Can Petracca Save the Demons?

[Demonland 71,624]

 

[rjay 24,887]

When I looked at the headline I thought..."what fool wrote this!"

Well, I should have guessed....

 

I had a few other words censored, but basically meaning someone a bit challenged in the thought department...

 

Edited March 19, 2021 by rjay

[faultydet 7,594]

Don't paste full stories mate.

Copyright issues that can bite the owners of this site.

[Axis of Bob 11,687]

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

Don't paste full stories mate.

Copyright issues that can bite the owners of this site.

And nobody needs to be subjected to articles of that quality. Please, just think of the children .....

[whatwhat say what 22,700]

one player doesn't make a side

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

Yep. As others have said, ridiculous statement.

Great teams are just great teams. Take Dusty out of the Richmond side and it'd be a blip on the radar.

 

Edited March 19, 2021 by Cheesy D. Pun

[Roost it far 8,186]

3 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Yep. As others have said, ridiculous statement.

Great teams are just great teams. Take Dusty out of the Richmond side and it'd be a blip on the radar.

 

You take Dusty out and they’d of lost to Geelong last year

[Rocky Racoon 7]

Can someone tell me who Robbo played for in the AFL? He must be an expert!

[The Swimming Dee 1,904]

10 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

You take Dusty out and they’d of lost to Geelong last year

and they lose last night

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

You take Dusty out and they’d of lost to Geelong last year

It's an impossible hypothetical to evaluate, so I'm not going to disagree but Richmond were all over Geelong in the second half. The result seemed inevitable.

I'm not trying to suggest that match winners don't exist but that a team's overall performance isn't defined by one player.

Without Dusty, Richmond would still be a very strong side. 

[Dr.D 1,771]

I have no idea how slobbo robbo is a chief football writer. He absolutely butchers the English language. He says 'anythinK' and 'arksed' and slurs his words.  He is one of the most uneducated blokes going around. mind boggling. 

[ProperDee 1,698]

Right up there with Jonathan Brown’s “Marebnnn”. You can take the kid out of the country......

[rjay 24,887]

1 minute ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

It's an impossible hypothetical to evaluate, so I'm not going to disagree but Richmond were all over Geelong in the second half. The result seemed inevitable.

I'm not trying to suggest that match winners don't exist but that a team's overall performance isn't defined by one player.

Without Dusty, Richmond would still be a very strong side. 

Yep, they've proven in other situations.

They couldn't win without Rance (I actually thought that one) but have sailed through and it's like Rance who...

They've won games without Jack and Cotch when they were a 3 player team.

Couldn't cover the loss of the ruckman...

Only had one key forward, no way you can win with that set up...did.

They are a strong side as you say.

How would they go without Graham and Lambert covering for Martin?

They had the Cats on toast, we will never know how they would go without Martin.

[old dee 23,782]

34 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

one player doesn't make a side

Well after watching last night one got them over the line. Without dusty no tiger flags IMO.

[old dee 23,782]

11 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

It's an impossible hypothetical to evaluate, so I'm not going to disagree but Richmond were all over Geelong in the second half. The result seemed inevitable.

I'm not trying to suggest that match winners don't exist but that a team's overall performance isn't defined by one player.

Without Dusty, Richmond would still be a very strong side. 

But would they have won those flags without him? I think not.

[drdrake 3,162]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

Well after watching last night one got them over the line. Without dusty no tiger flags IMO.

Richmond are well drilled and all players play there role.  Dusty has a big role and with out him you are most likely right but that is irrelevant as they have him and 3 cups.

Pettacca has an equally important role as Martin.  Like Martin, Petracca alone doesn't win you flags, helps  but needs all other players to play their role

[old dee 23,782]

8 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Richmond are well drilled and all players play there role.  Dusty has a big role and with out him you are most likely right but that is irrelevant as they have him and 3 cups.

Pettacca has an equally important role as Martin.  Like Martin, Petracca alone doesn't win you flags, helps  but needs all other players to play their role

I am well aware of that Dr. I was answering the point of " one player does not win you flags" which is of course correct. We have not had a game winner / Turner type for what seems like forever. I don't see that in Petracca yet. He plays a lot of good games but not within a bulls roar of Martin.

Edited March 19, 2021 by old dee

[Little Goffy 14,463]

Pretty sure I've seen the same headline but with 'Can Gawn save the Demons?" in a previous year.

Petracca may well finish the season recognised as the best player in the AFL, which is nice.

But we all know that real success will come from getting consistent quality out of the players who can be very good, never mind any superstars.  We have a long list of the type and they could just about all be having much more impact with just a few tweaks and improvements.

Just doing a quick head-count to consider if we could, in theory, have a best 22 100% filled with at least well-above-average players if they each manage just that little extra step.

Already there;  

Petracca, Oliver, Gawn, May, Langdon.

There if refreshed, returned to their better form, or otherwise tidied up a bit; 

Viney, Lever, Brayshaw, Harmes, Salem, Brown

Young players I'd feel confident about;

Jackson, Rivers, Pickett.

So that's 14 players I feel confident will be 'good' at the Demons in 2021. 

Somehow we have to find eight more (plus injury cover) out of that big bundle of mature but not presently reliable players and the dozen still relatively unknown younger players.

For some reason I think it'll happen. There's space for multiple solid role-players to do their thing without needing to be spectacular. THAT is the benefit of having a couple of guns who can dominate.

 

 

 

 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Soon the great Robbie Flower will be relegated to the 2nd best Demon of the last 50 years.

 Petracca is on a whole other level......  the Barassi, Leigh Matthews, Ablett Jnr and Dustin Martin level.

[58er 6,396]

1 hour ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Yep. As others have said, ridiculous statement.

Great teams are just great teams. Take Dusty out of the Richmond side and it'd be a blip on the radar.

 

That is not the case 2018 Prelim he played injured and their record is almost total wins if he runs on fit! But the rest not so good. 

[ManDee 7,124]

2 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Soon the great Robbie Flower will be relegated to the 2nd best Demon of the last 50 years.

 Petracca is on a whole other level......  the Barassi, Leigh Matthews, Ablett Jnr and Dustin Martin level.

Wash your mouth out with soap P2J! You obviously did not see Flower play. You really need to watch some Robbie highlights, he was sublime.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,693]

7 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Soon the great Robbie Flower will be relegated to the 2nd best Demon of the last 50 years.

 Petracca is on a whole other level......  the Barassi, Leigh Matthews, Ablett Jnr and Dustin Martin level.

Did you see Flower play? The distance between Flower and Petracca at his best is marginally less than a light year. 

[Doug Reemer 1,195]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Stock standard Slobbo trying to throw melb under the bus before we start the year. Can't wait for his annual tanking saga article before we play essendon this year!!

[The heart beats true 18,110]

The only thing I like about these articles is that I hope it makes Clayton furious that he’s been overtaken. I love him when he gets fired up.

[tiers 2,829]

20 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Soon the great Robbie Flower will be relegated to the 2nd best Demon of the last 50 years.

 Petracca is on a whole other level......  the Barassi, Leigh Matthews, Ablett Jnr and Dustin Martin level.

Offensive to Robbie. There will only ever be one Robbie in all of footy histoy. No one that I have seen in over 60 years comes close in skill and outright ability in a body that was not made for footy.

Even more so that Robbie, unlike all the others, played in a poor team whereas the others named all played in powerful, successful teams that won premierships. They each had plenty of support where Robbie had almost none.

As for Petracca, the others named could regularly win matches almost on their own a stength that Petracca, although dominant at times, has yet to master. When it comes, then we can talk about comparisons.