Clarko leaves Hawks

[DeeZone 9,871]

Yes but Clarko had to go through the motions and rattle the bucket to get his full payout that he rightfully deserves. He outplayed them right to the end.
Good luck Alistair Clarkson what a champion coach.!!!!!!!!

[John Demonic 5,809]

17 minutes ago, Damo said:

Kennett and Mitchell faking sincerity.

I found his SEN interview with Whately hilariously raw and unprofessional. Not the kind of answers you give as the head of an organisation. It was soap opera play ground sounding stuff. Very Insincere in hindsight.

Easy to forget this guy is only 38. insanely young age to be a coach of a professional sporting organisation. Its going to come back to bite them hard.

Edited July 30, 2021 by John Demonic

[deegirl 1,578]

28 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

As a Melbourne supporter, I can say from experience that how this has gone down has a 'Norm Smith Curse' vibe about it.

He definitely deserved better treatment than what he has gotten from that jumped up Scotch College bully.
Like the NSC, it's not just the sacking in isolation (let's be real, that's what happened here). It's been a series of events dating back to 2006 where Kennett has been looking for ANY excuse to undermine Clarko or get him sacked. There will be a LOT of bad blood coming out of this.
I just hope that we get a Tony Charlton Football Show style interview. Like that show did with us, it will rip the scab off and lay bare the disloyalty that was shown to Clarko for nigh on 10 or so years by a bloke who was so 'devoted' to that club that he actually considered presidenting another one (thank God, we dodged that bullet).
 
We are technically the antithesis of everything he stood for. It just makes sense. ??

I'm 100% petty enough to hope this happens to HFC.  Never forgiven them (or Simon Eishold) for 1987.

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

impossible to see him going to the filth due to the fallout with wright, but can definitely see clarko at carltank or gc17 in 2022

good luck to jeff trying to spin this one - full payout for remainder of 2021 and all of 2022

[Sir Why You Little 37,049]

I didn’t expect the Plan to go ahead into next year, but I thought Whorethorn would at least wait till October to say goodbye 

What a way to treat a 4 Time Coach hey, We should know. 
May Whorethorn implode from pure arrogance 

So Mitchell’s interview with Whately a couple of weeks ago on SEN was a complete and utter lie, all of it!!

[DeeZone 9,871]

5 minutes ago, DubDee said:

we drew with the hawks when they were right in the middle of this shambles with all the distractions.  perfect timing to smash them and we still choked.

Or they were showing full respect for their champion coach.!!!!

[layzie 33,857]

Say what you want about Caro, she gets good mail.

[dazzledavey36 54,985]

11 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

It's why I don't just knee jerk reject what David King says when he criticizes us. He was right on Neeld and right on what would happen to us in the 2018 prelim. 
While we might not like the messenger, we should take them seriously if they have a track record of getting things right.

I have a great deal of respect for Caro and have been for many years regardless of what people think of her.

There is a reason why she has good well connected sources within clubs. 

Edited July 30, 2021 by dazzledavey36

[Wizard of Koz 1,102]

Norm Smith curse now over. Hawthorn have taken the torch off us by burning and sacking the best coach of an era

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,851]

8 minutes ago, DubDee said:

we drew with the hawks when they were right in the middle of this shambles with all the distractions.  perfect timing to smash them and we still choked.

If we don't get to where we want to this year, we can directly blame that night against the Hawks. They were ripe for a thrashing. They had 10 of their best 22 out, put in a listless performance the week before Vs Freo and of course had this coaching turmoil to deal with. 

We drew against an $8.50 side.

[Redleg 40,948]

48 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Carlton...

 

Looks that way and he has picked up full pay from Hawks for next year plus probably a $1.5m gig with the blues. Guessing he can buy another property off the back of somewhere north of say $2.5m for 2022.

[rpfc 28,526]

I think he should take a year off…

[Guest]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

I have a great deal of respect for Caro regardless of what people think of her.

There is a reason why she has good well connected sources within clubs. 

I definitely do as well.
I think too many people got too triggered by her during the tankquiry (even though she was pretty much on the money as to what was going to happen). 
She was right about Carlton's implosion in 2002. She was right about Hird and Essendon in 2013. She was right about us during the tanking saga. Eventually someone's track record should stack up, shouldn't it?

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Now do the right thing for your coach and beat the Lions. 

[BDA 22,755]

I hope he takes a year off. That way if things don;t work out with Goody then we are an option for him (not a Goody bash, he has done well this year but he'll be 6 years in the job at the end of next year.  I hope Goody does lead us to the promised land but some hard decisions may have to be made if no flag this year or next)

[Older demon 2,741]

56 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

As a Melbourne supporter, I can say from experience that how this has gone down has a 'Norm Smith Curse' vibe about it.

He definitely deserved better treatment than what he has gotten from that jumped up Scotch College bully.
Like the NSC, it's not just the sacking in isolation (let's be real, that's what happened here). It's been a series of events dating back to 2006 where Kennett has been looking for ANY excuse to undermine Clarko or get him sacked. There will be a LOT of bad blood coming out of this.
I just hope that we get a Tony Charlton Football Show style interview. Like that show did with us, it will rip the scab off and lay bare the disloyalty that was shown to Clarko for nigh on 10 or so years by a bloke who was so 'devoted' to that club that he actually considered presidenting another one (thank God, we dodged that bullet).
 
We are technically the antithesis of everything he stood for. It just makes sense. ??

For those who have read the book "Red Fox" and the chapter on the sacking of Norm Smith, this is history repeating itself. Let me explain! I was so angry reading the story and how Smith was undermined by those around him. In the preceding chapters I discovered MFC were the family club, post training sausage sizzles, players loved the joint and I was trying to work out how this all changed and hawthorn somehow picked up the mantle of the family club. It was this lack of foresight, fall off in recruiting and aftermath of sacking and reinstalling an iconic coach that has left us in the void for the last 57 years.

Ironically the club that took on the mantle of family club has just followed the MFC route and sacked their legendary coach. This has Kennet all over it and maybe it is the Hawks who can now lift the Curse of Norm Smith and replace it with the Clarkson Curse.

As oft quoted George Santayana is credited with the aphorism, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,” while British statesman Winston Churchill wrote, “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” I think the curse has officially been handed over. Go Dees

[Sir Why You Little 37,049]

13 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I definitely do as well.
I think too many people got too triggered by her during the tankquiry (even though she was pretty much on the money as to what was going to happen). 
She was right about Carlton's implosion in 2002. She was right about Hird and Essendon in 2013. She was right about us during the tanking saga. Eventually someone's track record should stack up, shouldn't it?

I don’t like her style of Reporting, never have. But she does have the Sources, most of the time. That i have been told and shown from TV Connections. 
So i am not suprised by this overall. 
But did SHE make it worse than what it was by her Media positions

Day after Day TV & Radio. Did this make Clarkson’s position even more untenable. 
That is the part of Wilson i do not like. 
She drives the nail in to get the Results she wants. 
Did the same to us in 2013-14

Wilson made the “Tanking” saga bigger than what it was

[Lord Nev 13,512]

4 minutes ago, BDA said:

I hope he takes a year off. That way if things don;t work out with Goody then we are an option for him (not a Goody bash, he has done well this year but he'll be 6 years in the job at the end of next year.  I hope Goody does lead us to the promised land but some hard decisions may have to be made if no flag this year or next)

Only thing is, we'd lose Yze and quite possibly Choco (if we haven't already by then) if Clarko came over.

IMO, if for some reason we change coaches in the next year or two it will be to put Yze in charge.

 

[DubDee 25,904]

40 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Or they were showing full respect for their champion coach.!!!!

where was this respect when they got smashed by Freo in Tassie or beaten by the crows at Marvel in the last 3 weeks?

zero excuses, a shameful performance by us to draw that game.  

[Ollie fan 3,421]

58 minutes ago, DubDee said:

4 time premiership coach essentially sacked! unbelievable!

18 month succession plan reduced to 2 weeks.

Possibly one of the worst club decisions in the history of the game. Mitchell is starting on a hiding to none.

It may be one of the worst club decisions in the history of the game, but it still pales into insignificance besides sacking a coach who had been in four premierships as a player, six premierships as coach, and has an inferior side at the top of the ladder, on the basis that you don’t like his attitude to the committee……..

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,814]

53 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I didn’t expect the Plan to go ahead into next year, but I thought Whorethorn would at least wait till October to say goodbye 

What a way to treat a 4 Time Coach hey, We should know. 
May Whorethorn implode from pure arrogance 

So Mitchell’s interview with Whately a couple of weeks ago on SEN was a complete and utter lie, all of it!!

Proves he's ready to be a senior coach.

[BDA 22,755]

11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Only thing is, we'd lose Yze and quite possibly Choco (if we haven't already by then) if Clarko came over.

IMO, if for some reason we change coaches in the next year or two it will be to put Yze in charge.

 

We my lose them anyways. We can't stand in the way of Yze if a top job elsewhere becomes available and Choco seems to have a use by date at any one club. If we do decide to change the coach it'll be because of under performance and hard to see how Yze wouldn't be tainted along with Goody. Pure conjecture on my part of course

For purely selfish purposes and keeping options open i hope Clarkson takes a year out

[daisycutter 29,617]

Just now, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Proves he's ready to be a senior coach.

or a future politician

[Adam The God 30,272]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Gobsmacked, after his impassioned commitment a mere week ago.

"The decision was reached on Thursday after a meeting between the Hawthorn board and Clarkson’s management in which the two parties agreed that the coach would receive a full payout.

The arranged marriage between Clarkson and Sam Mitchell was further-eroded earlier this week when a group of senior players confided to club bosses that the situation was proving untenable".

Senior players. WOW. 

Machiavelli would have been proud of how it has all played out!!

Terrible way to treat a 4 time premiership coach.  Hope it comes back to bite them for decades to come.

Alastair Clarkson's Curse? ? One can only hope.

Edited July 30, 2021 by A F
Luther beat me to it.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

We my lose them anyways. We can't stand in the way of Yze if a top job elsewhere becomes available and Choco seems to have a use by date at any one club. If we do decide to change the coach it'll be because of under performance and hard to see how Yze wouldn't be tainted along with Goody. Pure conjecture on my part of course

For purely selfish purposes and keeping options open i hope Clarkson takes a year out

Simply can not agree that Yze would be 'tainted' if Goodwin under performed as senior coach. If that logic rang true then we'd run out of AFL coaches pretty quickly.