Neeld was underrated 

We deserved to get done for tanking.

James Harmes is underrated.

David Neitz was not awarded an All Australian as a backman and a forward.

Jordan Gysberts had all the makings of an excellent player and should have been retained.

Never warmed to Jesse Hogan.

Jeff Farmer was/is a highly overrated player (still love him though).

Trading pick 2 in 2013 was the right thing to do.

I love Alistair Nicholson.

 

.

Edited December 4, 20205 yr by Nascent

I stopped watching the Dees from 2007-2013, because I had better things to do.

 

 

Oscar McDonald stopped the best forwards going around.

Our list isn’t in the top 8 in the Comp

Fritsch should go back to defence.

Olivers kicking is a liability

Collingwood are my second team.

Omac should never have been let go he was our next gun full back in the making. 

On 12/4/2020 at 4:51 PM, Dannyz said:

 

Joel Smith is already a handy defender, particularly in 1 v 1's, and will develop into a really good lock down KPB

I agree he is very good 1 on 1.  Does literally nothing else at the moment though.

Perhaps he can  replace Neville Jetta as our lockdown defender on small/mid sized forwards? I am sure I will get torched for that suggestion.

Melbourne supporters are eternally optimistic.

22 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Made too many short term moves. Wasted two years with an awful one way defensive game plan that didn’t provide any value when Goodwin took over with a modern attacking game plan. This was the first year we’ve strived to both attack and defend at the same time.

Also left Goodwin to deal with Watts and Hogan when they should’ve been his number 1 priorities. 

The club didn’t secure the right CEO and didn’t get an experienced head of footy. 
 

The list build switched far too quick in to trying to plug holes rather than trying to add talent. Glen Bartlett can talk all he likes about the list management strategy but I don’t believe there really is one. 

Settle down mate. The team which Roos handed over played a prelim final two years later.  We handled Watts perfectly well, and got, effectively , a good deal for Hogan. And then recruited BRILLIANTLY this year

We should have taken Dustin Martin with pick 1 or 2 in the 2009 draft.

8 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

We should have taken Dustin Martin with pick 1 or 2 in the 2009 draft.

We should have taken Old Chopsticks with Picks 1 AND 2.

Prefer Mahoney with the CEO gig

18 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

I agree he is very good 1 on 1.  Does literally nothing else at the moment though.

Perhaps he can  replace Neville Jetta as our lockdown defender on small/mid sized forwards? I am sure I will get torched for that suggestion.

He actually did ok on Papley in Cairns.

He was a disaster against James Stewart of Essendon who was too tall for him and booted 3 in a shortened game.

I would say if he’s to make it, it will be on the oppos small/mid fwd as you mentioned.

18 hours ago, Farmer said:

Settle down mate. The team which Roos handed over played a prelim final two years later.  We handled Watts perfectly well, and got, effectively , a good deal for Hogan. And then recruited BRILLIANTLY this year

Roos handed over to Goodwin for the last game of 2015, who completely re did the game plan and built a side that made finals but wasn’t a real contender.

Now we’re rebuilding again on the fly because we didn’t get enough talent in the first time and the fundamentals were never truly established. 
 

Im not saying Roos was all bad. He turned around a sinking ship which was a phenomenal effort. But he didn’t put anything in place to last long term. Almost all the people he bought in are gone. 
 

When the AFL stepped in to take over Brisbane they did it with David Noble heading up the footy department and an experienced coach in Chris Fagan. 
 

Watts and Hogan were ticking time bombs. Credit to Goodwin for making the tough calls on both of them. ‘The no [censored]’ bloods policy clearly didn’t make it down from Sydney 

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He actually did ok on Papley in Cairns.

He was a disaster against James Stewart of Essendon who was too tall for him and booted 3 in a shortened game.

I would say if he’s to make it, it will be on the oppos small/mid fwd as you mentioned.

I am Smith fan but that bombers game was very concerning. He was beat by Stewart multiple times, Laverde and Draper. I don’t think size was as much the issue as an ability to read the play and stand a man. The same problem has hurt all our defenders apart from May, but Smith is particularly worrying given his lack of footy. Earlier in the year Smith shut down McKay and Rohan who are dumb straight line footballers, then got exposed by Riewoldt who he could easily handle for speed and size but who confused him with short leads and fakes. 

Some of our deep zoning was truly diabolical which makes me worry about Chaplin. I don’t think he’s the right man to develop Smith. If Smith was at a side like Richmond or Sydney that develops defenders properly I think he’d make it. 
 

We insist on a lot of zoning even inside d50 and the likes of Lever and Tomlinson just won’t be trusted deep, which means Smith has to be deep if he’s in the side and any mistake is super costly. Smalls who he can play man on man on is likely an easier role than talls who can confuse him. Frost had all the same troubles but started to get the hang of it this year at Hawthorn. So it is possible but it takes a lot of good coaching and time. Smith might not have either of those.

I'll miss OMac.

Vanders doesn't do much.

Jacko's mo is too much, man.

Jake Lever is one of the most overrated players to have ever put on the red and blue.

 

Gus Brayshaw wouldn't get a game at any top 8 side

2 hours ago, Elegt said:

Jake Lever is one of the most overrated players to have ever put on the red and blue.

 

 

 

Not sure abut that elegt,.  Don't see him rated highly by anyone.

• Hogan, $cully and Watts are just misunderstood,
• Viney's disposal is good . . . his teammates just don't know where to run,
• Jackson is all potential, probably won't make it,
• Neeld should have been shifted into a head of coaching role,
• Daniher and Swooper under-achieved with rich talent and unlimited resources,
• I've got a soft spot for Eddie, Alan McAllister and Ranald MacDonald,
• Footscay's premiership wasn't a fluke,
• I'm really happy for GWS and the B#ms,
• The sooner Melbourne play more home games in the Territory the better,
• Collingwood should have beaten us in 1964 Granny.