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12 hours ago, deegirl said:

From his first game I've been in football love with Clarry.  He's a gun and does not get enough credit from our supporters.

Clarrie's was certainly the most exciting debut I can remember - even the Ox.

I thought just wow!  How can a debutante do such stuff.

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8 hours ago, CYB said:

Love his work. I think we have 3 of the top 10 players in the comp at the moment in Oliver, Trac and Gawn and probably another 2-3 in the top 20 (Lever, Salo and May). 

Such a balanced side playing great team footy. Love Oliver's 2-way running this year and his improved kicking. He is still a young boy and still has some upside. 

Could he win a brownlow? 

Still paying $17 which I thought was pretty high. Easily BOG the last 2 games and would've racked up votes in other games as well.

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Re that spooky '9+ straight wins = Premiership' that Ch.7 threw up: in none of those years was No.13 in the team. And, indeed, in the Glorious55to64 there was no No.13.

Just sayin'...

 

Thooooough...

...Les Jones kicked 3 in 1939, and Max Spittle was among the best in 1948...

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Love this kid. Funny though, while his kicking has improved, his goal kicking goes backwards. My only knock on him previously was he seemed to be lazy when the opposition had the ball, but this is no longer the case (same with Bradshaw), he is on track to being our best mid since Tulip, possibly better (though I only saw the second half of his career).

 

This team can be anything, backs like Salem, Lever, Hunt, May and Rivers, wings in Lingers and Gus, mids in Trac, Clarry and Viney, forwards in TMac, Brown, Weideman, ANB Spargo and Kossie, Jackson replacing one, led by Gawn, I expect the drought to break with a 50s like flood!

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Still paying $19 on Ladbrokes for the Brownlow.

They're offering cashout on Petracca at 2-1 (he was 13-1 at start of season). And they were offering cashouts at 3-1 the other day which shows they think he is less likely to win than last week.

Demons were 26-1 on Ladbrokes start of season (I had 10 on them), Ladbrokes is now offering early cash out at 4.16....gone up from $3 last week. The money is coming in for the Dees it seems.

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2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Without Clarry in the team we would not be 9-0

True enough, his third and last quarters in particular, have been instrumental in getting us over the line in some tight (ish) games. Just a super competitor with that fierce will to win, that is reserved for champions!

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On 5/19/2021 at 10:16 AM, picket fence said:

True enough, his third and last quarters in particular, have been instrumental in getting us over the line in some tight (ish) games. Just a super competitor with that fierce will to win, that is reserved for champions!

Yep. How often have I thought "oh yeah Oliver's been good - alright I guess" then when the game is on the line in Q3-4 he goes to another level

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If he can consistently keep his legs moving, if he can stop mouthing off at the umps so he gets umpired correctly (should get 5 free kicks a game) and if he can kick at a decent level he’ll be the best midfielder in the game.

I think he’s made improvements in all 3 areas, with the kicking still needing the most work.

Last night was his best game ever, but there’s still room for improvement. 

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best player at the club period !   His effort should have won us the game alas mistakes by max and lever (stupid push in back) cost us         Have I mentioned I hate Adelaide with their massive inferior complex..  but they should have  the state is inferior (bunch of tools)   just a big country town who bludges of the big states almost as bad as Tassie

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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

If he can consistently keep his legs moving, if he can stop mouthing off at the umps so he gets umpired correctly (should get 5 free kicks a game) and if he can kick at a decent level he’ll be the best midfielder in the game.

I think he’s made improvements in all 3 areas, with the kicking still needing the most work.

Last night was his best game ever, but there’s still room for improvement. 

Setting a high bar there DS. 

If he played most games like the best game an MFC player's probably played in the last 5 years per yesterday i'd be in footy Shangri-La!

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Our midfield runs on Clarry. Without him we're nowhere. With Viney a likely in next week, Oliver and Petracca can hopefully go to the next level. There probably isn't another level available for Clarry, given his 10/10 Adelaide performance. Maybe his mate with the seven year contract can come with him next week though. Looking forward to seeing us bounce back.

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His form this season is spectacular.  Other than the GWS game, he's been absolutely outstanding.  His form line rarely alters irrespective of the team performance.  That is the mark of a genuine champion.  He is that now.

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1 hour ago, A F said:

Our midfield runs on Clarry. Without him we're nowhere. With Viney a likely in next week, Oliver and Petracca can hopefully go to the next level. There probably isn't another level available for Clarry, given his 10/10 Adelaide performance. Maybe his mate with the seven year contract can come with him next week though. Looking forward to seeing us bounce back.

I thought Petracca was decent yesterday, won several clearances (he did tend to blaze away with them though), kicked an important goal in the 3rd from outside 50 and continued to run and present options. I think people are being a but harsh on Petracca, Oliver was phenomenal but I thought Petracca played well also (barring that late fumble on the wing).

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15 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I thought Petracca was decent yesterday, won several clearances (he did tend to blaze away with them though), kicked an important goal in the 3rd from outside 50 and continued to run and present options. I think people are being a but harsh on Petracca, Oliver was phenomenal but I thought Petracca played well also (barring that late fumble on the wing).

He was great in the first half. Was okay in the second half, but made some pretty crucial errors. And yes, that fumble cost us the game, but you could say so many other moments cost us, but we were away and a couple of goals up. That was it.

I love Trac, I just think Clarry is a different, but better player.

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I felt for him last night. His performance deserved to be credited as dragging us over the line. His will to win was awe inspiring. I knew he was a great footballer but what I saw in the last quarter last night really showed he’s at another level.

 

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He is our best player because his overall performance isnt reliant on those couple of key moments. He does it every week: he beats his man, and wins the ball and uses it well.

However those key moments are what will make him a generational player. Weeks where he has 10 score involvements or 3 goals as well as his usual impact are absolute world beating, and put him close to best player in the comp.

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Probably could have put this elsewhere. Not that it matters (aside from a groundswell of public perception driven by the media, that in-turn influences umpire vote giving ?) but it's nice to know that some sections of the media see that Clayton is 'criminally underrated'.

 

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/it-s-bont-v-petracca-in-big-showdown-20210523-p57ud0.html

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https://www.afl.com.au/news/620392
 

4th best ever individual game since 2010 under the Player Ratings model.

Watching him on the TV was amazing. The supporters that attended the game must have been picking up their jaws with that display. 

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