On 11/7/2020 at 3:13 PM, Pollyanna said:

FWIW I've already posted my preference in this thread:

• May, Petty, Lever
• Salem, Hibberd, Rivers, Smith

But Smith is unproven I agree

will be Hore, then ur spot on

19 hours ago, COOLX said:

Following the trade news early today via Zero Hanger  under player changes to date, two unknown demon players were to be transferred to the Adelaide Crows. There were no names , then later in the day the incident disappeared. Does anyone know if Brayshaw is going to get traded , surely we can't play him and Viney play in the one side.

it was probably an old article about Sparrow and Petty there were rumours circulating before they both signed up last month

4 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I like the sound of this post, complemented by the previous post from AF on 7th Nov. It makes very good sense and as such, provides an improved pathway for Harmes as a utility/forward/mid rotating with Petracca. Viney as a pressure forward is the way to go, as well - out of the centre, into the hot zone. All complements well, I'd say. Releases same-team midline congestion, as well as grunt and pace where critical. 

 

God help any opposition who pick up the ball with viney in our forward line!

He would be the easiest player to run off, rugby players are not the smartest players around.

3 hours ago, defuture15 said:

God help any opposition who pick up the ball with viney in our forward line!

There are no scoops from Ricky Nixon tonight because he simply doesn’t have any. 

His focus this week is what he thinks the likes of Carlton need to do to get Saad and maybe Merrett etc across the line ... what Geelong need to do for Cameron ... where Treloar is headed and can Collingwood trade Stephenson and Cox or dreaming.     

He will run through where every club is at tomorrow night starting with the clubs doing the least amount of trading and putting faith in the young players who got 10-20 games in to them this year...and they are Fremantle, Sydney & Hawthorn ... whilst others like Port, Richmond & West Coast have no salary cap room to pull off a big deal with Nth Adel and GCS fighting the old fight of not being destination clubs.   

Essendon hold a lot of the cards but need to do some deals early this week or other clubs will walk away. Brisbane have done all they need to do with Daniher and key recontracting of young guns.     

GWS are doing an Essendon and saying if you want out get out because we can't build a club of individuals.   

The Doggies will go hard to get the best deal from Essendon for Dunkley and use it on Treloar and maybe Cox ... now that could be interesting if they perform better under a different coach.
 

11 hours ago, Travy14 said:

And Viney

Basically Viney is a Vic.

Todd came here in 1986 and played 12 years or so snd only went back I reckon  fir coaching in SA fir 5 years before he returned to Hawks I think. Then came back to us.

Basically Jack has lived 20 out of 25 years in Vic not SA.And would have been born in Vic in 1994 !

My best guess is that we wanted Isaac Smith for free and to move up the order to take a draft prospect (Finlay Macrae?).  We can't take Brown and then Phillips or Polec with picks, and also move up the order and we think the draft option is preferred to the latter.  Hence trade for pick 43 is a step on the path.

 

Paying Phillips $600K?? Who has been in charge of their cap and list management, a 5 year old? I’ve an idea how we can get more players in - just back end all contracts! I see no issues for 2-3 years. What could go wrong??

37 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

The first comment on that is priceless 

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Paying Phillips $600K?? Who has been in charge of their cap and list management, a 5 year old? I’ve an idea how we can get more players in - just back end all contracts! I see no issues for 2-3 years. What could go wrong??

I'd think all clubs do this to some degree.  They know that the TPP has increases built into it.  Back loading is the equivalent of investment 'ponzi schemes' (Eventually you can't pay what is outstanding and the whole thing collapses.  Works great in growing markets but it can quickly go into reverse).

Covid related TPP reductions has brought those plans undone. 

Collingwood's problems seem linked to the Beam's trade, apparently at Eddie's behest and the arrival of a new List Manager whose experience was as a player manager so may not be too adept at balancing the numbers.

Edited November 8, 20205 yr by Lucifer's Hero

So far looking likely options (imv as very tough guesstimates) 

pick swaps with Lions 43 and 2021 future 4th rd for MFC 53 and future 2021 3rd rd 

Ins.
 

Ben Brown for MFC 2020 pick 43 and future 2021 2nd round

Andrew Phillips for MFC (Lions) future 2021 4th round  

outs. 
Hannan and MFC pick 68 for dogs future 3rd round

Preuss and MFC 2021 4th round pick for 2020 GWS pick 31. 

TMC for EssFC future 2021 3rd round pick 

OMC delisted free agent 

 

Leaves us with 

2020 2nd rd Pick 26, 31 4th rd 69  + Ben Brown + Phillips (x Preuss Hannan Tmc OMc) 

2021 MFC 1st rd Pick , DOGS 3rd rd pick, EssFC 3rd rd pick 

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

The first comment on that is priceless 

The Lionel Hutz one?

22 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

So far looking likely options (imv as very tough guesstimates) 

pick swaps with Lions 43 and 2021 future 4th rd for MFC 53 and future 2021 3rd rd 

Ins.
 

Ben Brown for MFC 2020 pick 43 and future 2021 2nd round

Andrew Phillips for MFC (Lions) future 2021 4th round  

outs. 
Hannan and MFC pick 68 for dogs future 3rd round

Preuss and MFC 2021 4th round pick for 2020 GWS pick 31. 

TMC for EssFC future 2021 3rd round pick 

OMC delisted free agent 

 

Leaves us with 

2020 2nd rd Pick 26, 31 4th rd 69  + Ben Brown + Phillips (x Preuss Hannan Tmc OMc) 

2021 MFC 1st rd Pick , DOGS 3rd rd pick, EssFC 3rd rd pick 

I'd rather us try get an Essendon 3rd rounder this year and then try move up 26,31, and Essendon 3rd to the dogs first round pick. picks 26 and 31 will end up being late 30s/early 40s, that wouldn't be a great result for us.

24 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

So far looking likely options (imv as very tough guesstimates) 

pick swaps with Lions 43 and 2021 future 4th rd for MFC 53 and future 2021 3rd rd 

Ins.
 

Ben Brown for MFC 2020 pick 43 and future 2021 2nd round

Andrew Phillips for MFC (Lions) future 2021 4th round  

outs. 
Hannan and MFC pick 68 for dogs future 3rd round

Preuss and MFC 2021 4th round pick for 2020 GWS pick 31. 

TMC for EssFC future 2021 3rd round pick 

OMC delisted free agent 

 

Leaves us with 

2020 2nd rd Pick 26, 31 4th rd 69  + Ben Brown + Phillips (x Preuss Hannan Tmc OMc) 

2021 MFC 1st rd Pick , DOGS 3rd rd pick, EssFC 3rd rd pick 

Im optimistic we'll strike a better deal than a future 3rd rounder out of the dogs for Hannan but the rest sound very fair

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

So far looking likely options (imv as very tough guesstimates) 

pick swaps with Lions 43 and 2021 future 4th rd for MFC 53 and future 2021 3rd rd 

Ins.
 

Ben Brown for MFC 2020 pick 43 and future 2021 2nd round

Andrew Phillips for MFC (Lions) future 2021 4th round  

outs. 
Hannan and MFC pick 68 for dogs future 3rd round

Preuss and MFC 2021 4th round pick for 2020 GWS pick 31. 

TMC for EssFC future 2021 3rd round pick 

OMC delisted free agent 

 

Leaves us with 

2020 2nd rd Pick 26, 31 4th rd 69  + Ben Brown + Phillips (x Preuss Hannan Tmc OMc) 

2021 MFC 1st rd Pick , DOGS 3rd rd pick, EssFC 3rd rd pick 

Interesting. i'll take a run at this.

Ben Brown - Mfc 2021 Second round pick & a later pick swap. 

Picks 25,  43 and Mitch Hannan - Dogs first rounder - 15?ish (Dogs needing points ) Might need more here but general idea 

Pick 15, Brayden Preuss - Giants pick 10 (compo) 

Tmac - Bombers - Essendon pick 42 

 

Out: TMAC, Hannan, preuss, picks 25, 43, future second rounder 

In: Ben Brown, pick 10, lots of cap space. 

 

(Optimistic but worth a try)

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Patches O’houlihanI like it, I like it. Only thing i'd change is ' Ben Brown, pick 10, lots of cap space and re-signing Clarry' :) that would make me happy!

3 minutes ago, Marcus94 said:

@Patches O’houlihanI like it, I like it. Only thing i'd change is ' Ben Brown, pick 10, lots of cap space and re-signing Clarry' :) that would make me happy!

I'm pretty confident Clarry will sign on for another 2 over the off season :) don't believe we'll get a long term deal, i think we will convince him to hang around until F/A and then if we don't improve we'll lose him. 

 

44 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Interesting. i'll take a run at this.

Ben Brown - Mfc 2021 Second round pick & a later pick swap. 

Picks 25,  43 and Mitch Hannan - Dogs first rounder - 15?ish (Dogs needing points ) Might need more here but general idea 

Pick 15, Brayden Preuss - Giants pick 10 (compo) 

Tmac - Bombers - Essendon pick 42 

 

Out: TMAC, Hannan, preuss, picks 25, 43, future second rounder 

In: Ben Brown, pick 10, lots of cap space. 

 

(Optimistic but worth a try)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I think the Dogs will be looking at lots of suitors for their 1st round pick so they can exchange picks to maximize points. It’s going to be an actuary’s dream scenario 

17 hours ago, defuture15 said:

God help any opposition who pick up the ball with viney in our forward line!

Too right! Should have happened far earlier than this current speculation but then again, Goodwin has his ideas .... refusing to budge.

is today a holiday for trade week?

13 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

is today a holiday for trade week?

When Essendon's a central cog it gums up the works.

Trade period is always a snooze until the last 12 minutes

33 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Trade period is always a snooze until the last 12 minutes

i need my fix?

Higgins to the Saints!! Surely must be on a basic wage. How else could they afford their buying spree!!! Must have been paying only 90% of the cap !?!?!?!!! 

We've offered Nick Hind a 3 year deal, as has Essendon.