POSTGAME: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

[dl4e 5,851]

Typical Melbourne.

[Damo 3,356]

1 minute ago, Purple77 said:

Damn, how about Luke Jackson though?

Was amazing today.

Its funny how some apologists are not quoting Luke Jackson when bleating Tall forwards take 5 years to make a difference.

[titan_uranus 25,020]

3 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

This game should’ve been played at the MCG irrespective of fans or no fans.

We’re playing for sheep stations at the moment and playing a game at a venue that a) clearly didn’t suit us and b) where we won’t playing in September did nobody any favours.

As I said during the week, we need to play as many games at the G to prefect our game plan and therefore the out of town home games need to finish, while the VIC government allows us to still play at the MCG.

As painful as the loss is, your position on this issue is both annoyingly repetitive and unrealistic.

It's bad luck in the extreme that we're the only club to have had two home games which have had to be moved out of Victoria. It's even worse luck that they happened to be two of our three biggest profit-making games for the year (the third being ANZAC Eve).

We're 11-2 in no small part due to the contributions of our assistant coaches, fitness staff, development staff, etc. If we don't recoup some of the $1M+ we are going to lose from missing out on the two games, we're not going to make it where we want to go.

It's entirely understandable that they looked to move the game somewhere where, through ticket sales, we could recoup some money. 

[Guest]

And just to rub it in that little bit more, my membership card just arrived.

Even more annoying in that I’ve been trying to order the indigenous guernsey and keep getting told they aren’t delivering to Japan. ?

[The heart beats true 18,123]

25 minutes ago, Stevienic23 said:

This is as dejecting as the round 23 loss against em and the lost to Port after Jimmy had passed

That’s a massive over reaction. We lost a game, but it won’t cost us finals. They always play well against us, and aside from last year have beaten us consistently for 5 years. They had everything to play for today, and we just looked tired and flat.

Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. It’s ok to be disappointed, but let’s not fall apart.

[I'va Worn Smith 973]

9 minutes ago, gs77 said:

Such a ****ful ground. No space.

Maybe, but both sides played on it.  One of those sides is a bottom 4 team.  That was the team that won the game.  Don't blame the bloody ground.  We were very ordinary today.

[buck_nekkid 5,861]

That was insipid.

lost the middle, no two way run, poor defensive efforts, players trying to do too much.

max Trac and Oliver all below par.

worse than Adelaide game.

no answers to pressure, no overlap, expecting others to do the work.

weids - who?  A good ff would demand the ball from the square. Brown has to come back in.

im shattered.  That was not 2021 demons.

[Hayden Junt 54]

Was at the game and everything I’m thinking has already been discussed here.

Was watching Weid off the ball and he is not up to it. Barely troubled the Pies defenders. He is unfortunately one of those players that dominate the VFL but can’t perform at the top level.

 Bring Ben in. 

[SPC 3,549]

30 minutes ago, Alex Flood said:

When we beat Essendon in a couple of weeks I don’t want to hear from any of the “supporters” who overreacted today.

We won’t beat Essendon. Book mark it and come at me..

[chookrat 4,250]

On a positive I'd rather lose to bottom 4 sides than top 4 contenders. Wins against the top sides effectively become 8 point matches when competing for a home final.

[Pipefitter 2,159]

The loss to Adelaide was tactical. This was just effort.

[Stevienic23 1,183]

5 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

That’s a massive over reaction. We lost a game, but it won’t cost us finals. They always play well against us, and aside from last year have beaten us consistently for 5 years. They had everything to play for today, and we just looked tired and flat.

Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. It’s ok to be disappointed, but let’s not fall apart.

What did they have to play for today? A bloke that's not going to be there next week? I'm not throwing the baby out with the bath water but let's call it for what it is. A [censored] loss!

[layzie 33,805]

Extremely disappointing performance, and a lot of us could see it coming. There was not one point in the game where I thought we'd win it. Most of the moments were hoping Collingwood could keep missing so we might stumble over the line in the end, total loser mentality as a fan really.

Big stage, top of the ladder team, spotlight on us, Big Freeze but no we didn't come to play did we? The season has seen us play some games completely out of our skin and maybe slightly above what our talent suggests but today as much as it hurts this is a great leveller and remainder that we are not a premiership contender yet. 

I can't wait for the freedom fighters to come in and tell us off for being negative and that "We're 11 and 2 you're acting like someone died". Yes we are 11-2 and it's a great achievement, but there's no rule against discussing negatives.

Beaten at our own game today. Blocked off the defensive exits, ran bloody hard for 110 uncontested marks. +30 odd differential in the uncontested possessions. The stats get worse the more you look at them. 18 marks inside 50 for the Pies? Seriously when has that happened against us this year? And where is our 'no fly zone' backline? Petty was not on, meant that we had to have Lever play man on man which he stinks at quite frankly. We could never move the ball beyond half back either.

Time in forward half 82% for the Pies. Game over. You literally couldn't have better stats if you wanted to beat us right now. 

So where to from here? Yes 11-2 is a bloody good launching pad for the second half and no-one is saying the sky is falling in but have we peaked early? As cruel as it sounds the first half of the season doesn't count for much come the end and there's been a ton of teams fall away. Be the front runner then keep fronting up. There comes a time where this isn't just about some nice wins to start the year and whatever happens happens. No, we have to treat every game now like a danger game. As far as losses that need to be had, save that bs for later in the season.

I'm trying my best to mellow out, I know nothing is as bad or good as it seems. So I'm sorry if this is a bit much.

Honestly I was going to go through the players but Individualising stuff isn't going to help. It took a team effort of sub par performances today. Salem, Jordan, Trac and maybe Gawn can hold their heads up. Other than that we looked drunk. The number of times there were 50-50 balls there to be won and I thought we'd easily get it but some poor skill error sent it back the other way.... 

It might have been in Sydney but Clayton Oliver really brought the Hollywood touch with two moments deciding to hang onto the ball and kill any momentum were were getting. Trent Rivers normally such a reliable kick had those 2 doozeys early. Weideman man seriously this guy could not catch a cold right now. I'd like to know how many holding the balls we were pinged for today, the classic case of a team playing flat is the lack of awareness and urgency. And the icing on the cake was when a goal would have brought us back in touch and Kozzie gets it about to show some of that magic and runs too far. That was the moment.

A very happy birthday, really just needed to get the W over the filth in what had otherwise been a good weekend. I know we're gonna drop games but I would have done anything to avoid it being this one. Instead I gotta go into the office and become the spokesperson for what went wrong, which isnt terrible if youve only done it twice this year but I dont want to. Gotta wear it.

Edited June 14, 2021 by layzie

[Jaded No More 68,915]

7 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

 They had everything to play for today, and we just looked tired and flat.

 

They are a bottom 4 side and we are trying to finish top 2 and win a flag. How did they have more to play for than us? 

[I'va Worn Smith 973]

1 minute ago, Stevienic23 said:

What did they have to play for today? A bloke that's not going to be there next week? I'm not throwing the baby out with the bath water but let's call it for what it is. A [censored] loss!

100% correct.

[Superunknown 4,217]

1 hour ago, Undeeterred said:

Do a ladder predictor sometime and see where you land

I’ve been doing them weekly. We will need other results to go our way in the next few weeks and beyond. 

[Sydee 4,442]

5 minutes ago, Hayden Junt said:

Was at the game and everything I’m thinking has already been discussed here.

Was watching Weid off the ball and he is not up to it. Barely troubled the Pies defenders. He is unfortunately one of those players that dominate the VFL but can’t perform at the top level.

 Bring Ben in. 

Weid was really poor I’ve seen him two weeks in a row and OMG he is so easy to defend 

now that I think about it if the 8 quarters I’ve seen I think we have played like spuds for 5 maybe 6 of them - I will stay away for a everyone’s benefit 

[Big Col 1,347]

2 minutes ago, chookrat said:

On a positive I'd rather lose to bottom 4 sides than top 4 contenders. Wins against the top sides effectively become 8 point matches when competing for a home final.

I think  a loss to a bottom 4 team means our head was in the wrong place.

A loss to a top 4 team means they might be better than us.

While i'd choose to never lose at all, losing to Collingwood and Adelaide but beating WB, Brisbane, Geel and Rich is way better than the other way around.

[drysdale demon 4,836]

25 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I couldn’t, even if I tried. What I have for the Dees is what can only be called ‘blind adoration.’ 
But enough about that. You didn’t answer my question: why are you always so grumpy?

I'm not grumpy, I just dislike the posters that keep potting the club and players and there are plenty of them on here.

[Webber 10,468]

33 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Ok, take a poll of DL posters who agree or not, then have another crack. Tell me Mr Webber, where do YOU think Weideman’s future lies? Based on his contribution to date. Collingwoods key forwards kicked 7 goals today, Weid did not get a kick! 

Yeah, not sure if you’re not getting the point deliberately, or just don’t get it. I have no doubt Weideman will be dropped, or that his form means he deserves to be. I dare say he’d agree. The point is that you’ve personally judged him as being a failure in his chosen career. If you met him, would you say that to his face? I sincerely hope the answer is no. If it isn’t, well…..

[monoccular 17,429]

At least we are unlikely to come across Colonwood or Adelaide in finals ??

[daisycutter 29,616]

suppose this means there will be no mfc shop discounts this week?

[Big Demon 197]

The team now has to get serious. Weideman, Petty , Brayshaw straight out. Sparrow needs more time as well but has some ability. The club needs more physicality tonight, Viney will be huge, need BBB leading forward and maybe Vanders to bring that extra muscle. We folded tonight.

 

[BDA 22,755]

Disappointing loss for sure but it's not like there are glaring deficiencies in the team. We were not switched on today but we have 2 weeks until the next game to sort out our mindset. Some honest conversations with Goody, Chocco and the leaders of the team will right the ship. Get back to the basics. Team first, selfless approach

I predict an attitude adjustment and a 5 goal win against the bombers

[Superunknown 4,217]

15 minutes ago, chookrat said:

On a positive I'd rather lose to bottom 4 sides than top 4 contenders. Wins against the top sides effectively become 8 point matches when competing for a home final.

We also lost the chance to maintain a 4 point buffer