COVID & AFL 2021

[DubDee 24,471]

7 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I’m happy to have the 15k for WA quarantine at my place - Carton of beer payment only.
#setforlife 🍻🍻🍻

McQueen’s Demon Quarantine, I like it! 15,000 slabs should do the job to celebrate or commiserate 

once you can guarantee an en suite and fresh linen I’ll be there 

[McQueen 17,864]

9 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

I'm in, Steve.

Cans or stubbles?

King browns mate. 😆

[Pates 9,625]

Liverpool won the premiership for the first time in 30 years in front of no fans. It sucked that no one could be there to enjoy it and the fans (rightly or wrongly) celebrated outside the ground as it happened. But I still enjoyed it and got great pleasure out of that moment of them breaking the drought. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,392]

Caroline Wilson reporting that Gary Pert wants all finals that Melbourne play in to be at the MCG, crowds or no crowds.

Wilson has also mooted that Adelaide Oval may be an option if Port make the GF.

[whatwhat say what 22,223]

9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Caroline Wilson reporting that Gary Pert wants all finals that Melbourne play in to be at the MCG, crowds or no crowds.

Wilson has also mooted that Adelaide Oval may be an option if Port make the GF.

a grand final without them would be...good for us? we seem to play the oval well

Edited August 11, 2021 by whatwhat say what

[Demonstone 21,860]

32 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I’m happy to have the 15k for WA quarantine at my place - Carton of beer payment only.

15,000 cartons of beer would build a nice little grandstand for all your new friends who could drink their way down from the top to the bottom.  Win or lose, there would be lots of tiers.

[praha 11,131]

13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Caroline Wilson reporting that Gary Pert wants all finals that Melbourne play in to be at the MCG, crowds or no crowds.

Wilson has also mooted that Adelaide Oval may be an option if Port make the GF.

Good. 

To be honest I could handle the game being interstate *if* I can be somewhere watching it with other supporters. The thought of being locked in my home watching it and not having anyone to celebrate with is actually my biggest fear. Not being able to go is one thing. Doing it in lockdown is probably the worst possible scenario.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,392]

14 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

clubs would be in uproar if the team that finishes 4th or 5th 'hosting' the grand final if they were to make it

a grand final without them would be...good for us? we seem to play the oval well

I’d have no issue if we had to play Port in Adelaide in a grand final despite us being the higher ranked side.

It’s absolutely no different to when Collingwood hosted West Coast in 2018, Richmond hosted Adelaide in the 2017 grand final, Dogs playing in their home state against Sydney in 2016, Hawthorn hosting West Coast in 2015, Hawthorn hosting Sydney in 2014 or even the minor premiers West Coast against Hawthorn in 1991.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Bring-Back-Powell

[titan_uranus 24,676]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I’m quite comfortable in the boys putting in a gallant prelim performance (as opposed to 2018) and then going one step further next year at the home of footy.

It's one thing to say you'll be disappointed with not being able to be at the GF this year if we make it.

Disappointed is an understatement for the majority of us who, like you, have followed this club for decades on end, going to game after game, belting after belting, hoping one day for us to become relevant.

But it's another thing to say this, which despite your later protestations, is the equivalent of saying you'd prefer us not make the GF this year so you can go next year.

It should be blindingly obvious to any Melbourne supporter that this might be our one and only shot. The comparison isn't interstate GF in 2021 vs home GF in 2022, it's interstate GF in 2021 vs no GF ever in your lifetime.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,392]

6 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

It's one thing to say you'll be disappointed with not being able to be at the GF this year if we make it.

Disappointed is an understatement for the majority of us who, like you, have followed this club for decades on end, going to game after game, belting after belting, hoping one day for us to become relevant.

But it's another thing to say this, which despite your later protestations, is the equivalent of saying you'd prefer us not make the GF this year so you can go next year.

It should be blindingly obvious to any Melbourne supporter that this might be our one and only shot. The comparison isn't interstate GF in 2021 vs home GF in 2022, it's interstate GF in 2021 vs no GF ever in your lifetime.

As I mentioned in a subsequent post, a prelim appearance and a gallant loss is a massive improvement from the 2018 prelim disaster and the sign of a club on the right track to contending for premierships, if not this year then certainly within the next 3-4 years given our list profile.

I’ll take it.

Prefer a flag, but I’ll take it for this year.

I’m supremely confident this isn’t our 1 and only shot at it.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Kozzie4PM 765]

15 minutes ago, praha said:

Good. 

To be honest I could handle the game being interstate *if* I can be somewhere watching it with other supporters. The thought of being locked in my home watching it and not having anyone to celebrate with is actually my biggest fear. Not being able to go is one thing. Doing it in lockdown is probably the worst possible scenario.

I'm with ya on this. Nothing would be as good as being there, but the pub with all my mates who I've gone with week in, week out for decades would be a pretty special day.

[Great Northern Summer 701]

20 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

As I mentioned in a subsequent post, a prelim appearance and a gallant loss is a massive improvement from the 2018 prelim disaster and the sign of a club on the right track to contending for premierships, if not this year then certainly within the next 3-4 years given our list profile.

I’ll take it.

Prefer a flag, but I’ll take it for this year.

I’m supremely confident this isn’t our 1 and only shot at it.

That’s what I blindly said after I walked out of the MCG on 2 September 2000 trying to be somewhat positive 😉

[Pennant St Dee 12,708]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Firstly, please quote where I said “I don’t want to win the flag this year”. You’re putting words in my mouth.

Secondly, I have the first dose of the AZ so not sure where you got that one from.

Thirdly, sympathies to your pal,

Fourthly,  I’ve got two seperate memberships valued at $1,600 that guarantee me GF tickets so pardon me for being a little disappointed if I’m not being able to attend.

I get your disappointment, 

I take you saying “ I’m quite comfortable with a gallant prelim performance and going one step further at the G next year” that you don’t really want them to win it this year

Was it in July you were against the finals only being open to those with double vaccination but you as being u/40 weren’t eligible for Pfizer, but when advised you could get AZ, you weren’t sure based on advice from the Feds

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,392]

3 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I get your disappointment, 

I take you saying “ I’m quite comfortable with a gallant prelim performance and going one step further at the G next year” that you don’t really want them to win it this year

Was it in July you were against the finals only being open to those with double vaccination but you as being u/40 weren’t eligible for Pfizer, but when advised you could get AZ, you weren’t sure based on advice from the Feds

 

Just to clarify, I want the Dees to win the flag just as much as anyone around here. I’ve been on this forum long enough to suggest I’m a passionate paid up Melb supporter.

If given the choice between watching the Dees live at the G or at home during lock down with nobody to celebrate the win… I’d probably choose the former if I’m being honest.

As for the vaccine argument, yes you’re correct.  I did think it was unfair to implement a no jab no entry policy when demand exceeded supply. I have  had an A-Z jab as I want to be protected ASAP, irrespective of footy.

[dazzledavey36 52,912]

I found the Gary Pert comment of him not worried if we played a grand final with or without crowd in in Melbourne extremely disappointing. 

He cannot be serious?

Playing in a grand final at the MCG with no crowd would be the biggest kick in the guts to all long time suffering supporters who have sat through the darkest of days seeing us getting pumped by 60 points most weeks. The one year we actually look like genuine premiership favourites it simply cannot be played in an empty stadium in Melbourne.  Even Simon Goodwin on Triple M today stated he would rather finals with crowds etc.

If Melbourne doesn't work then Perth simply has to become a genuine option.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,392]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I found the Gary Pert comment of him not worried if we played a grand final with or without crowd in in Melbourne extremely disappointing. 

He cannot be serious?

Playing in a grand final at the MCG with no crowd would be the biggest kick in the guts to all long time suffering supporters who have sat through the darkest of days seeing us getting pumped by 60 points most weeks. The one year we actually look like genuine premiership favourites it simply cannot be played in an empty stadium in Melbourne.  Even Simon Goodwin on Triple M today stated he would rather finals with crowds etc.

If Melbourne doesn't work then Perth simply has to become a genuine option.

That comment was from Caro Wilson, who is the best in the business, so we have every reason to believe that Pert did say it.

Having said that, Pert may have been referring to just the week 1 or 2 finals. I’m sure if it was the GF, his opinion would probably change.

[Demon Dynasty 17,098]

With approx 6 weeks to go to the GF surely we "could" be well out of lockdown by then and back to say 50% crowds?  I realise things need to be arranged well before then but how long do they need prior to the GF?

Whether we are in the big dance or not, even if things aren't perfect (Covid / lockdown wise) and it needs to be planned / organised ASAP for logistics / commercial/ catering / accommodation purposes plus the bubble.  Surely we can have a crowd of fully vaccinated (members first then the general public) attend the big one including security / catering staff and officials etc?  If not, why not?

Edited August 11, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[Demonland 70,327]

 

[Lucifers Hero 38,985]

11 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Cant actually believe supporters are actually saying I’d rather wait for the Dees to win a flag next year at the G, so I can be there. Talk about self centred.

Similar things were said last year, when we were travelling well. FCS there are no guarantees with this pandemic.

If we can win one this year I’m taking it, whether it be at the G, Gabba, AO or Optus. But I want to see the Dees win it in front of the biggest crowd possible and I’m sure the players would want to win it in front of a full house given the option

As that was part of your response to a post by me, I would like to say I'm definitely not one of those .  There are several posts earlier in this thread where I said I was willing to go into quarantine in another state, travel to SA for a few weeks prior to entering WA. 

Its been 20 years since we made a GF.  Who knows if we will even play in one next year or the year after.  It could be another 20 years before we play in one.  And, I have vivid memories of 2018 prelim then crashing in 2019.  I don't expect a crash to happen again but I'm not relying on future years for a GF appearance

I will do almost anything to get to a Demon 2021 GF regardless of where it is.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Lucifer's Hero

[Kent 2,863]

21 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

"It [vaccination] clearly works, so just go and get it."

From a man whose son caught Covid-19 at the MCG but didn't pass it on to his vaccinated parents.

See here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/melbourne-covid-delta-outbreak-vaccination-message/100366434?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf248432453&utm_campaign=abc_melbourne&utm_source=t.co&sf248432453=1

The issue for me was trying to get the vax

I'm not over 70 don't have any major health issues 

started trying to get  a shot in late Feb because I know vaccines assist in protection of the masses

Had to wait till June to get it! Not getting vaccinated was in my opinion not always the individuals' fault

The roll out programe was a farce Thankfully they seem to have their act together now

[Superunknown 4,076]

i have a GFG but honestly don’t care if I’m not there if we win it. Will still be epic. 

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

2 hours ago, Superunknown said:

i have a GFG but honestly don’t care if I’m not there if we win it. Will still be epic. 

Have to agree. I too have a GFG, have for years, back to when it was a running joke in the dim, dark past.

We've waited so long, a GF win in Perth would be great. They could play in Alice and I'd still be over the moon.

Beggars belief the thought of being satisfied with losing a prelim because we can't attend the big dance. Should start up a membership category 'Melbourne-lite' for that cohort!

But got to get there first

Go Dees!

 

 

Edited August 12, 2021 by Stiff Arm

[Pennant St Dee 12,708]

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

As that was part of your response to a post by me, I would like to say I'm definitely not one of those .  There are several posts earlier in this thread where I said I was willing to go into quarantine in another state, travel to SA for a few weeks prior to entering WA. 

Its been 20 years since we made a GF.  Who knows if we will even play in one next year or the year after.  It could be another 20 years before we play in one.  And, I have vivid memories of 2018 prelim then crashing in 2019.  I don't expect a crash to happen again but I'm not relying on future years for a GF appearance

I will do almost anything to get to a Demon 2021 GF regardless of where it is.

That highlighted part of my post certainly wasn’t directed towards you LH

[John Crow Batty 8,791]

If the GF can’t be played in Melbourne without crowds then Optus in Perth would be great. Aside from a selfish POV, it is a great stadium worthy of a GF. Has great atmosphere, state of the art facilities and the playing surface is identical to the MCG. I would only consider attending if we are playing in it. 

[daisycutter 29,343]

9 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

If the GF can’t be played in Melbourne without crowds then Optus in Perth would be great. Aside from a selfish POV, it is a great stadium worthy of a GF. Has great atmosphere, state of the art facilities and the playing surface is identical to the MCG. I would only consider attending if we are playing in it. 

agree it's a fantastic venue

not quite mcg size though - wing to wing is narrower

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• Field of play dimensions will be 165m along the east-west axis and 130m on the north-south axis. This is slightly shorter than Domain Stadium (Subiaco Oval) but aligned with the MCG, which is 160m x 141m.

 

Edited August 12, 2021 by daisycutter