a trade (big ask) or he stays with us and signs at least a 2 year deal

[old dee 23,744]

14 minutes ago, Macca said:

Agreed, Gonzo.  The big offer (if it is a big offer) is possibly only coming from one club

Especially as there is a large slice of speculation involved with a player like LJ.  He is not a proven star, he's not even proven at B+ level

But if course, he may well be heading for star-status

The pre-season draft as a choice happens very rarely and usually involves a player who definitely wants out (an element of disgruntlement)

My opinion (for what it's worth) is that he either ends up at Freo and they satisfy our demands in a trade (big ask) or he stays with us and signs at least a 2 year deal

I think you have it there Macca. I think he will go and that's ok with me but the min. is 2 first round picks. 

[drdrake 3,157]

The best thing to happen for us to have a chance to resign him was him being in Perth last week.

He had his first experience what it would be like to play for a club in a 2 club town.  The fish bowl where every thing you do someone is watching.  The media are all over you, walking down the street isn't an easy task, going to dinner you are guaranteed some one will want to disturb you for an autograph photo or chat.

No doubt he gets that a little bit in Melbourne but times it by 1000 in WA.

[Demonland 71,236]

2 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

We had all best hope North keep losing, if LJ wants to go back to WA.

Freo don't have the picks, and probably won't provide players of any value to trade.  

Eagles offer a bucketload to LJ to come to them,  and can pick him up in the pre-season draft, if they finish last.

He gets what he wants. They get what they want. We get nothing. 

 

I don't think we need to worry as I reckon Eagles will destroy the Crows in Kennedy's final match.

[deelusions from afar 1,776]

I'm hoping Dogga stays as he is likely to be a very special player.  He's showing all the signs - particularly given his age - but he's not there yet. He could be anything - the next Schwarz pre knee, Kouta, Goodes or something unlike anyone else that has played - or he may end up as a talented tall utility that can play anywhere but never masters a position.

It makes me think if I were a Freo supporter and we were giving up this year and next year's first round picks and Meek (as an example) and potentially losing some other players who think Jackson will take their spot or eat up too much of their salary cap... is this deal worth it?  Isn't this selling the farm?  Are they really just Jackson away from a premiership or do they need a few more young talented players coming through?  

I'm not doubting his value particularly when you see what the biggest trades have netted in recent years... but I feel like if it goes ahead, it could blow up in Freo and Luke's face.   There will be a lot of pressure on the kid to perform if this is what they have to give up.

[Macca 16,902]

7 minutes ago, old dee said:

I think you have it there Macca. I think he will go and that's ok with me but the min. is 2 first round picks. 

See, I don't believe he's necessarily gone

2 first round picks isn't enough especially if the club knows that the pre-season draft isn't at play.  Are North or the Eagles going to pay him a lot more than what we would pay him (ball park $650k - $750k a year)

Does LJ even want to end up at either of those clubs?

Given that scenario we could play hard ball knowing that if Freo doesn't fulfill our needs, we'll get to keep LJ

I'd want picks 5, 10 & 18 knowing that there's a good chance that pick 5 or pick 10 could be a complete bust

Nothing is guaranteed with draft picks and that includes LJ becoming a top player ... that may or may not happen

Of course, if there is real, proven talent coming back our way (somehow) that changes the equation

[tilly18 287]

There is no way he will go to the PSD.

He will not want that as part of his legacy and this will not get acrimonious.

I can see us with 3 first rounders over the next 2 years and I’d be surprised if we did not have void fillers in mind or even spoken to that these picks will be used on.

Edited August 2, 2022 by tilly18

[Clintosaurus 7,826]

There is a post on BF Draft/Trades board from one of our supporters saying Dogga has re-signed.