Tommy Sparrow

[Abyssal 470]

Sparrow. more drive than Jordon

Sparrow more upside than Jordon

Jordon better Role player than Sparrow

ATM, Sparrow better option than Jordon, just.

[adonski 13,202]

7 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

Sparrow. more drive than Jordon

Sparrow more upside than Jordon

Jordon better Role player than Sparrow

ATM, Sparrow better option than Jordon, just.

I'm not sure in what world Sparrow's a better option than Jordon at the moment.

Jordon is heaps cleaner by hand and seems to make more decisive decisions from what I've seen over the course over the year.

I probably do agree with the upside bit, Sparrow has a bit of explosiveness we haven't seen much of yet. 

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59 minutes ago, adonski said:

I'm not sure in what world Sparrow's a better option than Jordon at the moment.

Jordon is heaps cleaner by hand and seems to make more decisive decisions from what I've seen over the course over the year.

I probably do agree with the upside bit, Sparrow has a bit of explosiveness we haven't seen much of yet. 

Just my opinion but I don’t think Jordon is any cleaner than Sparrow, also Jordon doesn’t seem to be able to move the ball on from a mark/free all that quickly.

I haven’t check the stats but I would say Jordon has had far more opportunity than Sparrow , who has been Sub numerous times this year.

[DeeSpencer 26,650]

4 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

Just my opinion but I don’t think Jordon is any cleaner than Sparrow, also Jordon doesn’t seem to be able to move the ball on from a mark/free all that quickly.

I haven’t check the stats but I would say Jordon has had far more opportunity than Sparrow , who has been Sub numerous times this year.

JJ's been far cleaner by hand, his quick hands have been the best part of his game. I agree that he's slow to use the ball from kick/mark situations, but that's only a few times a game.

But the biggest difference between them is JJ has now proven himself to be useful enough of a wing but I don't think Sparrow has. 

Unless the coaches want to rotate Harmes through the wing I think JJ remains the more likely option to stay in the side.

[Adam The God 30,688]

2 hours ago, Abyssal said:

Sparrow. more drive than Jordon

Sparrow more upside than Jordon

Jordon better Role player than Sparrow

ATM, Sparrow better option than Jordon, just.

To the bye mark for the season, JJ was 6th in the comp for tackles. He's demonstrated he's an excellent decision maker and beautifully clean below his feet and by hand generally. Strange take, but each to their own.

One has played pretty much all year in the top side in the comp and been a vital part of the engine room, and another has been on the fringes of the side. There's no doubt JJ seems to have tired though and his influence on games in the second half of the season has been minimal. But Tom has struggled this year in the 1s. Doesn't mean he won't make it, but he's significantly behind JJ for mine.

Edited August 15, 2021 by A F

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Tom turns the ball over way more than JJ

[demon3165 2,862]

13 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Hard to know what job Sparrow has. But he was poor again today. Three free kicks against won't endear him to the selectors.

Has some pace, doesn't mind mixing it and has decent skills. Maybe just needs confidence?

Will make way for Viney next week.

Unfortunately that will be the case.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Can't say Tom had a better game than JJ yesterday. Butchered the ball too much. 

I prefer Jordan at this stage. More reliable role player who does the basics really well. 

[Webber 10,650]

13 hours ago, deanox said:

I like Sparrow, seems like an honest battler with no major weaknesses, developing nicely.

But I have no idea what his strengths are. He doesn't seem to have stand out attributes, rather be a generally good foot solider. 

Maybe that's what he'll be: a reliable contributor over the journey who never truly owns his position, but does enough to hold his spot on the list as he makes his way to 150 games?

I think he’s an inside mid….bullish, and with a good first 5 metre ‘charge’. Good hands, big kick but pretty squiffy yesterday, just needs more games and confidence that comes with it. As you say, deanox, will never be the primary selection, but will toil and become reliable, I’ve no doubt. 

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9 hours ago, Abyssal said:

Sparrow. more drive than Jordon

Sparrow more upside than Jordon

Jordon better Role player than Sparrow

ATM, Sparrow better option than Jordon, just.

Disagree.

Just have a look at that kick from Sparrow late in the game straight to a Crow. That is a problem. Also an inability to break free from contests.

I am not knocking Tom as he will improve but JJ is ahead of him easily ATM.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,477]

If you had to choose between the two for finals, you'd be choosing Jordon due his body of work throughout the entire season.

However, he has not been good for a month and his spot would be under some sort of question when Viney returns.

[dazzledavey36 56,196]

I dont mind Sparrow. Cracks in and gives it a red hot go. Had 7 tackles yesterday. But his disposal was poor, and we cannot afford to have these little basic errors in finals.

He'll go out for Viney where as Jordon will stay.

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,631]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I dont mind Sparrow. Cracks in and gives it a red hot go. Had 7 tackles yesterday. But his disposal was poor, and we cannot afford to have these little basic errors in finals.

He'll go out for Viney where as Jordon will stay.

Agree, Viney will return this week, which means one has to go - and it's got to be Sparrow. Sparrow has shown some talent, but Jordon stays due to cohesion of the team, his body of work over the year and he's safer with the ball.

[chook fowler 19,757]

Sparrow and Vanders have a lot in common - hard at it but caught with ball too often and turns it over. Sparrow is a better kick when in the clear but most of his disposals are under pressure.

Edited August 15, 2021 by chook fowler

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15 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Sparrow is strong in the contest and his handballs and kicking is strong.  Just needs to fix up his skill by foot and some decisions.  Was tracking ok and then got 4-5 weeks as sub with no matches at Casey.  Has taken time to readjust. 
Sparrow or Jordon probably make way for Viney next week.  

This is why I think Bowey has made such an impression.  He has lots of qualities that Sparrow has, who I think is a great tackler, but Bowey is a excellent disposer of the ball and that quality stands out against many others in the team.

[Kent 2,920]

20 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Agree, Viney will return this week, which means one has to go - and it's got to be Sparrow. Sparrow has shown some talent, but Jordon stays due to cohesion of the team, his body of work over the year and he's safer with the ball.

as long as they dont play Viney on the ball I am ok with this

[dazzledavey36 56,196]

29 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Sparrow and Vanders have a lot in common - hard at it but caught with ball too often and turns it over. Sparrow is a better kick when in the clear but most of his disposals are under pressure.

Sparrow reminds me a lot of Brent Moloney.

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8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sparrow reminds me a lot of Brent Moloney.

I think that they share similar attributes, hardness, have pace and can kick long. Beamer would be a good role model for Tom. I think that JJ has more sublime skills and his distribution by hand when in the middle is always to our advantage. Great pair of tough kids that can and do play a role in a top side and I hope they both make it for us.

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28 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

I think that they share similar attributes, hardness, have pace and can kick long. Beamer would be a good role model for Tom. I think that JJ has more sublime skills and his distribution by hand when in the middle is always to our advantage. Great pair of tough kids that can and do play a role in a top side and I hope they both make it for us.

No he wouldn't.

[dazzledavey36 56,196]

28 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

I think that they share similar attributes, hardness, have pace and can kick long. Beamer would be a good role model for Tom. I think that JJ has more sublime skills and his distribution by hand when in the middle is always to our advantage. Great pair of tough kids that can and do play a role in a top side and I hope they both make it for us.

No he wouldn't.

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9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No he wouldn't.

So ordinary, you had to say it twice!

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10 hours ago, Redleg said:

Disagree.

Just have a look at that kick from Sparrow late in the game straight to a Crow. That is a problem. Also an inability to break free from contests.

I am not knocking Tom as he will improve but JJ is ahead of him easily ATM.

He wasn't alone in kicking the ball straight to a Crow's player.

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10 hours ago, Kent said:

as long as they dont play Viney on the ball I am ok with this

Play him on the ball, All over DUCKWOOD

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9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sparrow reminds me a lot of Brent Moloney.

Sparrow reminds me of a young Todd Viney. In looks and kicking. 

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22 hours ago, Abyssal said:

Sparrow. more drive than Jordon

Sparrow more upside than Jordon

Jordon better Role player than Sparrow

ATM, Sparrow better option than Jordon, just.

You spelled Abysmal wrong.

Zing.