Cards13 9,117 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Patton announces immediate AFL retirement and apologises for ‘inappropriate behaviour’ Quote
Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,060 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 No.1 draft picks haven't exactly had the best run of late have they? Watts Scully Boyd McCartin Patton Just the ones that come to mind. Different reasons and nothing personal as a whole. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,711 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Hawthorn have had some dreadful recruiting in the last 4 or 5 years. 2 1 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,529 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, A F said: Hawthorn have had some dreadful recruiting in the last 4 or 5 years. Long May they dwell in the doldrums 5 2 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said: No.1 draft picks haven't exactly had the best run of late have they? Watts Scully Boyd McCartin Patton Just the ones that come to mind. Different reasons and nothing personal as a whole. Add Rayner, Rowel & Ugle-Hagen to that list for now, the curse of number one... Whitfield is struggling to get on the park. Also Scully & Kreuzer were cut down by injury. So, of the 2000's the first 3 had good careers... 2000 Riewoldt, 2001 Hodge, 2002 Goddard. ...but since then the pickings from the pick are hit and miss. Luck still plays a big part. 1 Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Injuries cruelled his career like many others. Very ordinary behaviour off-field so hopefully he has copped on to himself and can make a go of life post footy. It’s a poisoned chalice being No.1. Not sure I’d want my boy or girl to go at that selection. They’re just kids thrust into the spotlight and have the hopes and dreams of a whole fanbase projected onto them. I’d hate living in that fishbowl and under that kind of intense scrutiny. Really feel for Rowell in particular. Burst onto the scene looking the real deal, future brownlow and 300-gamer. 2 serious injuries back to back is a big worry. I really hope he has some luck, gets himself right and can play an extended period of footy. 3 1 Quote
ProperDee 1,698 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Yes, Rowell is an exceptionally gifted young footballer. I’d be wrapping him in cotton wool for the year again. The Suns aren’t going anywhere soon. Why rush to get him back on the field? Quote
pitmaster 3,591 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 It's good to see Hawthorn's arrogance trip them up. Recently they have taken the view they are special enough that they can revive the careers of injury troubled high draft picks like Scully, Patton, O'Meara, and it's not really working out. In case anyone's in any doubt, that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they've those four recent flags to enjoy. Oh well. 3 Quote
Engorged Onion 10,224 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, RigidMiddleDigit said: It's good to see Hawthorn's arrogance trip them up. Recently they have taken the view they are special enough that they can revive the careers of injury troubled high draft picks like Scully, Patton, O'Meara, and it's not really working out. In case anyone's in any doubt, that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they've those four recent flags to enjoy. Oh well. What's the difference between arrogance and backing yourself @RigidMiddleDigit? Quote
pitmaster 3,591 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said: What's the difference between arrogance and backing yourself @RigidMiddleDigit? In the first instance it may not be that much, but when you keep doing it and it does not get the results you expected it's time to rethink. 1 Quote
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, RigidMiddleDigit said: It's good to see Hawthorn's arrogance trip them up. Recently they have taken the view they are special enough that they can revive the careers of injury troubled high draft picks like Scully, Patton, O'Meara, and it's not really working out. In case anyone's in any doubt, that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they've those four recent flags to enjoy. Oh well. Started with James Frawley added to their list. Underwhelming first season but lucky to get a cameo in their last premiership win. Since then he did nothing much and epitomised Hawthorn’s recruiting strategy failures and steady decline. Edited April 17, 2021 by John Crow Batty Quote
Cranky Franky 2,270 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Cards13 said: Patton announces immediate AFL retirement and apologises for ‘inappropriate behaviour’ A shame for mine. He claims to have genuine regret for his actions. I would have liked to see him become a spokesman & educate young players coming into the system on how to relate to women properly. 1 Quote
david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 10 hours ago, A F said: Hawthorn have had some dreadful recruiting in the last 4 or 5 years. They got Scully and Patton for nothing though 2 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 Patton should have come to the Dees. He was a Dees supporter and was exactly the big full forward that we needed over the past few years. Injuries and stupidity cost him his career. Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said: No.1 draft picks haven't exactly had the best run of late have they? Watts Scully Boyd McCartin Patton Just the ones that come to mind. Different reasons and nothing personal as a whole. Doggies fans would love Boyd. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,711 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 4 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said: They got Scully and Patton for nothing though And they barely played... Quote
daisycutter 30,004 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Cranky Franky said: A shame for mine. He claims to have genuine regret for his actions. I would have liked to see him become a spokesman & educate young players coming into the system on how to relate to women properly. what a dumb, knee-jerk suggestion get someone who has no idea how to treat women and let him loose on young players......sheesh 4 Quote
Pates 9,695 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 I’d be very interested to have a look at the over hit vs miss rate on number one draft picks. It really looks like it’s a poisoned chalice. Patton, Watts, Scully, McCartin off the top of my head are number one draft picks that have had early ends to their career. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,449 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Cranky Franky said: A shame for mine. He claims to have genuine regret for his actions. I would have liked to see him become a spokesman & educate young players coming into the system on how to relate to women properly. And what great advice would he have to pass on? Patton is lucky not to be in jail very ordinary human being 3 Quote
bing181 9,470 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: And what great advice would he have to pass on? Patton is lucky not to be in jail very ordinary human being Also a very troubled human being. Which doesn't excuse being "ordinary", but the two often go hand in hand. Hopefully he can get the help he needs, he's clearly not in a good place. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,449 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, bing181 said: Also a very troubled human being. Which doesn't excuse being "ordinary", but the two often go hand in hand. Hopefully he can get the help he needs, he's clearly not in a good place. He can get all the help he needs, what about his victims (recipients) If he wasn’t an AFL Footballer he would be in a cell. But why do people all of a sudden think he can be an educator just because he was an AFL Listed Player. 3 Quote
Demonsone 2,056 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said: No.1 draft picks haven't exactly had the best run of late have they? Watts Scully Boyd McCartin Patton Just the ones that come to mind. Different reasons and nothing personal as a whole. The sad part there 2 from the MFC & not to mention all the other misses we had.....unbelievable 1 Quote
Cranky Franky 2,270 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said: And what great advice would he have to pass on? Patton is lucky not to be in jail very ordinary human being Ah SWYL - The Hanging Judge - predictable comments. Can you provide evidence that his offences deserved jail. No doubt you would have given Liam Jurrah 10 years in the slammer for his indiscretions. I happen to believe in redemption & 2nd chances. I have no reason to doubt his sincerity & am sorry he retired. I guess you never stuffed up in your 20's. 1 Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 Patton didn't need to apologize on the way out. He did that earlier when the story of his misdemeanors broke. Let the guy get on with his life. Quote
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