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I have a hunch he will kick on as a player.  

Unfortunate to lose him but we can't keep them all.

 

You'd think he'd get as much game time there as with us, given their list of small forwards.

I wouldn't mind him staying but not too stressed if he goes either.

 

I know he’s small and not overtly physical but I liked the look of some of his VFL games in the midfield. 

He lacks the speed to be all that dangerous deep forward so can only compete with the high half forward types, but a full preseason and more VFL footy in the guts could really up his midfield ability. More touches, more contests also improve his belief if he gets called up to the senior side as a forward. Similar to ANB’s progress.

Clearly we’re light on for midfield depth where as the Crows lack top end talent but are very deep with recently drafted mids. I’d be selling him on being the number 1 depth mid (or number 2 behind Dunstan). He wouldn’t be best 22 at Adelaide and they’d have more invested in early draft picks too. 

Like others, I hope he stays but really can't begrudge him wanting more opportunity.


I don't know what's happened to Demonlanders.

Has a premiership made us soft or something?

Surely the first response to this thread should be that we want Adelaide's first pick in the draft or no deal!

  On 05/10/2021 at 22:03, 2021 Premiers said:

I do as well but he might be after more game time, he would walk into Adelaide's team, i assume he would get a better, longer deal at the Crows as well.

He will add some sting to the Crows, whereas with the MFC, he will most probably remain a back-bencher with limited opportunities to play AFL given the (almost) surplus of budding young-uns warming benches or stuck with Casey games (not that anything is wrong with the latter) in the foreseeable future. 

  On 06/10/2021 at 04:05, SidVicious said:

I don't know what's happened to Demonlanders.

Has a premiership made us soft or something?

Surely the first response to this thread should be that we want Adelaide's first pick in the draft or no deal!

Yeah Adelaide, your first rounder or we send him into the pre season draft!

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  On 06/10/2021 at 05:22, NeveroddoreveN said:

Wondering what Chandler would be worth....pick 30ish?

 

Pick 31 but as he is an uncontracted rookie I think he is free to leave.....


  On 06/10/2021 at 05:22, NeveroddoreveN said:

Wondering what Chandler would be worth....pick 30ish?

 

Unless they're a top pick who's had injuries or a promising tall almost anyone uncontracted and outside a clubs best 22 has little to no value these days. For instance Lipinski's 23, played 50 games and is fairly solid, would play  each week at a lot of clubs, the Dogs want to give a 3 year deal to say, but the Pies aren't offering more than pick 50 so far. 

  On 06/10/2021 at 05:38, DeeSpencer said:

Unless they're a top pick who's had injuries or a promising tall almost anyone uncontracted and outside a clubs best 22 has little to no value these days. For instance Lipinski's 23, played 50 games and is fairly solid, would play  each week at a lot of clubs, the Dogs want to give a 3 year deal to say, but the Pies aren't offering more than pick 50 so far. 

 

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I think the sentiment all around is that he is a quality young bloke and had the potential to be a handy small forward. But with limited prior and future opportunities at the Dees, he is fine to be looking elsewhere.  We wish him the best if he goes home to Adelaide.  

I’m a big fan and would hate to lose him. Does some incredibly clean, eye catching stuff at Casey. 
 

Remember when we had no small forwards? Now a production line. 

  On 06/10/2021 at 05:22, NeveroddoreveN said:

Wondering what Chandler would be worth....pick 30ish?

 

I'm a fan and don't want to see him go but the club has been happy to let players go if they're going for opportunity think Hannan and Preuss last year. There was a noticeable push a few years back to be reasonable on all deals even if that meant not haggling the perfect outcome for us, respect for the player's wishes always seems to come first.

A rookie with <5 games. If he wants to go I wouldn't expect any more than a pick in the 60s or 70s.


  On 06/10/2021 at 05:53, ArtificialWisdom said:

There was a noticeable push a few years back to be reasonable on all deals even if that meant not haggling the perfect outcome for us, respect for the player's wishes always seems to come first.

It also means that other clubs/players respect us and trust us to do a fair deal and are more willing to trade with us knowing that we are not "difficult" to work with.

Loved the pre-season game against the Tigers this year where he kicked three but did not like his only AFL game. Think it was against Carlton. Seems a great kid but if he gets more security from Adelaide then he'd be mad not to take it.

if i'm him it's a no brainer to make the move, a senior contract, longer than 1 year garaunteed and you're 21 growing with a young group in a position they're lacking quality in. if he wanted to make a career out of this afl thing he has to go.

it's no real loss for us either he wasn't really a natural goalkicker, never kicked bags in the 2s and never kicked a goal at afl level either, also wasn't really capable of high possession games at casey playing through the middle or has the high half forward the same way ANB was when he was younger, him moving is a good chance for us to continue to refresh the fringes of our list and let JT find some late gems (or maybe come january we can convince jarrod cameron or irving mosquito to un-retire)

He's got to stay. Who else will give the news on Gus and Gawny?

You'd imagine we're only going to keep one of Chandler and Bedford.

What interests me is that Chandler was repeatedly an emergency this year but Bedford wasn't. You'd think that means we rate Chandler higher than Bedford?


I'm happy with this as well, though it means there was be some list decisions to come.

At the end of this season we has a list of 45 (36 senior, 8 Cat A rookies and 1 Cat B rookie) that needed to be reduced to 42 (36 senior and 6 Cat A rookies).

We've delisted 4 senior players, 1 Cat A rookie and the Cat B rookie. Opens up 4 senior list spots, but we were still 1 over the Cat A rookie allowance.

With Jordon's promotion earlier in the year, plus this likely one for Chandler (if it's 2 years we have to promote him), then Dunstan's signing, it leaves us with 1 senior spot available and 1 Cat A rookie spot.

So with the three picks we recently received in the trade, my guess is we'll be clearing at least two more spots.

Hore, Bedford, Baker, Hibberd. Only two of these guys can survive the way I see things. 

 
  On 07/10/2021 at 00:08, MadAsHell said:

I'm happy with this as well, though it means there was be some list decisions to come.

At the end of this season we has a list of 45 (36 senior, 8 Cat A rookies and 1 Cat B rookie) that needed to be reduced to 42 (36 senior and 6 Cat A rookies).

We've delisted 4 senior players, 1 Cat A rookie and the Cat B rookie. Opens up 4 senior list spots, but we were still 1 over the Cat A rookie allowance.

With Jordon's promotion earlier in the year, plus this likely one for Chandler (if it's 2 years we have to promote him), then Dunstan's signing, it leaves us with 1 senior spot available and 1 Cat A rookie spot.

So with the three picks we recently received in the trade, my guess is we'll be clearing at least two more spots.

Hore, Bedford, Baker, Hibberd. Only two of these guys can survive the way I see things. 

Kind of. We were under by 2 players on our senior list last year as we had 6 Cat A rookies. So we had 2 spare spots on our senior list coming into this year anyway. 

  On 07/10/2021 at 01:46, Dee-licious said:

Kind of. We were under by 2 players on our senior list last year as we had 6 Cat A rookies. So we had 2 spare spots on our senior list coming into this year anyway. 

Not really, we had 6 rookie listed players. The rules were 36 senior and 6 Category A rookies or 38 Senior and 4 Category A rookies. We went with the 36 & 6 option. So we didn't have any vacancies on either of those lists is the point.

https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/837502/afl-confirms-2021-list-sizes#:~:text=It will see clubs permitted,have two Category B rookies.

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